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New York Times Real Time Results in Ohio 12CD
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/07/us/elections/results-ohio-special-house-election-district-12.html#eln-forecast-section
Roland99
(53,342 posts)LincolnRossiter
(560 posts)Seriously.
But keeping my fingers crossed. I don't see the needle right now.
louis c
(8,652 posts)All votes now in are early votes. NY Times needs same day voting data before making a projection.
LincolnRossiter
(560 posts)That think is a heart attack meter.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If Ohio is like Florida. In Florida, Black voters seem to be mostly Election Day voters. If that hold true, the big vote margins for O'Connor in Franklin and Delaware counties were derived from voters that should be more favorable to Balderson.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Democrats in OH like to vote early.
louis c
(8,652 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)I swear I would never look at the needle again
Now I am wearing out my mouse's battery hitting the refresh button.
Where is the needle?
Stallion
(6,476 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Balderson seem to be running out of time.
JCMach1
(27,572 posts)Which is good for a Red +30 seat
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Stallion
(6,476 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)The rest of the counties in that district are red.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Balderson has a margin in two counties with vote still out, but both those counties account for around 26,000 votes out. Franklin still has 16,000 votes out and so far O'Connor is winning there 3:1, if that holds, he picks up ~10,000 more votes from there to give him a 21,000 vote margin out of that county. So Delaware county is where it will be decided, lots of votes still out there.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The counties where he has high margins have high report rates. The counties where he is losing big or is not building a sizeable margin still have a lot of votes out.
louis c
(8,652 posts)Delaware County is wealthy, educated suburban republicans. Early votes and early precincts have O'Conner ahead here. Considering the lead and the outstanding votes, any win in this county, no matter the O'Conner margin, gives the Democrat the win.
All outstanding votes should either be a wash or a slight O'Conner advantage, outside of Delaware County. that's why I come to this conclusion.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)louis c
(8,652 posts)I never, ever pick or root against Democrats.
It's just the way I am.
How about you?
grantcart
(53,061 posts)I think your 3% is going to be good
louis c
(8,652 posts)That was in O'Conner's column in early voting. Balderson has steadily won the precincts in same day voting. Now, I admit that I don't know what part of the county the precincts are coming in from, but Delaware County is the player in this game.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)and 900 green votes
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)That's not good news.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)With Licking county basically done, Balderson will need to win Delaware county by 70% to 30% the rest of the way to win. So far he has not generated a margin that big in Delaware county.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Ugh... my stomach cannot take this.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)So far there, he does not have that type of margin.
Update, I missed the big Licking county for Balderson result. But still to win Balderson has to win an amount north of 50% of the remaining vote there, so far it seems to be 50-49 there.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)If Balderson wins by 1 vote Trump will be off the leash for the rest of the mid term season claiming he pulled off a miracle.
If Balderson loses they may think that they can get Trump to shut up.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Median income. Difficult to predict but O'Connor needs 48% of the vote here to have a chance. The slow reporting is killing us.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)louis c
(8,652 posts)The new votes from Franklin County and Delaware County have increased his lead to 1,600
FBaggins
(26,757 posts)If it's almost tied there with half the precincts reporting, it's going to be hard for the remaining half not to have 5-7,000 extra red votes. Not much left in Franklin to offset.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,156 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)lapfog_1
(29,219 posts)with 7 percent yet to go in Franklin (heavy Dem)
and 48 percent to go in Delaware (near 50/50 split... but leans R)
lapfog_1
(29,219 posts)oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)Same day voting in Delaware breaking the wrong way.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Delaware killing us ...
roamer65
(36,747 posts)If O Connor loses it this time, he will win it in November with the higher blue wave turnout.
LandOfHopeAndDreams
(872 posts)There are just some districts that apparently are unwinable.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)If Balderson wins narrowly this time he'll win larger in November.
Three months of being viewed locally as the winner. That'a massive in a situation like this. Some people in the district will deny they ever voted for O'Connor in the first place.
Let's just win the damn thing. But my instinct all along has been a narrow loss. August 2018 not quite as friendly as November 2017, given Trump's uptick in approval rating by a few points
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Takket
(21,620 posts)UTUSN
(70,726 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Takket
(21,620 posts)Franklin Licking Marion
I'm 12
Stargleamer
(1,990 posts)the state that seems to always mess up
oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)Hoping we can get at least in recount territory.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)krawhitham
(4,647 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Takket
(21,620 posts)oconner is out of voted in franklin
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)There was an odd extreme bump up for Balderson about 30 mins ago. I hope that is investigated.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)Stallion
(6,476 posts)but that's it going to have to win it in Delaware County
unblock
(52,316 posts)looks likely that balderson will have the edge by around 1200 votes before the counting of the provisional votes and recounting and all that fun stuff.
hopefully we can pull it out in extra innings....
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If things in Delaware county don't get worse for O'Connor. Once again, the Greens are not our friends. I am hoping that Balderson perform weaker in Delaware county the rest of the way and provisionals give the race to O'Connor.
BTW, what are the rules for doing a provisional vote in Ohio, and which party do they favor? Also, where are most of the provisionals from, what county and by how much?
unblock
(52,316 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)will be decided by the provisional ballots.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Snellius
(6,881 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Takket
(21,620 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)FBaggins
(26,757 posts)They would have to all be blue to pull it out
I think we lost by ~2,500...
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)FBaggins
(26,757 posts)Not out of the question that the margin will be close to that. Delaware county keeps shocking.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Takket
(21,620 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)And the best part, the election is in November and he can still win then.
Legends303
(481 posts)Balderson may have the seat for 3 months and its going to most likely at this point.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)They will be spread all over the country trying to save seats instead of just one.
former9thward
(32,071 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)former9thward
(32,071 posts)Republicans $4.7 million, Democrats $3.5 million.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/live-updates/midterms/live-primary-election-results/democrats-and-republicans-spent-8-million-on-ohio-special-election/?utm_term=.f11ace8a94da
LenaBaby61
(6,977 posts)Will come up a bit short unfortunately.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)and this fellow wins by less than 1 percent..today, then how much have the pukes lost in support in the last 20 months..due to who?..
Iwasthere
(3,170 posts)Stuart G
(38,439 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Hopefully Dems study the results and find out whether vote were left on the table for the Dem. Repugh vote seemed to have maxed out.
krawhitham
(4,647 posts)3000 * 41.5% = 1245
3000 * 58.5% = 1755
1755 - 1245 =
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Limited dollars and they will have to defend more solid Repuke districts.
This is a disaster for Repukes.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)krawhitham
(4,647 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Is it close to or away from Columbus?