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Cyrano

(15,043 posts)
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 02:42 PM Aug 2018

The Constitution is forcing us to put up with a maniac

There are only two ways to remove a president: (1) Impeachment; (2) The 25th Amendment. (Google it if you don't know what it is.)

The vast majority of Americans know that an unhinged, ignorant, cruel, incompetent man is sitting in the Oval Office doing whatever the fuck he wants to do.

And the vast majority of Americans know that there's not a damn thing we can do about it. The criminal organization called the Republican Party won't impeach him. And, the toadies in his cabinet won't declare him unfit to serve under the 25th Amendment.

This episode in history is screaming out to us that we need a third way to remove a madman from the presidency.

What is that third way? I don't know. And it will become an argument that hangs over our heads for years to come. Hopefully, a solution will be found before another mentally unfit person obtains the power of the presidency.

In the meantime, the Constitution is restraining us from taking any steps to drag this man kicking and screaming from the White House. In a way, this is a good thing. We are a country of laws and we abide by them.

On the other hand, our Constitution has painted us into a corner where we must, by law, allow an insane man to rule America, and perhaps destroy the world.

I've often heard that the Constitution is not a suicide pact. Whoever said that was obviously mistaken. What's to stop Trump from pushing his "Big Button" whenever he feels the walls closing in?

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dem4decades

(11,297 posts)
1. No the Constitution isn't forcing us, it's the
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 02:48 PM
Aug 2018

Complicit Republican majorities in Congress. The framers built on protections against Trump, but not an entire political seeking to destroy our Republic

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
3. IMO, stacking the courts with corporate soldiers is their main agenda.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 03:02 PM
Aug 2018

The Republicans are thrilled with the daily distractions while they ram through their picks.
They know the president will appoint anyone they submit as long as they stay quiet about his crimes.
The longer this drags out the more complete the coup becomes.
If it continues long enough the damage will be irreversible.

brush

(53,794 posts)
4. It's complicated. Of course the EC has to go, but that doesn't eradicate a complicit party in...
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 03:03 PM
Aug 2018

total charge that refuses to move on one of their own.

A parliamentary system with multiple parties and votes of no confidence is almost impossible to imagine ever happening. The upheaval in the country would be wrenching, but it should.

Some kind of national recall, a referendum, general election could solve it but that would have to written into the Constitution—that's another roadblock as repugs, who are in total charge of all three branches of gov. would never initiate it and take it to the floors of the House and Senate to be voted on.

The Constitution has this flaw and the orange pustule is the one who has exposed it. The 25th Amendment doesn't suffice.

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
2. When lawbreakers write the laws
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 02:52 PM
Aug 2018

I can only hope that the providence that gave us our founders is still on the job. This depth and degree of corruption cannot end well.

Cyrano

(15,043 posts)
8. Couldn't agree more
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 03:38 PM
Aug 2018

But we're not under a parliamentary system.

Pluses and minuses to both systems.

However, IMO, our Constitutional system is FUBAR.

Wish I had an answer.

mnhtnbb

(31,396 posts)
9. The problem with the Constitution is the assumption
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 05:23 PM
Aug 2018

made by the Founding Father's that elected representatives would be men of integrity who would put country before their own interests. That is gone. And because so many Republicans are lacking integrity and the concern for the common good, we have a wannabe dictator sitting in the Oval Office unconstrained by the members of his party who hold both houses of Congress, where the checks and balances are supposed to be located.

It's a giant clusterfuck, shining light on the weaknesses of the republic. Ben Franklin was right. Unless the Dems take the House in November, I fear we are going to lose the Republic.

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