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The Ohio Green Party just retweeted this (Original Post) Maven Aug 2018 OP
The green party Matthew28 Aug 2018 #1
The Green party is a wing of the Republican party Generic Brad Aug 2018 #6
Worse. They're sabotaging themselves. nt Snellius Aug 2018 #9
Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #26
Is that why they're celebrating that the Democrat lost? John Fante Aug 2018 #34
Who is the tweeter? What is the Straw Poll Report? How are the two tweets...anti-Democrat? Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #41
According to their Twitter profile: OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #48
No one can not make up the election results so if the Green Party retweeted an accurate report Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #51
The tweet is pro-Republican...exclamation point for Balderson gaining - happy about it. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #60
You think it's cool to retweet a GOPer "pollster", replete with GOPer excitement? OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #61
The Green Party retweeted a GOP tweet celebrating the loss of the more progressive candidate. pnwmom Aug 2018 #67
Same bleeping party that gave us George W Bush instead of Al Gore YessirAtsaFact Aug 2018 #39
R leads by 1767...and Green total is 1127... Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #45
Do you really mean to suggest that the Democratic party is part of a two party dictatorship? TomSlick Aug 2018 #49
You see any other Parties in office anywhere in America? What would you call it...always interested Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #57
A dictatorship has one leader. A dictator. If there are two parties, that's not a dictatorship. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #63
Sure. TomSlick Aug 2018 #65
Thanks for the list. Vast majority school councillors, neighbourhood councils, etc, not that there Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #69
The Green Party is most similar to a dictatorship. OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #68
Lot of infiltrators around up to no good, as one may have noticed. Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #71
Yeah, okay. OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #73
And as to then "select" states, can you imagine a Green open primary in Georgia,...or at all. Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #74
Why the hell not? OilemFirchen Aug 2018 #78
Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #59
I am being a little too far leftist, I assume, for some, for using a little literary license?! Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #72
It's pretty difficult to argue BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #2
Intentionally? Wouldn't any third party or fourth party etc., potentially swing a very close race... Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #43
Most 'third' parties naturally draw more from one major party or the other. Chemisse Aug 2018 #64
I do not beleive that every vote for the Green Party takes one away from the Dem party. OhioBlue Aug 2018 #79
Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #66
There is some evidence of intent to help Russia - and therefore the GOP. TomSlick Aug 2018 #84
Their votes are the difference right now, literally between winning and losing. ffr Aug 2018 #3
Stein did go talk to Putin in Russia. LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #4
Just what I was going to say-Stein and Russia thank them demtenjeep Aug 2018 #8
I often wonder where the money came from for Nader and that other jerk Stein... Stuart G Aug 2018 #5
I don't DFW Aug 2018 #7
+1 dalton99a Aug 2018 #11
We are being ratfcked by world-class experts and their tools nt Hekate Aug 2018 #13
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2018 #17
Fucking greens RatFuckers just luv being ruled Cha Aug 2018 #10
Fucking assholes RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #12
And, I wish they'd do it fast. nt jrthin Aug 2018 #54
The Green Party has gotten 1, 037 votes tonight. Makes me sick octoberlib Aug 2018 #14
+1 dalton99a Aug 2018 #16
Balderson is ahead by more than the Green Party's vote total. And the type of people that show up... PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #46
Agree. They would have stayed home because no Democrat is gonna octoberlib Aug 2018 #50
Somebody needs to track their funding. Tatiana Aug 2018 #15
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2018 #18
+1, and expose it for the light of day. nt R B Garr Aug 2018 #20
+1 Maven Aug 2018 #21
Shameful, no excuses. They should know how they are R B Garr Aug 2018 #19
They're not, as you say, "being used." jmowreader Aug 2018 #40
The Green Party is gonna get a big pay day from Putin Botany Aug 2018 #22
We may have to accept that like Putin took over the GOP, he took over the Greens, too. Tatiana Aug 2018 #24
Or trump. notdarkyet Aug 2018 #29
What is green about the Green Party in the USA? The color of money? Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #23
I thought that being green was about nature and ecology Botany Aug 2018 #28
The Green Party: Fucking America Sideways Since 2000 BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #25
+++ pretty much. JHan Aug 2018 #52
Green Party voters are just fake Republicans. Lonestarblue Aug 2018 #27
From Igor Bobic (HuffPo) oberliner Aug 2018 #30
The Green party is what they are, and they should be banned from DU still_one Aug 2018 #31
+1 Lisa0825 Aug 2018 #33
+1 dalton99a Aug 2018 #36
+1 Sparkly Aug 2018 #75
Evil SOBs!!!! workinclasszero Aug 2018 #32
If we don;t get it tonight, we have a 2nd chance to take the seat in November.... iluvtennis Aug 2018 #35
Which is basic proof that the GPUSA isn't interested in promoting viable candidates MrScorpio Aug 2018 #37
Exactly dalton99a Aug 2018 #42
Uhm - I need more context. Not familair with "the Straw Roll Report" - so went to the twitter page. salin Aug 2018 #38
Why don't they have a "Trump" party on the ballot to siphon off republican votes? W T F Aug 2018 #44
Fuck anyone MFM008 Aug 2018 #47
Eat shit, you assholes. DinahMoeHum Aug 2018 #53
That's all they do dalton99a Aug 2018 #58
Bastards uponit7771 Aug 2018 #55
Miserable clueless bastards Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #56
The green party can go fuck themselves!!!! Initech Aug 2018 #62
Greens are Republicans in denial. Stein with Putin is proof. I say call them out and consider them keopeli Aug 2018 #70
+1. People who help Republicans win elections are not our friends. dalton99a Aug 2018 #76
they aren't in denial. they are just frauds, liars etc. JI7 Aug 2018 #81
A great take: Ponietz Aug 2018 #77
I do not find this in their twitter feed. OhioBlue Aug 2018 #80
LOL. Looks like they deleted it. Maven Aug 2018 #83
Fuck the Greens snort Aug 2018 #82

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
6. The Green party is a wing of the Republican party
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:56 PM
Aug 2018

Just like Antifa is a wing of the Alt-Right. They are all funded by the same pricks and support the same goals from different directions.

Response to Generic Brad (Reply #6)

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
34. Is that why they're celebrating that the Democrat lost?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:32 PM
Aug 2018

It's plainly obvious they prefer seeing Republicans win.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
41. Who is the tweeter? What is the Straw Poll Report? How are the two tweets...anti-Democrat?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:38 PM
Aug 2018

Not that I would change anyone's minds on the threads that the Green Party are clearly and obviously the spawn of Satan.

Sentence first, verdict later.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
48. According to their Twitter profile:
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:53 PM
Aug 2018
The Straw Poll Report is dedicated to giving analysis on elections, demographics, conventions, etc, & supporting @GOP candidates from local to federal races!


But that's utterly irrelevant, if, as per the OP, the Green Party retweeted these tweets.

Get it?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
51. No one can not make up the election results so if the Green Party retweeted an accurate report
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:58 PM
Aug 2018

so what?

Also...is it an official Green Party tweet...authorized by who?

Kind of all rather all benign to hang your hangman hats on.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
60. The tweet is pro-Republican...exclamation point for Balderson gaining - happy about it.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:09 PM
Aug 2018

No doubt about that.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
61. You think it's cool to retweet a GOPer "pollster", replete with GOPer excitement?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:09 PM
Aug 2018

Do you support retweeting "Sadly @Troy_Balderson has lost his lead over @dannyoconnor1, still close & lots of results out!"?

BTW, I searched a bit and didn't find a retweet from the Ohio Green Party. Rather, I found it retweeted by Manchik himself, about two hours ago. I have no idea how to post a retweet, if it's even possible. Here's his Twitter page:

https://twitter.com/Joe_Manchik

If you think the retweet is cool, perhaps you can add to the half dozen or so congratulatory responses.

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
67. The Green Party retweeted a GOP tweet celebrating the loss of the more progressive candidate.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:26 PM
Aug 2018

But what would anyone expect, after the backing Jill Stein got from pro-GOP Vlad Putin?

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
39. Same bleeping party that gave us George W Bush instead of Al Gore
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:37 PM
Aug 2018

Join with the democrats and move the party to the left.

Or just fuck off.

Stop sabotaging democrats.

TomSlick

(11,108 posts)
49. Do you really mean to suggest that the Democratic party is part of a two party dictatorship?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:56 PM
Aug 2018

Do you really mean to suggest that the Democratic party is shutting out anyone?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
57. You see any other Parties in office anywhere in America? What would you call it...always interested
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:01 PM
Aug 2018

in accurate labelling of reality.

And yes is the answer to only one of your kind questions.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
63. A dictatorship has one leader. A dictator. If there are two parties, that's not a dictatorship.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:14 PM
Aug 2018

And it's not their fault. It is a problem, but it evolved. Great Britain has a similar problem, and it is a problem.

You can't expect either party to urge their voters to vote for a third party. Life doesn't work that way. Maybe there are two parties because there are mainly two sides to political theory in this country. If a third party would carve out a third way, it would gain momentum. It could be human nature....you go this way or that way, and there's a spectrum in each.

But for a third party to be happy about the Democratic Party losing the lead says that the third party is on the Republican spectrum. That goes w/o saying. It has nothing to do with there being only two parties, since of course, the Republican Party is one of those two.

TomSlick

(11,108 posts)
65. Sure.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:16 PM
Aug 2018

The Green Party claims to hold at least 156 public offices in America.

[link:http://www.gp.org/officeholders|

I would point out that if the Green Party holds 156 public offices, that is 156 that are not held by Democrats.

I am a Democrat - not a Green. I do not accuse the Democrats of being involved in any dictatorship. If I believed Democrats were involved in any dictatorship, I would not be a Democrat.

The Greens have cost another Democrat an election. It was not enough that the Greens caused Trump to be President. They continue to ensure that Republicans are elected. What the Greens do better than anything is elect Republicans. If you do something again and again with the same result, at some point it becomes apparent that the result is the intent.

This site supports Democrats - not Greens.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
69. Thanks for the list. Vast majority school councillors, neighbourhood councils, etc, not that there
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:52 PM
Aug 2018

is anything wrong with that. And almost half of all in California....good to see!

I support all Democrats, of course, but also feel I have room in my imagination to support Green policies, especially for me on the environment...including nationalization of oil and gas resources...for national security reasons.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
68. The Green Party is most similar to a dictatorship.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:31 PM
Aug 2018

All closed primaries, in select states only, and the candidates require "formal recognition" by the party to be a nominee.

Even the fucking Republican party is more democratic than that.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
74. And as to then "select" states, can you imagine a Green open primary in Georgia,...or at all.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:07 AM
Aug 2018

And another thing is any particular political party gets to make its own rules, 100% their constitutional right, within the law, and does not have to follow the any of the rules of the Ruling Duo...and accident of the first amendment.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
78. Why the hell not?
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:24 AM
Aug 2018

Are you suggesting that the Green Party, which hectored the Democratic Party because they wouldn't advocate for impossible legislation, doesn't see the benefit in holding primaries everywhere? That the same party which harassed the Democrats for, in some cases, holding closed primaries, doesn't see the benefit of open primaries for themselves?

I don't begrudge them their right to do as they please. They can even be openly, dramatically hypocritical. Doesn't negate that they're one of the most authoritarian political parties in the U.S.

And you have the audacity to call the other parties "dictatorships"?

It's to

Response to Post removed (Reply #26)

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
2. It's pretty difficult to argue
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:49 PM
Aug 2018

that they aren't helping the RWs over and over and over in most elections for years.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
43. Intentionally? Wouldn't any third party or fourth party etc., potentially swing a very close race...
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:40 PM
Aug 2018

even a single vote could do it...are these Parties all traitors and pro-Republican...the Green Party platform is more left wing in many way, i.e.

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
64. Most 'third' parties naturally draw more from one major party or the other.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:15 PM
Aug 2018

Every vote for the Green Party takes one away from the Democratic Party. So to push a Green Party is to help Republicans win office.

Whether that is intentional or not is anybody's guess. But the end result is the same - GOP wins.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
79. I do not beleive that every vote for the Green Party takes one away from the Dem party.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:27 AM
Aug 2018

Some of the Green Party voters may not be otherwise engaged in politics.

The disappointment to me in the 12th was that we didn't have a bigger Dem turnout.

Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #43)

TomSlick

(11,108 posts)
84. There is some evidence of intent to help Russia - and therefore the GOP.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 08:36 PM
Aug 2018

[link:?auto=compress%2Cformat&q=90&fit=crop&w=1440&h=720|

If you do the same thing over and over, at some point it becomes clear such was the intent.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
3. Their votes are the difference right now, literally between winning and losing.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:51 PM
Aug 2018

They're sucking the life out of the party.

Stuart G

(38,441 posts)
5. I often wonder where the money came from for Nader and that other jerk Stein...
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:55 PM
Aug 2018

I often suspect that the money was somehow laundered to look like it was from certain individuals, but in reality it came from secret Republican sources. These sources worked with fake organizations and people to look like they were real, but the reality it was from very rich Republicans who set up the scheme in the first place....If it was done carefully with a whole lot of effort, who would really know where the money came from?

...If it were moved around and Stein lost, as did Nader..who would do the research to check out the real sources of the money? Stein and

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
14. The Green Party has gotten 1, 037 votes tonight. Makes me sick
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:06 PM
Aug 2018



If Danny O'Connor (D) had Joe Manchick (G)'s 1,037 votes, it might be a different story right now. #OH12

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
46. Balderson is ahead by more than the Green Party's vote total. And the type of people that show up...
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:48 PM
Aug 2018

Last edited Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:54 AM - Edit history (1)

in a special election just to vote for someone they know will be losing are not the type to vote for
either of the other 2 candidates.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
50. Agree. They would have stayed home because no Democrat is gonna
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:58 PM
Aug 2018

make getting rid of chemtrails part of their platform.

R B Garr

(16,975 posts)
19. Shameful, no excuses. They should know how they are
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:18 PM
Aug 2018

being used. We’ve already seen that many are Republicans, though.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
40. They're not, as you say, "being used."
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:37 PM
Aug 2018

They are doing exactly what they're for - getting Republicans elected by splitting the Democratic vote.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
24. We may have to accept that like Putin took over the GOP, he took over the Greens, too.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:24 PM
Aug 2018

And expose the information to the voting public.

It has to be made clear that a vote for a Green candidate is a vote for Vladimir Putin and his American GOP.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
28. I thought that being green was about nature and ecology
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:27 PM
Aug 2018

somethings that the GOP will never support and the Green party helps to keep
the GOP in power

JHan

(10,173 posts)
52. +++ pretty much.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:00 PM
Aug 2018

So many years they've been around and still badly managed, still blaming everyone else for their failures, and lazy too. All they do is be election spoilers and engage in infantile glee whenever a Democrat loses.

Lonestarblue

(10,063 posts)
27. Green Party voters are just fake Republicans.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:27 PM
Aug 2018

They are supposedly for the environment, yet they consistently run in close elections that cost Democrats the vote. Democrats are the only ones who truly care about the environment; if voters supporting the Green Party truly cared about things like climate change, they would vote for Democrats instead of throwing away their votes for nothing. And they need to get over the idea of it being a protest vote. No one cares. I am so disgusted with this group.

iluvtennis

(19,871 posts)
35. If we don;t get it tonight, we have a 2nd chance to take the seat in November....
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:33 PM
Aug 2018

...a bit more out reach to do some more knocking on doors and we have a chance to flip this blue.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
37. Which is basic proof that the GPUSA isn't interested in promoting viable candidates
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:36 PM
Aug 2018

They're only interested in ratfucking the Democratic Party.

Putin's money is well spent.

salin

(48,955 posts)
38. Uhm - I need more context. Not familair with "the Straw Roll Report" - so went to the twitter page.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:36 PM
Aug 2018

Says it is supporting GOP. Without context, I don't see anything Green Party about this.

If there is a connection, between this tweeter and the Green Party - Please give DU readers that context? Otherwise, to those of us who are not familiar with the twitterer, it looks like a GOP friendly posting crap that GOP friendly folks tend to do. With the context - (depending on what it is) - it could be a clear way of discrediting a fake progressive mouthpiece.

Sometimes adding a sentence or two connecting the claim (Green - is celebrating a potential loss by O'Connor/cheering on a Trumpite) to how this tweet represents the Green Party - (as reading it's twitter profile - it is absent - pro GOP) would be a few minutes (in composing the sentences connecting the Green Party - to this twitter feed) well spent. Would convince many people, who like me are unfamiliar with this twitter feed, that the two are directly connected - as this twitterer specifically states in his/her profile it is pro GOP.

Otherwise when looking at the direct twitter profile it looks like pro GOP person, is pro GOP. Help those of us not familiar with 'The Straw Poll' make the connection to the Green Party.

Edited to add: in the time I took to post this - more posts gave me leads to follow up - to make the connection.

keopeli

(3,524 posts)
70. Greens are Republicans in denial. Stein with Putin is proof. I say call them out and consider them
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:52 PM
Aug 2018

like the Brown Shirts. They are idealists who will lose, they know they will lose, and they are willing to bring the rest of the country down with them. They hate Dems far more than they dislike Republicans, though they may feign denial, pretending that their concern for the environment is justification for abusing their country.

Consider this: you will know a tree by its fruit. The fruit of the Green Party is W., it is Trump, it is Putin. There is no way to deny this. The fruit of the Green Party tree is Republicans. As such, I agree that Green Party supporters should not be allowed to post on DU. They can find their own message board of like-minded people, like Breitbart and Infowars.

Also, just because this election's margin of victory may have exceeded the Green Party vote total does not negate the fact that a Green Party vote is a vote for the Republicuns.

Greens are spoilers for Republicuns, funded by Republicuns and are anti-Democrats. They do not deserve a voice on DU.

I've said my peace.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
80. I do not find this in their twitter feed.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:33 AM
Aug 2018

Also, just because someone with posting ability for the account retweeted something with an exclamation point doesn't mean they are celebrating the election results. They may have just thought they were sharing updates of election results. I cannot see the Green Party favoring the Republican over the Dem unless it is on a personal level.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
83. LOL. Looks like they deleted it.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 08:47 AM
Aug 2018

One of our own lurkers perhaps?

P.S. The account they retweeted has an elephant in its avatar and states in its bio that it is dedicated to helping GOP candidates get elected. Their motto is “politics from a Republican perspective”. It is 100% clear that the tweet was celebrating Balderson taking the lead.

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