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NickB79

(19,243 posts)
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 11:25 PM Aug 2018

Scientists Have Uncovered a Disturbing Climate Change Precedent

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/earths-scorching-hot-history/566762/

But the most striking feature of this early age of mammals is that it was almost unbelievably hot, so hot that around 50 million years ago there were crocodiles, palm trees, and sand tiger sharks in the Arctic Circle. On the other side of the blue-green orb, in waters that today would surround Antarctica, sea-surface temperatures might have topped an unthinkable 86 degrees Fahrenheit, with near-tropical forests on Antarctica itself. There were perhaps even sprawling, febrile dead zones spanning the tropics, too hot even for animal or plant life of any sort.

This is what you get in an ancient atmosphere with around 1,000 parts per million (ppm) of carbon dioxide. If this number sounds familiar, 1,000 ppm of CO2 is around what humanity is on pace to reach by the end of this century. That should be mildly concerning.


Welcome to the future. Invest in farmland in Siberia and Canada.
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Scientists Have Uncovered a Disturbing Climate Change Precedent (Original Post) NickB79 Aug 2018 OP
50 million a yeas ago wasn't the Arctic (what it is now) circle around what is now TN? tonyt53 Aug 2018 #1
It may well have been canetoad Aug 2018 #5
The continents moved around some but were not that far off csziggy Aug 2018 #6
Because fossil fuel carbon was organic life that once digested Sunlight. ffr Aug 2018 #2
We need to start serious population reduction or our planet will do it for us. roamer65 Aug 2018 #3
I'm in Europe now spinbaby Aug 2018 #4

canetoad

(17,160 posts)
5. It may well have been
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:26 AM
Aug 2018

The earth's plates have moved around a lot. However the planet had a location we now call the North Pole at 90 degrees North.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
6. The continents moved around some but were not that far off
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 02:57 AM
Aug 2018

Here is a view of the continents about 50 million years ago:

http://dinosaurpictures.org/ancient-earth/#50

At that site you can select what time you want to view - it's interesting.

The Arctic and Antarctic were not that different then than they are now.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
2. Because fossil fuel carbon was organic life that once digested Sunlight.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 11:42 PM
Aug 2018

So in a way, humans are releasing millions of years of sequestered Sunlight within a century or two.

Where Does the Energy in Fossil Fuels Come From?


A Solar Power Bank

All the energy in oil, gas, and coal originally came from the sun, captured through photosynthesis. In the same way that we burn wood to release energy that trees capture from the sun, we burn fossil fuels to release the energy that ancient plants captured from the sun. We can think of this energy as having been deposited in a natural solar power bank over millions of years. - MTU.edu

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
4. I'm in Europe now
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:05 AM
Aug 2018

Switzerland, Germany, now the Alsace region of France. The grass is kind of crunchy, trees are turning brown from prolonged heat and drought. All anyone seems to talk about is climate change. I’ve learned how many days of heat and how hot, how everything blooms a month earlier nowadays, how the vineyards are suffering.

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