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According to Trump, America is now in great shape fantastic shape unbelievable shape! And we know that his supporters believe every word he says.
So why is it that at rally after rally, all we see are people who are angry to the point of acting like rabid dogs? Why arent these folks busy having their kitchens renovated, out buying a new car, or off on an expensive vacation the things they were promised as a result of Trumps massive tax cuts? Instead of enjoying the prosperity Trump keeps bragging about having delivered, those who are allegedly the recipients of that prosperity are attending rallies in a mood that can only be described as pissed-off to the max.
The truth is there is no joy in Trumpville and it shows. In fact, it is blatantly obvious.
These rally attendees are not happy people. These are not people who are overjoyed with being free of the yoke of liberal tyranny that they allegedly suffered under for eight years under Obama. These are not people who believe theyre winning anything, because their own lives are no different than they were before all that winning started in fact, many of them are worse off.
Despite the bubble most Trumpsters wrap themselves in, they are still living in the real world and its a world where there is no better and cheaper medical coverage for all. There are no huge raises and bonuses from their employers flowing from their massive corporate tax breaks. The funds for the border wall are going to come out of their pockets, not Mexicos. For many, their jobs are in jeopardy, or have already been lost due to Trumps trade war. They see businesses closing, farms in trouble, and the price of goods rising, along with the cost of their healthcare premiums and the prescription drugs they need to survive.
Trumpsters are not enjoying the spoils of their victory simply because there are none at least not for them. Thats what makes them angry. Thats what keeps them riled-up and ready to boil over. After all the promises of making America great again, the poor are poorer, the rich are richer and the middle-class worker is still living in the same house, working in the same job for the same wage, still struggling to pay the same bills they couldnt afford before a situation that has no resemblance to winning to the point of being tired of all of their success.
"What you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening," Trump said. "Don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news." Trying to convince his rally rabble to ignore the media is not just for the obvious purpose i.e. keeping them ignorant of the facts emanating from Muellers investigation but for the purpose of keeping them ill-informed about how his policies are enriching the already-wealthy while leaving the middle-class twisting in the wind.
What we are seeing at Trumps rallies is people who are growing increasingly frustrated. They see illegals being deported, but their own lives arent any better for it. They feel free to display their racism and bigotry, but doing so hasnt improved their lives one iota. They see children taken from their parents and locked in cages, but that policy has not led to any appreciable difference in their own lives.
One fact remains in all of this, and its the fact that people who are promised things that are never delivered eventually ask the obvious question about the politicians who want their support: Whats in it for me?
People who believe theyre winning are smug in victory. They laugh-off the barbs of those they see as the losers, instead of being triggered to violence by them. People who believe theyre winning are content with their victory they dont show up at rallies full of vitriol, lashing out at everyone and anyone who bursts their bubble by pointing out the facts and the truth.
We have all hoped for that one incident, that one policy, that one tweet that will wake the Trumpsters out of their self-imposed ignorance. We have waited patiently for that elusive straw that will finally break the camels back.
But there is no one straw. There is no one incident that will prove to be the turning point. There is no one anything that will lead Trumpsters to abandon their Dear Leader en masse.
I believe the Trumpsters are waking up to the truth ever-so-slowly but nonetheless inevitably. It wont be a landslide it will be a slow chipping away of support as Trumps middle-class base is beginning to realize theyve been had, as it finally dawns on them that everything they were promised has been reneged on, forgotten, or simply turned around to be to the benefit of the rich while they are left with crumbs.
Patience, my friends patience. The vitriol the Trumpsters are exhibiting is a sure sign that they dont believe theyre winning anything. It is a sign of discontent and dissatisfaction with the way things are going. It is a recognition that the promise of making America great again is just a slogan on a hat, and has nothing to do with actually making things better for the middle-class workers who put Trump in office in the first place.
Trumpsters are not the smartest people on the planet. They are easily manipulated, and easily-led. But they are also self-serving, and ultimately more interested in what they stand to gain as opposed to what their political foes stand to lose. And as things stand now, they are not gaining anything.
Every day Trump remains in office in another day that one or a dozen, or a hundred Trumpsters come to the obvious conclusion: Supporting Trump makes America great again for the wealthy, for the CEOs earning multi-million-dollar salaries, for the private-jet-and-yacht-owners, for the corrupt cronies of their Dear Leader who are reaping the benefits that the middle-class were promised, but that never materialized.
Trumps loss of his base will not be an avalanche it will be the slow-and-steady drip, drip, drip of erosion.
The Republicans counted on the notion that the easily-led could be easily distracted. They assured themselves that railing against NFL athletes taking a knee would make the Trumpsters forget that 80% of their promised tax relief went to the wealthy. They convinced themselves that middle-class Trump supporters would look the other way while everything they were promised never came to fruition.
What they didnt take into account is that the average Trumpster is not as concerned with who takes a knee as they are with how they themselves are supposed to pay their bills. What they didnt understand is that the middle-class Trump supporter is not as interested in who gets deported as they are with how they can afford to send their own kids to college. What they didnt bother considering is that your run-of-the-mill Trump supporter doesnt give a fuck about the fake news as much as they care about what they were promised turning out to be fake promises.
Give it time give it space. Reality is setting in among the brain-dead. We just have to wait it out.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,642 posts)And saying it with your normal eloquence too, I might add.
Thank you!
RockRaven
(14,974 posts)I must borrow a relevant paragraph from George Orwell in 1984, I think:
"The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp."
So long as there is a demagogue willing to harness and direct their predilection to slobberingly hate, they will do so. They may cease to be Trumpists specifically, but that only means they find themselves at war with Eastasia instead of Eurasia. It does not mean they have woken up.
Dubya did his darndest to create that very same, cult-like atmosphere - but Cheeto's putting him to shame.
Not that it's hard, with today's radicalized Republican electorate.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)And there's a lot of yelping going on.
Hekate
(90,719 posts)Gothmog
(145,345 posts)Meadowoak
(5,551 posts)Ples lives get worse.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)No one cares about their own life like a Republican. Whether anyone else is worse off or better off is of no interest to them.
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)They really think the rules don't apply to them, and have no concern for the consequences of what they scream about. That's why the idiot president implemented the no-tolerance policy, without even the first thought of the ramifications of doing it. Something every other president including Reagan and w had the common sense to know. But they are so far gone now, they just have no clue about the ramifications of Everything they get behind.
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oasis
(49,393 posts)Woodycall
(259 posts)This is the most insightful, profound and comprehensive statement about the right-wing that I have read this year, and maybe ever. Now please don't tell me to fuck-off and go back to free republic (and delete my post) just because I stood up for Ed Schultz after he died, like the last time I posted here. This is a test.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)And right on point. Thank you!
scardycat
(169 posts)they go to these rallies just to show how much they hate Democrats more than living their lives in peace. Hateful people
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Well put. Agreed.
trump voters are slowly learning, the hard way, what they voted for.
'This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it' - Emerson
emanymton69
(124 posts).
Clear, concise, and articulate. You use the English language with precision and passion.
Thank you and keep up the good work!
EmaNymton
DFW
(54,414 posts)There is a reason the RNC and Fox pay guys like Frank Luntz et al millions every year.
It is their job, and they are very good at it, to convince the Trumpanzees that the reason their lives are not improving is NOT because Trumpence lied to them. Oh, no, that couldn't possibly be the case. Why not? For the simple reason that no one wants to admit they've bee had by an obvious con man. They are angry, but not mature enough to be angry with themselves. It is SOOOO much easier when it's someone else's fault.
So, the only thing left to do is to determine whose fault it is, because as long as the Republicans are in power, things will NOT improve for these people. You'd think they would have figured this out after Cheneybush, but like I said, Frank Luntz doesn't get paid his millions for nothing.
No one likes searching for culpable parties in a mirror. It feels so much better searching elsewhere. So, let's see. Who's out there? Libbruls and Hillary, certainly, but they are nearing the end of their shelf life by now. Never fear, though! Help is on the way! Athletes taking a knee at sports events! Two year old children from Honduras! Media! THERE you go! Problem solved for another election cycle. For without the rage of their minions, the Republicans' base shrivels like a grape to a raisin in the sun. We should not count on their rage dissipating at all, because without it, their party base melts like the Wicked Witch of the West after she has been doused with water.
The Republicans will carefully nurture the rage of their followers like a horticulturalist caring for his prize orchid. It's all they've got.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)meow2u3
(24,764 posts)dalton99a
(81,526 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)What I have been thinking, but have been unable to express so eloquently.
CrispyQ
(36,479 posts)This:
The vitriol the Trumpsters are exhibiting is a sure sign that they dont believe theyre winning anything. It is a sign of discontent and dissatisfaction with the way things are going. It is a recognition that the promise of making America great again is just a slogan on a hat, and has nothing to do with actually making things better for the middle-class workers who put Trump in office in the first place.
I'm posting this chart on my social media accounts today:
gulliver
(13,186 posts)It's hard to sit around and be angry with a bunch of people over and over. Bad for the attitude. And the Q weirdos don't help either.
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)Another home run!
Initech
(100,082 posts)But I will digress. They've been had. They've been consistently lied to for 40 years by professional AM radio hucksters that we're the bad guys. But we're not. The real bad guys are the ones operating in the shadows - the Kochs, the Waltons, the DeVos, Eric Prince, Stephen Miller and so on. The people who have our economic system by the balls have successfully tricked them into thinking everyone else is the enemy. But in reality these are the people who are really coming to take their jobs.
ornotna
(10,803 posts)Another great read, from beginning to end.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)That's the question. If the Dems take Congress, he'll have a convenient excuse for not getting anything done. He is pretending now that he's doing great things. That song will turn to a tale of self pity and woe that those terrible Democrats are stopping him from making America great again.
But it has to be done! When a guy is crazy he needs to be locked up, not allowed to completely ruin himself. So a crazy President needs to be stopped from ruining the country.
nolabear
(41,987 posts)Repetition of words and phrases, on and on until people dont question them.
As a terrible aside, he also said that after his set a man came up and said if he kept making jokes about Trump he was likely to get a bullet to the back of the head. Swell.
rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)JDC
(10,129 posts)Many Trumpanzees are at a place that they know that they have made a mistake, but pride is a strong emotion.
Many now dig in their heels because they want to prove to everyone AND themselves that they were right and that they were too "smart " to be played for a fool like all of the other conned suckers they thought were phonies 'cause Donnie said so. I think they also fear that Dems will throw it in their face, which is exactly what they would do if the shoe was on the other foot.
But they can't run on that fuel forever. Wages flat, but corporate profits at record highs, Farmers needing more aid, companies closing, BS rallies, military parades, golf every weekend, Russia, NK, UN, F'ing SPACE FORCE, America divided, etc etc.
I think that right now there is the only one thing *45 does "right." He knows how to stoke the ever cooling ashes. But all fires eventually exhaust and as Nance so rightly points out, it will eventually burn out and be nothing but a whisp of smoke.
I notice plenty of trumpers much more quiet than they were even 6 mos ago. Sure, they grasp at BS straws like the NFL, or boogie "men" like HRC or Pelosi, but seriously what ever happened to Debbie Boone?
nancy1942
(635 posts)His rabid fans really need to re-direct their anger. They should all be deliriously happy now that their savior reigns over all. They can't blame it on Obama/Hilary/godless Democrats anymore. But they seem to.