This is crazy: Omarosa secretly recorded Kelly IN THE SITUATION ROOM - threatened her.

[sunonmars]

Link to tweet

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Link to tweet

Is there no sodding security in the WH anymore......wanna bet the Russians when they visited recorded everything......This is beyond stupid.

She's not stupid, she has the goods, she has Kelly on tape threatening her....Jesus H, Christ on a bike.

GOP shitting themselves because they have no idea what she has recorded, if she was recording people in the Situation Room, Oval office.....grab your popcorn.

[triron]

1. anything to smear these bastards

[sunonmars]

3. The GOP just shat themselves, wondering what else does she have....i bet she has loads.

Ronna mcDaniel just went off on Twitter screaming about spying on the WH........this is the idiot who hired cohen to run GOP finance.

[manor321]

2. What is on the tape?

[sunonmars]

6. Kelly threatening her about her departure and threatening to destroy her and her reputation.

[hatrack]

13. Wasn't aware she had a reputation that could be ruined . . .

Oh, and lest we forget, who hired her?

Oh, yeah, that guy.

[RestoreAmerica2020]

59. Release the tape(s) now! Also, the odious racist traitor was seen eating paper..perhaps

..Cohen can shed some light on what was on piece of paper guy in WH found so tasty. The man ate paper folks! I Unless he has been diagnosed wth Xylophagia- pica, a paper eating disorder which we have no knowledge of..then he'a just plain loco...really, just what was on that note? You just can't make this locura up!

[Kali]

4. nasty vermin eating each other but infesting the White House

what a disgusting show of "best people" and their best behavior.

[Vinca]

5. I don't care what she says. I can't get past her "bow down to Trump" remark.

She's peddling whatever she's got to make money. If she thought she could make more loot by loving Don, she'd love Don.

[malaise]

14. True but it's fun watching them devour one another

[yallerdawg]

20. That "bow down" comment...

may have just been a revelation of his character - she told us what was going to happen, because she knows the pig!

[VMA131Marine]

7. This was not just stupid, but actually illegal

If Omarosa had a security clearance and knowingly brought her personal electronic device into the secure facility and then intentionally recorded what went on, she is in deep shit. I mean the kind of shit that gets you sent to prison. It is an incredible breach of security, but my guess is that it happens every day in this WH because the mindset of the people who work there is the rules don't apply to them.

Let me add, this degrades US security in a real way. There are tens of thousands of people in the country working on classified US programs who take their commitment to secrecy and security very seriously even though it can be a huge pain in the ass. There is nothing more demoralizing than to see this kind of blatant disregard for the rules happening at the very top of the government. This is a case where leadership by example is important and the Trump WH is setting a horrible example.

[sunonmars]

8. Makes you kind of think, when the Ruskies were in the OO last year, they probably recorded the whole

thing.

[VMA131Marine]

10. I would expect them to have recorded everything

But the difference is that the Russians, not having US security clearances, had no responsibility not to record anything. They should have been searched and relieved of any PEDs before they were admitted to the WH but I doubt that happened.

[Wednesdays]

19. Not only recorded everything at the meeting

But with today's technology, they could sow undetectable bugs the size of dust specks all over the room, and record indefinitely.

[jmowreader]

62. Bugs will never be that small

The laws of physics prohibit it.

You can buy on the open market bugs shaped like pens, and I wouldn’t put it past them to build a video camera into a Sharpie. Trump signs everything with a Sharpie so he’d probably like one with a gold barrel...that can see everything Trump signs, so they can cross it off their assignment sheet.

[OnDoutside]

24. You'd imagine her lawyers would have checked that out....if not, oops ! She did the state some

service in releasing it though. Trump is not going to be happy with Kelly with what he said about the staff.

[B2G]

25. But he's right.

The staff does report to Kelly.

Is the recording online somewhere?

[VMA131Marine]

26. Anyone who has an active clearance shouldn't listen to it.

[B2G]

30. Wasn't it played on MTP today?

And it the recording shouldn't even exist in the first place, but there it is.

[VMA131Marine]

85. It's irrelevant whether it was publicly broadcast or not

Unless the government says it's not classified, or actively declassifies it, a person with a clearance has the responsibility to avoid being exposed to it in any form.

[HipChick]

51. Why? None of it is designated classified..

[VMA131Marine]

84. If it was recorded in a classified facility

(Hen you have no idea if any of the content is classified or not. A person with a security clearance is required to only access materials that are or may be classified if they have the sufficient level of clearance AND the need to know. Since Omarosa's recording was removed from the secure facility illegally and therefore without following the process to ensure only sanitized material is released, it's not safe for a person with a clearance to hear without violating the terms of their own clearance.

This same principle applies to all the classified material leaked by Snowden and Wikileaks. It's stil classified even though it's out in the open and a person with a clearance is obligated not to read it.

[HipChick]

88. in SCIF environments

This tells me, that the WH has no processes in place...Kelly is at fault, and impotent in his job.

[treestar]

28. Reminds me of the Eddie debate

This is transparency! She's leaking and that's always great! I recall those debates on DU about whether Julian Assange and Edward Snowden were heroes for leaking classified information.

[VMA131Marine]

32. I doubt she could succeed using whistle-blower protections as a defense

Remember that Edward Snowden is exiled to Russia for what he did.

[treestar]

36. He didn't use the Whistleblower protection

that wasn't good enough for him or his supporters. Maybe Omarosa can join him in Russia. What a pair!

[cstanleytech]

42. Is what she releasing considered classified though?

[LiberalFighter]

54. The way I would see it is that Kelly never should have had that discussion

in the Situation Room.

[seaglass]

86. Yep. Not sure why no one is asking why firing an employee was a National Security issue.

I'm sure John Kelly has his own office.

I think focusing on this is taking our eyes off the ball - she was threatened and later offered a payoff. This is not normal.

[VMA131Marine]

87. That's not necessarily a problem

although it is odd since Kelly has a private office where he could have had the same conversation.

I assumed that Omarosa had a clearance but that may not have been the case and even if she had one it may not have given her access to the Situation Room. Even then, if the room was properly sanitized, an unclassified person could be brought in. It would be the responsibility of the person escorting the unclassified person to ensure that they did not bring in any unauthorized electronic devices. So the blame falls on Kelly if Omarosa had no clearance and he allowed her to bring a cellphone into the room.

[JDC]

9. Like others are saying, how many more recordings, and by whom?

Looks like it would be child's play to wear a wire in that place. This is what happens when you surround yourself with opportunists.

As far as Kelly is concerned, that conversation screams of him taking orders and relaying a message from his boss. It's a trump m.o.

[lindysalsagal]

46. The russians have such sophisticated tech, it could be there 24/7 and our techs might not even know

If Vlad gave 45 a "gift" at helsinki, it's probably got any number of tech devices in it.
Maybe I watch too many spy movies, but who's to say they haven't embedded something in that yellow hair!!!

[Johnny2X2X]

11. Amateurs

We handed over the keys to our country’s national security to total amateurs and idiots. They let staffers record the situation room because they are insanely incompetent.

[duforsure]

12. When a lowlife

Can't get anyone else to work with him but lowlife people, this is what happens to them . Neither one trusts anyone because they're all corrupt serial lying criminals who are always looking for ways to screw over or blackmail people with. I imagine this has always been both of their plans to compromise others with by video's or audio's of their corrupt actions, and to blackmail others with. Maybe how trump has been doing o members of Congress with too. Or putin has done from getting into their emails and discovering how the GOP have illegally corrupted past elections too.

[lindysalsagal]

47. They're All gangsters: Gangsters don't trust anyone else but other criminals.

[Grasswire2]

15. Question One: WHY was Omarossa in the Situation Room? Ever?!

No one even thinks she had a job description, much less a security clearance!

[FakeNoose]

60. I'm guessing it was John Kelly's idea, not hers

She supposedly was caught off guard, didn't know she was being fired, until the day it happened.

Maybe Kelly took her into the Situation Room so nobody else would overhear them, and he must have thought he'd be away from any secret recording equipment. I guess he didn't consider that SHE would secretly record HIM on her cellphone.

In any case there's so much damaging info out there already, more than enough to bury Cheeto and probably Kelly too. I don't think Manigalt was involved in any of it, and rarely saw Cheeto ever, except on TV. Her job was of no consequence - it was just a payoff, and she had nothing to do with the Russians. What dirt could she possibly have on him?

[GoCubsGo]

77. That is actually Question Two.

Question One: What the fuck was going on that we don't know about that they were all in the Situation Room? Why were any of them in there? What was the situation?

[Grasswire2]

80. Fair enough.

But it's clear there is no protocol for security issues. NOBODY should have a PED in the Sit Room.

[GoCubsGo]

82. Oh, for sure.

I'm surprised that nitwit didn't leak what going on at the time beyond Kelly swearing at her.

[HipChick]

16. She as a right to protect herself...

[dembotoz]

23. that is sadly very very true

[lindysalsagal]

48. THis book and these tv appearances are the opposite of protection.

[UTUSN]

17. K&R

[ooky]

18. So lets hear the recordings.

I don't want cable news to talk me to death about what she says she has. Produce it already. I'm starting to reach for the remote when I hear "Omarosa".

[HipChick]

21. They played it on MTP today...

Could be subjective...

[yallerdawg]

22. I think she's keepin' her ammo dry!

When everyone finishes calling her a liar and a "lowlife" - THEN the tapes and their own words come out!

This is whistleblower documentation of a fraudulent criminal organization she was "complicit in" - her words.

[LisaL]

27. The tape has been released.

[B2G]

31. Where? nt

[LisaL]

33. This link has the whole recording.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/12/omarosa-says-was-complicit-in-white-house-deceit-claims-chief-staff-john-kelly-threatened-her.html

[B2G]

37. Thanks, just found it on MTP too.

I don't see an issue with Kelly's demeanor.

She may regret releasing this tape. I find it very easy to believe she made some pretty significant violations.

[LisaL]

40. Yes, there is nothing Earth shuttering on the tape itself, except the fact that

she was able to tape her conversations with other White House staff. I am guessing that wasn't the only tape.

[B2G]

41. Very likely it's not.

Also very likely she may find herself in a bit of legal jeopardy as a result.

[LisaL]

43. I am not going to cry if she does.

[B2G]

45. That makes 2 of us. nt

[DemocracyMouse]

61. Kelly pretty clearly stated he wanted fealty AFTER Amorasa's departure otherwise the gang would...

...make trouble for her. People, go back and listen to that recording.

And give Amarosa a break.

[kcr]

65. The reactions she gets vs Micheal Cohen are very telling, aren't they?

It's not the first time I've noticed this, either. How many Trump insiders have turned on him and got the hero treatment and an immediate welcome with open arms to the Trump Resistance? But not her. Gee, I wonder why?

[DemocracyMouse]

71. I really should have watched more of The Apprentice as research...

... but I couldn't stand the show. Perhaps people unconsciously are irritated by Amorosa for letting herself be degraded by the show. But then again perhaps we should actually give her credit for holding her nose so long and tolerating Trump while riding his stupid bronco right into the Whitehouse. Then again maybe she's just another opportunistic sycophant? I just don't have enough pop culture background to really formulate an opinion... maybe someone who watches a lot of television can provide the bullet points?

[kcr]

74. I never watched the show, myself.

I do remember that she was apparently the villain on the show. I'm sure her relationship with the Trump admin was one of opportunity given her association through her appearance on the show. Personally, I'd take her over any of them. They were associated with him because they ran in the same circles of power and money. The only reason they turned on him was to save their own skins. It certainly helps anyone who wishes to oust Trump, so I understand applauding and encouraging their decisions. I just think the same should apply to her. They were certainly no better than she is.

[dansolo]

76. Michael Cohen never said that we should "bow down" to trump

I don't know what you are suggesting, but the reactions to her are well deserved.

[kcr]

83. He only bodily threatened people. He was Trump's fixer for years.

I'm not suggesting anything. I'm outright saying there is hypocrisy.

[B2G]

66. Lol. It's almost like she has a track record or something. nt

[ooky]

44. Thanks.

I think this in itself doesn't do much of anything. It will be more interesting when/if the detailed accounts of what she was fired for, hers and theirs, come out. Too bad the tape stops at the part where Kelly turns the conversation over to the lawyers. I bet she has it. But until there's some "meat" I've had my fill of MSM feeding frenzy about Omarosa.

[stonecutter357]

29. K&R !

[mshasta]

34. She was call to the situation room why?

And not the chief of staff office


Another she knew ahead of time her time was up...she cover all her bases ,

“ don’t treat on me” snake flag is omorosas perfect fit

[JHB]

35. Secret recording in the Situation room? But... but.. but...

But Her Emails.

[B2G]

38. What 'goods' does she have exactly?

I don't see him as threatening her other than advising her not to do exactly what she did. Given this woman's history, I find it very easy to believe they have numerous serious allegations against her.

[pangaia]

39. More proof that todd is just a highly paid poor actor

playing the part of a.. a what... I don;t even know what character he is paying..

A reporter?
A 'news anchor? HA HA--Think about it, What is a NEWS ANCHOR.. ?

[ancianita]

49. She has been true to Ralph Ellison's "Invisible Man" trope: a spy in enemy territory.

We'll see what she witnessed.

[B2G]

50. "Awesome human' hardly describes her.

[LiberalFighter]

52. This is why everyone that is a veteran or serves in the military

should not get a blanket respect. There are too many still in the military and out of the military that are scum.

Anyone with bad character needs to be blasted.

[calimary]

53. What bothers me is - the likelihood we have Russian spies IN OUR White House.

We already have The Russian Asset in the Oval Office forcryingoutloud. Why wouldn't there be others? And maybe they can carry little recorders around with them or their cell phones to record things, too?

I'm uneasy about that part of it. But just situationally, gotta be honest here. I'm glad we have that tape because it creates more conflict and disruption and chaos within the White House. And it exposes more shit. And it makes them look bad. And more bad. And increasingly more bad. And the more they're all knocked off their game, the less damage they can do to the rest of us.

Psy-ops, and useful machiavellian mind-fucking dontchaknow.

[smirkymonkey]

72. +1000

[Enoki33]

55. The security issue concerns are obvious and well stated . There is a much

more glaring and dangerous security situation - namely the very person who sits in the Oval Office, and the example he projects down the chain. Some might say criminal chain that is beginning to expose it’s rot.

[Collimator]

56. "You are known by the company you keep."

Omarossa is essentially Trump.

She has faced greater challenges because of her sex and color, and I would venture that she is actually smarter than he is. However, without the built-in advantages that Trump possesses, she is not as rich or connected, and therefore less "successful" than Trump.

Her other problem is that she showed her hand earlier than he did, by behaving according to her true nature on The Apprentice. Earlier in his career, Trump's showmanship put a shiny veneer on his narcissism and blatant self interest. There are still plenty of people whose better sense has been blinded by Trump's shine.

Neither one of them understands true loyality. Trump in particular can demand it, but it is simply not a quality possessed by either one of them.

They used each other to serve their own purposes, now they will claw each other into shreds if each thinks it will benefit them.

To use one of Trump's simple sentiments, #Sad.

[DeminPennswoods]

57. Frum's hilarious tweet

If Omarosa carried for example a cellphone into the Situation Room, then not only did she record conversations there, but so potentially has any country or criminal organization that thought to hack her phone
6:26 am - 12 Aug 2018

Trump's on an unsecured cell phone for hours every day. Really, who would need to hack Omarosa's phone?

[FakeNoose]

58. She got her job in the WH as a payoff, but I don't think she got any facetime

I don't think she had any actual "duties" and nobody was certain what her BS title was.
She wasn't included in the staff meetings, and her position was way below Cabinet level.
So my point is, how much dirt can she possibly have on Cheeto?

OK she has a grudge and she wrote a book. If John Kelly gets fired, it won't be because of this!

[sandensea]

64. I agree. He'll be fired after Election Day.

Cheeto will find a way to blame him for the fracas - and, of course, Mueller, "Fake News," Bigfoot, etc.

[-Steph-]

63. Is he threatening to pursue legal action over something she had already done, or is he threatening

that if she starts leaking information THAT would give him grounds to pursue legal action?

[FakeNoose]

67. The recording is from the day she was fired and escorted from the premises

Kelly's job was to see that she left as quickly and quietly as possible. But they needed security to take her out of the White House, so I don't think she went quietly. She was screaming and insulting everyone.

The audiotape of Kelly's "threat" was very veiled and probably wouldn't stand up in court if she ever brought charges against him. He wanted her to promise that she wouldn't start blabbing to the press. My guess is that Omarosa was never asked to sign an NDA (whoopsie!). If she had signed one, this book would have never happened.

Here's the link to the DU post the day she was fired:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141938565

[-Steph-]

78. Thank you so much!

[0rganism]

73. it's a trap

i'd bet money she's still doing Trump's dirty work right now. she's going to get a whole lot of folks sympathizing with her and shit-talking Trump using her stories, and then in a month or two, after as many liberals as possible have bought the book, she'll turn around and say something like "it was all made up, and the tapes were an edited hoax"

when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

[Solly Mack]

75. LOL (Navarro comment)

Trump WH is a security sieve. That's scary, truly scary.

[Chitown Kev]

79. Lordy...

I'll give you your props, Omarosa, but you have to come much much much better than this is you want to be invited to the cookout.

[Golden Raisin]

81. Security protocols in the White House fail

right at the top. Hasn't it been reported that Trump has repeatedly used an unsecured cellphone?

[HipChick]

89. Big fail...Kelly needs to quit..

[Bettie]

90. Come on, did ANYONE really think that anything about this

situation we find our nation in would be even close to normal?

I'm not surprised that things are being recorded. In fact, anyone who works there and DOESN'T record interactions is probably in the minority.

I'd further bet that anyone who has ever done business with that orange thing records any interaction with him and/or his organization because they are all known to be dishonest.