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Follow Ohio 12th In Real Time Including Projection (Original Post) louis c Aug 2018 OP
Wonder if Manchik got any conservative PAC money Roland99 Aug 2018 #1
I still have PTSD from that goddamn needle on election night 2016... LincolnRossiter Aug 2018 #2
They are waiting for same day votes louis c Aug 2018 #3
Gotcha. Not looking forward to it. lol... LincolnRossiter Aug 2018 #4
The early vote seem to imply problems for Balderdon. Blue_true Aug 2018 #5
No, that's not true at all for OH. LisaL Aug 2018 #6
But the early vote for O'Conner is exceeding expectations louis c Aug 2018 #7
Ok. Thanks. nt Blue_true Aug 2018 #8
Welcome to DU grantcart Aug 2018 #16
Most of the Big Republican Counties Are Already 50-70% Counted Stallion Aug 2018 #9
I noticed that too. Blue_true Aug 2018 #14
Still looking like a nail biter JCMach1 Aug 2018 #10
The blue wave is coming. joshcryer Aug 2018 #11
2nd Big Wave of Franklin County Votes Take it From 6 to 11% Stallion Aug 2018 #12
Franklin is where he has to make it big to have any chance. LisaL Aug 2018 #15
If he keep it close in Delaware county at the end, he should win. Blue_true Aug 2018 #21
Balderson seem to be running out of his most favorable vote. Blue_true Aug 2018 #13
This election will be decided in Delaware County louis c Aug 2018 #17
Still looking at 3% margin? grantcart Aug 2018 #18
Still looking to win louis c Aug 2018 #22
Almost all the Republican votes are in grantcart Aug 2018 #24
I'm afraid of Delaware County louis c Aug 2018 #25
You were right. that dump from Delaware put them ahead grantcart Aug 2018 #44
Damn Balderson up by 1,000 grantcart Aug 2018 #19
Balderson takes the lead in Deleware County... Adrahil Aug 2018 #20
O'Connor appears to be headed to a 22,000 vote margin out of Franklin county. Blue_true Aug 2018 #28
Looking better Connors back on top grantcart Aug 2018 #23
Lots of votes out in Delaware County.... Adrahil Aug 2018 #26
Balderson will need to win that by 70% to 30% to stand a chance. Blue_true Aug 2018 #30
But that isn't helping Balderson grantcart Aug 2018 #34
I hope you are right! I want this one SO badly! NT Adrahil Aug 2018 #40
I imagine there are some Republican Congressmen that are hoping Balderson loses grantcart Aug 2018 #41
now plus 1400 grantcart Aug 2018 #29
Delaware county is almost all white, educated and $100,000 beachbum bob Aug 2018 #27
basically tied in Delaware grantcart Aug 2018 #32
He's been doing better in Delaware County in the most recent 30 precincts louis c Aug 2018 #33
The problem is that Delaware is much like Licking... only larger FBaggins Aug 2018 #37
Connors Still at 48.7 in Deleware County Stallion Aug 2018 #35
Thanks for posting real time results! nt SWBTATTReg Aug 2018 #31
ouch down to 155 vote difference grantcart Aug 2018 #39
O'Connor by 1338 lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #36
crap - now O'connor leads by 155 votes - n/t lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #38
Down 1000 oswaldactedalone Aug 2018 #42
Shit Balderson now up by over 1000 votes with Delaware at 66% mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #43
This one will be repeated in November. roamer65 Aug 2018 #45
There Should Have Been Blue Wave Turnout Tonight LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #58
That's not the way it works Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #62
Very possible that we lose this by the margin of the damn Green votes. grantcart Aug 2018 #46
will people ever learn? Takket Aug 2018 #48
Crap, the Repuke just flipped ahead. UTUSN Aug 2018 #50
back on top lol grantcart Aug 2018 #59
my 3 favorite counties... Takket Aug 2018 #47
Forget it, Jake, it's Ohio Stargleamer Aug 2018 #49
Balderson looking good at the moment. oswaldactedalone Aug 2018 #51
recount .5%? grantcart Aug 2018 #56
Up 201 votes krawhitham Aug 2018 #52
Back on top grantcart Aug 2018 #53
delaware is holding count back to "get the count right" Takket Aug 2018 #54
Something suspicious about the votes coming in from Delaware honest.abe Aug 2018 #60
See, this is some bullshit ... it seems like red counties are always doing some shit like this uponit7771 Aug 2018 #73
99% of Frankin County-Connors take Small Lead Stallion Aug 2018 #55
we're back in the lead! but balderson will pick up another 1400 or so with the rest of delaware co. unblock Aug 2018 #57
I am guessing Balderson will have around a 750 vote lead. Blue_true Aug 2018 #64
don't know. grew up in columbus but left before i could vote. unblock Aug 2018 #66
down by 700 grantcart Aug 2018 #65
Does anyone know how provisionals break out your party and where the lion share are? nt Blue_true Aug 2018 #72
Will someone please stop me from hitting refresh all the time? nt Snellius Aug 2018 #61
step away, release the mouse, no no no go back hit it again, faster. grantcart Aug 2018 #68
are absentees already included in this count? Takket Aug 2018 #63
Kornacki just said that we should expect about 3,000 provisionals which lean Democratic. grantcart Aug 2018 #67
Not enough FBaggins Aug 2018 #70
I wouldn't be shocked if the KGOP is paying the green party uponit7771 Aug 2018 #71
It does look like they'll get 1,200 votes FBaggins Aug 2018 #74
Isan't this like the third time they have been separated by 741 votes? grantcart Aug 2018 #69
more blue voters will be out in november. O'conner will flip this seat then Takket Aug 2018 #75
Yep, considering how red the district is, it's a great result. LisaL Aug 2018 #76
O'connor can still run towards november Legends303 Aug 2018 #77
Hes already on the ballot grantcart Aug 2018 #78
Also, in November the Reps won't be able to pour in the same amount of support and money Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #83
The same fact applies for the Democrats. former9thward Aug 2018 #91
GOP groups outspent their Democratic counterparts in the race by a ratio of nearly 5 to 1 Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #92
Not what the Washington Post says. former9thward Aug 2018 #93
Looks like O'Connor .... LenaBaby61 Aug 2018 #79
Please think about this one fact............If Dump won by 36 percent in 2016, Stuart G Aug 2018 #80
So if there are 3000 provisional, and the margin is about 2000, still doable right? Iwasthere Aug 2018 #81
Yes, if the provisionals are overwhelming for O'Connor..it is doable..not likely but possible Stuart G Aug 2018 #82
Would need to pretty much run the table. Blue_true Aug 2018 #86
Not historically, Dems are +17 in provisional so he would put up 510 votes krawhitham Aug 2018 #87
David Jolly on MSNBC is saying the Repuke party will have to throw some overboard for November. roamer65 Aug 2018 #84
This is a very solid republican district. At least it's used to be. LisaL Aug 2018 #85
we lost in 2016 by 36.71% krawhitham Aug 2018 #88
Has anyone said where the 4% left in Delaware county is? Blue_true Aug 2018 #89
Its in, it didn't help krawhitham Aug 2018 #90

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
2. I still have PTSD from that goddamn needle on election night 2016...
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:11 PM
Aug 2018

Seriously.

But keeping my fingers crossed. I don't see the needle right now.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
3. They are waiting for same day votes
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:15 PM
Aug 2018

All votes now in are early votes. NY Times needs same day voting data before making a projection.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. The early vote seem to imply problems for Balderdon.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:37 PM
Aug 2018

If Ohio is like Florida. In Florida, Black voters seem to be mostly Election Day voters. If that hold true, the big vote margins for O'Connor in Franklin and Delaware counties were derived from voters that should be more favorable to Balderson.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
16. Welcome to DU
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:08 PM
Aug 2018

I swear I would never look at the needle again


Now I am wearing out my mouse's battery hitting the refresh button.



Where is the needle?

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
15. Franklin is where he has to make it big to have any chance.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:56 PM
Aug 2018

The rest of the counties in that district are red.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. If he keep it close in Delaware county at the end, he should win.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:21 PM
Aug 2018

Balderson has a margin in two counties with vote still out, but both those counties account for around 26,000 votes out. Franklin still has 16,000 votes out and so far O'Connor is winning there 3:1, if that holds, he picks up ~10,000 more votes from there to give him a 21,000 vote margin out of that county. So Delaware county is where it will be decided, lots of votes still out there.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. Balderson seem to be running out of his most favorable vote.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:54 PM
Aug 2018

The counties where he has high margins have high report rates. The counties where he is losing big or is not building a sizeable margin still have a lot of votes out.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
17. This election will be decided in Delaware County
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:11 PM
Aug 2018

Delaware County is wealthy, educated suburban republicans. Early votes and early precincts have O'Conner ahead here. Considering the lead and the outstanding votes, any win in this county, no matter the O'Conner margin, gives the Democrat the win.

All outstanding votes should either be a wash or a slight O'Conner advantage, outside of Delaware County. that's why I come to this conclusion.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
22. Still looking to win
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:23 PM
Aug 2018

I never, ever pick or root against Democrats.

It's just the way I am.

How about you?

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
25. I'm afraid of Delaware County
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:30 PM
Aug 2018

That was in O'Conner's column in early voting. Balderson has steadily won the precincts in same day voting. Now, I admit that I don't know what part of the county the precincts are coming in from, but Delaware County is the player in this game.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. O'Connor appears to be headed to a 22,000 vote margin out of Franklin county.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:35 PM
Aug 2018

With Licking county basically done, Balderson will need to win Delaware county by 70% to 30% the rest of the way to win. So far he has not generated a margin that big in Delaware county.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
30. Balderson will need to win that by 70% to 30% to stand a chance.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:36 PM
Aug 2018

So far there, he does not have that type of margin.

Update, I missed the big Licking county for Balderson result. But still to win Balderson has to win an amount north of 50% of the remaining vote there, so far it seems to be 50-49 there.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
41. I imagine there are some Republican Congressmen that are hoping Balderson loses
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:47 PM
Aug 2018

If Balderson wins by 1 vote Trump will be off the leash for the rest of the mid term season claiming he pulled off a miracle.

If Balderson loses they may think that they can get Trump to shut up.
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
27. Delaware county is almost all white, educated and $100,000
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:34 PM
Aug 2018

Median income. Difficult to predict but O'Connor needs 48% of the vote here to have a chance. The slow reporting is killing us.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
33. He's been doing better in Delaware County in the most recent 30 precincts
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:38 PM
Aug 2018

The new votes from Franklin County and Delaware County have increased his lead to 1,600

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
37. The problem is that Delaware is much like Licking... only larger
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:41 PM
Aug 2018

If it's almost tied there with half the precincts reporting, it's going to be hard for the remaining half not to have 5-7,000 extra red votes. Not much left in Franklin to offset.

lapfog_1

(29,219 posts)
36. O'Connor by 1338
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:41 PM
Aug 2018

with 7 percent yet to go in Franklin (heavy Dem)
and 48 percent to go in Delaware (near 50/50 split... but leans R)

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
45. This one will be repeated in November.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:53 PM
Aug 2018

If O’ Connor loses it this time, he will win it in November with the higher blue wave turnout.

 
58. There Should Have Been Blue Wave Turnout Tonight
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:00 PM
Aug 2018

There are just some districts that apparently are unwinable.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
62. That's not the way it works
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:02 PM
Aug 2018

If Balderson wins narrowly this time he'll win larger in November.

Three months of being viewed locally as the winner. That'a massive in a situation like this. Some people in the district will deny they ever voted for O'Connor in the first place.

Let's just win the damn thing. But my instinct all along has been a narrow loss. August 2018 not quite as friendly as November 2017, given Trump's uptick in approval rating by a few points

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
60. Something suspicious about the votes coming in from Delaware
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:00 PM
Aug 2018

There was an odd extreme bump up for Balderson about 30 mins ago. I hope that is investigated.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
55. 99% of Frankin County-Connors take Small Lead
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:57 PM
Aug 2018

but that's it going to have to win it in Delaware County

unblock

(52,316 posts)
57. we're back in the lead! but balderson will pick up another 1400 or so with the rest of delaware co.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:59 PM
Aug 2018

looks likely that balderson will have the edge by around 1200 votes before the counting of the provisional votes and recounting and all that fun stuff.

hopefully we can pull it out in extra innings....

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
64. I am guessing Balderson will have around a 750 vote lead.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:05 PM
Aug 2018

If things in Delaware county don't get worse for O'Connor. Once again, the Greens are not our friends. I am hoping that Balderson perform weaker in Delaware county the rest of the way and provisionals give the race to O'Connor.

BTW, what are the rules for doing a provisional vote in Ohio, and which party do they favor? Also, where are most of the provisionals from, what county and by how much?

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
74. It does look like they'll get 1,200 votes
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:16 PM
Aug 2018

Not out of the question that the margin will be close to that. Delaware county keeps shocking.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
76. Yep, considering how red the district is, it's a great result.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:22 PM
Aug 2018

And the best part, the election is in November and he can still win then.

 

Legends303

(481 posts)
77. O'connor can still run towards november
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:23 PM
Aug 2018

Balderson may have the seat for 3 months and its going to most likely at this point.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
83. Also, in November the Reps won't be able to pour in the same amount of support and money
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:33 PM
Aug 2018

They will be spread all over the country trying to save seats instead of just one.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
80. Please think about this one fact............If Dump won by 36 percent in 2016,
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:27 PM
Aug 2018

and this fellow wins by less than 1 percent..today, then how much have the pukes lost in support in the last 20 months..due to who?..

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
86. Would need to pretty much run the table.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:40 PM
Aug 2018

Hopefully Dems study the results and find out whether vote were left on the table for the Dem. Repugh vote seemed to have maxed out.

krawhitham

(4,647 posts)
87. Not historically, Dems are +17 in provisional so he would put up 510 votes
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:41 PM
Aug 2018



3000 * 41.5% = 1245
3000 * 58.5% = 1755

1755 - 1245 =

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
84. David Jolly on MSNBC is saying the Repuke party will have to throw some overboard for November.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:36 PM
Aug 2018

Limited dollars and they will have to defend more solid Repuke districts.



This is a disaster for Repukes.

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