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Rep JERRY NADLER (soon to oversee impeachment) "Potus is directly implicated in criminal conspiracy" (Original Post) kpete Aug 2018 OP
Love the part where he says awesomerwb1 Aug 2018 #1
Sounds like Nadler and Pelosi aren't on the same page BeyondGeography Aug 2018 #2
Nancy Pelosi has reasons for saying this FakeNoose Aug 2018 #5
The problem is no one actually believes impeachment won't be a priority BeyondGeography Aug 2018 #6
True. Besides her stance risks putting off the liberal dem base triron Aug 2018 #10
You Don't Say One Thing DallasNE Aug 2018 #19
Pelosi doesn't want to motivate Trump voters to the polls in red districts that Democrats octoberlib Aug 2018 #9
Some of Nadler's words during the Clinton impeachment will comeback to haunt him. aikoaiko Aug 2018 #3
no they won't. JHan Aug 2018 #7
We'll see. aikoaiko Aug 2018 #11
.. JHan Aug 2018 #12
Of course its different. That's not really the point. aikoaiko Aug 2018 #17
Right it is different, JHan Aug 2018 #18
I think once they hold hearings NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #13
I'd like to believe that more people will want impeachment. aikoaiko Aug 2018 #16
as I posted below NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #15
+1, Red Don knowingly directed the commission of a crime. uponit7771 Aug 2018 #4
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #8
#TrumpKnew sarcasmo Aug 2018 #14
Dems need to push the idea of two prongs impeach AND indict JCMach1 Aug 2018 #20

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
1. Love the part where he says
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 01:21 PM
Aug 2018

"Democrats are poised to take action to respond to this CULTURE OF CORRUPTION THAT HAS TAKEN HOLD UNDER MR.TRUMP AND REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL MAJORITIES.

Dems, say it over and over and over again. CULTURE OF CORRUPTION!!

Nice letter. "House Republicans may be willing to abet President Trump's worst behavior, but I am not". Nice.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
5. Nancy Pelosi has reasons for saying this
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 01:51 PM
Aug 2018

Trust me, Pelosi wants to be rid of the orange asshole as much as any of us do. She has strategic reasons for saying that "impeachment is not a priority" however.

She understands that there are many contested districts in the 50 states where Democratic candidates are trying hard to beat the Republican incumbent. Many (if not most) have a good chance of succeeding in winning their seats and flipping their districts. But it's still a tough sell in the red districts, so there's no reason to make it harder for them. There's no need to push the treason/impeachment talk now. Don't get the GOP all upset, let them think everything is hunky-dory. Obviously it's not, but we just need to get the seats flipped to blue in November.

Once the Dems win the majority in the House, it's a whole new ballgame. We're not there yet, but we will be in November. Trust Nancy Pelosi, she knows what she's doing. She's been around the block a few times. She'll be leading the impeachment brigade when the time comes.



DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
19. You Don't Say One Thing
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 05:26 PM
Aug 2018

Before the election and another thing after the election all Trump like.

That said, we need to let things play out and see where it takes us. No need to be premature either way.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
9. Pelosi doesn't want to motivate Trump voters to the polls in red districts that Democrats
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 03:59 PM
Aug 2018

are trying to win. Bannon told Ari Melber he's going to use impeachment to motivate the Trump Troll base.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
3. Some of Nadler's words during the Clinton impeachment will comeback to haunt him.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 01:24 PM
Aug 2018

This will be interesting.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
7. no they won't.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 03:54 PM
Aug 2018

Unless you actually believe Clinton's behavior which lead to impeachment and Trump's are one in the same.

and there's a word for such specious reasoning: bothsideism.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
11. We'll see.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:09 PM
Aug 2018

I remember some talk by Nadler that impeachment shouldn't happen if it wasn't supported by a vast majority of Americans and covering up an affair was not an impeachable event. Maybe that was someone else.



JHan

(10,173 posts)
12. ..
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:19 PM
Aug 2018

know what..nevermind. Because I refuse to explain why this shit is different. It's not like people don't know .. so this is all I've got:


JHan

(10,173 posts)
18. Right it is different,
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:31 PM
Aug 2018

you are right to point out the political calculations which need to be made but again, I don't see how Nadler's words will come to haunt anything- since we both acknowledge Trump's behavior to be far more egregious.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
13. I think once they hold hearings
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:21 PM
Aug 2018

and idiots like Don Jr, Eric, Jared, Manafort,Gates, Papadapolous, etc testify under oath and start stabbing each other in the back and/or making huge gaffes, we'll see support for impeachment increase quite a bit from its already high levels. I think most polls have indicated that impeachment support is already higher than Trump's overall support.

I don't recall there being an overwhelming groundswell of Americans wanting to impeach Clinton back in the 90s - it fired up the RW base of the Republicans, but Democrats and independents were "meh" about it, or felt that censure was more appropriate.

According to this - it was 65 to 32 against impeachment after a week of hearings
https://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/21/us/impeachment-polls-public-support-for-president-for-closure-emerges-unshaken.html

Trump is already in the 40s on needing to be impeached.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
15. as I posted below
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:22 PM
Aug 2018

At it's height a week into hearings on impeachment in 1998, it was 65 to 32 AGAINST the idea of Clinton being impeached or resigning

Trump is already into the 40s on being impeached.

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/21/us/impeachment-polls-public-support-for-president-for-closure-emerges-unshaken.html

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
20. Dems need to push the idea of two prongs impeach AND indict
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 06:40 PM
Aug 2018

at the same time... Reason, Senate Republicans cannot be relied upon to do their damn job.

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