Sadly, Idris Elba won't be the next James Bond

[fleur-de-lisa]

https://pagesix.com/2018/08/22/sadly-idris-elba-wont-be-the-next-james-bond/

Idris Elba won’t get a license to kill after all.

The 45-year-old British actor, a fan favorite to replace Daniel Craig as James Bond, put the matter to rest Wednesday.

Stepping out with fiancée Sabrina Dhowre to attend his directorial debut “Yardie,” the suave actor was asked if he’ll assume the iconic spy role.

“No,” he told ITV’s “Good Morning Britain,” which presented him with a dry martini, Bond’s signature cocktail, and asked if preferred it shaken or stirred.

No word on who it will be.

[Crunchy Frog]

1. I want Gillian Anderson.

[LuvLoogie]

26. Right?...

But who should be the next James Bond?

[SummerSnow]

32. Gerard Butler?

[LuvLoogie]

39. Too old for a reboot.

He's almost 50. Need someone mid-30s, tops. I think Matt Damon was great for the Bourne flicks. Right age. That's important for a physical Superspy role.

I really like Daniel Craig. He reminds me of Steve McQueen in a way.

[SummerSnow]

50. Eww, no Matt Damon. Henry Cavill would have been perfect, but he's Superman now

[dixiegrrrrl]

78. Think....Joel Kinnnaman

He was the lead in The Killing, and in the movie Altered Carbon.

6' 2-3", can do brit accents, very hunky bod.

[SummerSnow]

82. hey, i can see him playing Bond. All he has to do is put on a few pounds, slick his hair back.

[hlthe2b]

2. I never thought a blonde would work, but Daniel Craig was good... Elba would have been perfect...

though it would have been better if he'd gotten it earlier, I think...

Well, maybe we'll get more Luther.

[MGKrebs]

6. They always fight too much now.

Bond was supposed to be able to beat the bad guys with wit and skill, not just beat them up or shoot them.
But, that is the time in which we live I guess.

[hlthe2b]

8. True. Like British detective shows v American, the former are more intellectual, rather than violent

Bond has gone the same way...

[eleny]

12. These days I watch an episode of Midsomer Murders each night

The most soft spoken police detective in the history of detecting. Calms my nerves.

[hlthe2b]

21. I like Endeavor (the precurser to the Inspector Morse/Inspector Lewis series)

Funny, because I never got into murder mysteries, but that is really what those series are... I'll have to get into "Midsomer" as well.

[eleny]

24. Endeavor!

*sigh* The season is way too short.

We subscribed to Acorn to get the British mysteries as well as the ones from other countries like Australia. Before that I got them on dvd from the library. They have them all and will order what they don't have already. Love our Colorado libraries!

[NewJeffCT]

20. Aren't there different versions of Bond movies

one with more action/violence released for American audiences, and another with more sex and less violence for European audiences? Or, maybe that was the case before the internet became ubiquitous?

[hlthe2b]

22. I don't know, but that wold be interesting, if so.

[NewJeffCT]

25. I remember hearing that

probably back in the 1990s and thinking that is so like America to prefer violence over sex. Not sure if it's continued in the Daniel Craig era, or even the Pierce Brosnan era, though

[Trumpocalypse]

42. No that never happened.

Always been the edit or cut released worldwide.

[Solly Mack]

3. That sucks.

He'd make a delicious Bond.

[librechik]

4. One more for Daniel Craig, according to him-- Seems a natural spot for

"On Her Majesties Secret Service, wherein Bond gets married and the bride is killed. Saw it on the tv!

[Ilsa]

14. I think Daniel Craig's JB retired himself at the end of Spectre,

walking away from Her Majesty's Service with a blond. At least that was the impression I got. All of his movies were like chapters in a big book that culminated with Spectre.

[librechik]

41. he changed his mind

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/24/movies/daniel-craig-is-coming-back-as-james-bond-in-2019.html

[Trumpocalypse]

43. No already announced

Craig is doing the next film being released next year.

[sdfernando]

28. That one was with

George Lazenby, Telly Savalas and Diana Rigg. Easily the worst Bond film made, or should I say worst Bond actor?

[librechik]

40. exactlyand Diana Rigg!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

5. Boo. Just saw him in The Mountain Between us

With Kate Winslet. No a great movie..but keeps your interest on a rainy day. He is dreamy

[Ilsa]

13. Huh. I liked it.

Not great, but I thought there was beauty in the story.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. I did like it ! Didn't like her fiance

[KT2000]

27. I really liked that movie

centering on a changing relationship rather than action adventure was good. The struggle they went through was exhausting and well played.
Also - there was no green screen - they actually filmed in 34 below temps on the mountain and Kate Winslet really did go into the water - 7 takes!
Gotta say - I loved the ending too.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. Wow. I kept saying

Don't leave the plane !

[KT2000]

47. Ha!

A sauce pan for pee can only take a movie so far.
Also - the dog lived!!

[USALiberal]

46. Idiotic plot, the book was great, they screwed up the movie. nt

[Bleacher Creature]

7. He would have been fantastic, but he'd be 47 (best case scenario) when the next movie starts to film

It definitely would have been doable, but he'd likely need to be more Roger Moore, and less Daniel Craig.

[zipplewrath]

9. Female bond

With all the female crossover stuff we're doing these days, maybe they should think about a female Bond. Jamie Bond? Jane Bond?

[uponit7771]

15. +1

[Blue_true]

35. Does that mean the Bond movies will have less sex? nt

[zipplewrath]

36. More

Traditionally Hollywood is more comfortable showing alot of female total nudity than male. You can imagine them actually SHOWING the sex as oppose to the more common "allusion" to sex in many Bond movies.

[Blue_true]

37. I didn't think of things that way. Good point.

Honestly, I think the plot lines in Bond Movies are sort of run of the mill, they need the sex to make them halfway interesting.

[zipplewrath]

57. And new sex

the art form does seem to scream for new blood.

[Trumpocalypse]

45. James Bond is a male character.

Not a woman. While it would be interesting to see a spinoff series with a female MI6 agent, Ian Fleming’s James Bond 007 is and will always be a man.

[Loki Liesmith]

53. Moneypenny

[zipplewrath]

56. Jesus was "black"

It's funny how Hollywood can chane the roles of characters

[Trumpocalypse]

62. Except

James Bond is a copywriter character owned by the estate of Ian Fleming.

[zipplewrath]

64. And they can change that

The estate can change the nature of the character.

[Trumpocalypse]

65. Why would they want to?

It would be disrespectful to the memory of Ian Fleming to change his creation. No one has the moral or legal right to do that.

[zipplewrath]

67. Money

Basically, money. There is some indication that the franchise is waning a bit as well, so it could be an attempt to "revive" the character.

[Trumpocalypse]

69. The last 2 were 2 of the most successful

in the franchise’s history, even when adjusting for inflation. So there is no indication that the franchise is waning.

[obamanut2012]

74. I have some Ben Gay for you

From twisting yourself into a pretzel over this.

[Trumpocalypse]

81. How am I twisting myself into a pretzel?

The character Ian Fleming created was male. No one has the legal or moral right to change that character. It is called copyright law and intellectual property.

[LanternWaste]

86. You're in effect stating, "this imaginary character can only be X,"

You're in effect stating, "this imaginary character can only be X," despite the character being, well... imaginary.

You're placing arbitrary limits on the limitless.

No one of rational mind gets upset if a Shakespearean drama is set in the early 20th century (Love's Labors Lost, 2000) or the ghetto of New York (West Side Story). No one of sound mind gets upset when a white man plays Othello against an all black cast. And no one (except annoying fanboys) pretend sound science is applied 100% of the time to science-fiction movies.

And yet, you're railing about the immorality of a mere gender change to a fictional (let's repeat that for effect: an imaginary, made-up story) character.




Though I'm betting you'll rationalize your intolerance of a benign change as something else.

[Trumpocalypse]

90. No I'm stating that a character created by an author

in which there is a copyright the is owned by the author and in this case his estate. It is someone else's intellectual property. No one else has the right to make changes to it just as you have no right to remodel someone else's house without their permission.

And the comparison to Shakespeare is intellectually dishonest since those works are in the public domain and not copyrighted.

[rusty fender]

58. If you say so, Mr Fleming

NOT! Jeebus

[Trumpocalypse]

63. Mr. Fleming did say so.

[obamanut2012]

73. Please post the law that says that?

Please articulate why, say, Gillian Anderson cannot be 007? Without saying anything sexist.

I guess that means Doctor Who can also never be a woman... oh wait.

[Trumpocalypse]

80. It's called copyright law.

The copyright is owned by Fleming's estate and they respect his memory too much to mess with the character that he created.

And Doctor Who is a different character. Change, and radical change, has always part of the character so having a female Doctor Who is just the next logical step.

[LanternWaste]

87. Your continued protestations leaning on copyright law are simply not accurate.

Eon Productions owns the trademark and copyrights to the character, hence the potential changes Barbara Broccoli (producer of the current iteration) has been discussing openly with MGM.

And due to the spurious nature of trademark laws from country to country, the character is already in the the public domain in some countries.



Though I'm betting none of this will change your predisposition to a male-only actor for an imaginary role.

[Trumpocalypse]

89. No. Eon holds the copyrights to the films

The copyright of the character of James Bond is held by Ian Fleming's estate. And what open discussions is Eon having with MGM? Can you post a link to prove what you are claiming?

[SummerSnow]

83. Jane Bond, James' cousin twice removed

[Trumpocalypse]

84. Since that would be a different character

there would be nothing wrong with that. It is changing the original character created by Ian Fleming that some are suggesting.

[MineralMan]

10. We need a "Jane Bond" movie.

Jennifer Lawrence?

[Revanchist]

60. Oh hell no!

Don't try to make the most famous British secret agent an American.

[Trumpocalypse]

66. No James Bond is a male character

as created by Ian Fleming.

If you want to see a female MI6 agent, go write your own novel or screenplay and don't mess with someone else's creation.

[MineralMan]

68. LOL! Hollywood will do as it pleases, I'm sure.

Ian Fleming is long dead. All it would take is a "Jane Bond" script and they'd be off to the races. You might not see the movie, but that doesn't matter, either.

[Trumpocalypse]

70. Hollywood has nothing to do with it

The copyright is held by Eon productions in London and Ian Fleming’s estate. And they respect the memory of Fleming too much to mess with his creation.

[MineralMan]

71. LOL!

Money.

[Trumpocalypse]

77. So?

The films are doing fine. No reason for a big change. Plus those who own the rights revere Ian Fleming. They would never disrespect him by making such a change.

[obamanut2012]

75. Gillian Anderson

British, kickass, with a built-in fan base. More than Craig had.

[spicysista]

11. Would love to see Naomie Harris as Agent 007.

She's very talented and can pull off any look. Not sure if her appearance Skyfall would hinder her as an option. Nah, I'm sure that they can write something clever to tie it all together.....

[Ilsa]

16. Moneypenny seemed intent

on staying out of the field after she shot 007 and then met him in south Asia.

But she'd be great!

[Yavin4]

17. Good. I'd rather that he continues to play Luther instead and bring it to the screen.

To me diversity works best with new heroes and new stories.

[Vinca]

18. That's too bad - he would have been perfect.

[Dave Starsky]

19. James Bond fans would have lost their shit over a black Bond.

Which is sad, because Idris Elba is an amazing actor and would have nailed the part. He would have been a great James Bond.

James Bond fans would have been mad that James Bond's skin color didn't match the character described in Ian Fleming's books.

What James Bond fans don't know (or conveniently choose to forget) is that the James Bond movies bear little resemblance to the books they're based on. Most of them literally (and I mean that literally AND figuratively) share only a title with the source material. Many of them don't even share that.

[John Fante]

51. Idris Elba as Bond would have shattered box office records for the series.

No question. Pissing off a bunch of idiots would have made the success that much sweeter.

[RhodeIslandOne]

55. I'm a "James Bond fan" and would be fine with it

The series has already been rebooted with Craig. Another reboot would not affect a thing.

I'm also getting quite a laugh that you think 'JAMES BOND FANS" don't know that Fleming's books haven't had a bearing on the movies in years. I, for one, am aware of all of it. Such as that Bond's CIA buddy Felix Leiter lost his arm in Fleming's "Live and Let Die", yet that wasn't seen onscreen until "License To Kill". And that the original "Moonraker" novel never ended up in space like the film. And that "You Only Live Twice" novel wise occurs AFTER the events of "On Her Majesty's Secret Service". And that a title of one of Fleming's stories hasn't been used since 1987.

But go on about what "JAMES BOND FANS" don't know about about canon, please?

[Dave Starsky]

59. I should have used the word "fans" in quotes.

That's originally how I drafted that post, but I deleted the quotes. I, too, have followed the books and the films throughout my life. I would be thrilled with an Idris Elba Bond. But there are a lot of "fans" that would have a problem with it, for all the reasons I stated, however spurious they may be.

[jalan48]

23. Too bad. He would have been great. I first saw him in the Wire and he did a great job in that.

[KT2000]

29. he would have been perfect

his carriage, voice, and accent are pure Bond.

[Orangeutan]

30. My personal choice would be Michael Fassbender,

who was pretty suave as the Englishman pretending to be a German officer in "Inglourious Basterds."

[Ilsa]

38. I liked that movie! Love Fassbender, too, always. nt

[Omaha Steve]

31. Marta and I thought he would be good

[Trumpocalypse]

44. This has always been a BS story

Elba was never considered for role. He was suggested in an email of a former MGM exec, but MGM doesn’t decide who plays Bond, EON Productions does, specifically Michael Wilson and Barbara Broccoli. They never, ever considered Elba.

[SMC22307]

48. Aidan Turner (Poldark, Being Human, Desperate Romantics)...

SERIOUSLY. Although Idris would have rocked it. Luther was awesome.

[Nonhlanhla]

49. I nominate Tom Hiddleston

for the role. Handsome, can do fight scenes and drink tea (or martinis) with equal ease, and can actually act.

[spicysista]

54. Nice choice! nt.

[SummerSnow]

85. Sounds good to me....

[John Fante]

52. Tom Hardy would make a great Bond.

[Revanchist]

61. Really liked him in Peaky Blinders

[obamanut2012]

72. Gillian Anderson, pleaaaaaaaase

[IADEMO2004]

76. What would Megyn Kelly say????

[themaguffin]

79. Sadly? He's 45! That's more or less when Bond's should retire, not start.

[PassingFair]

88. Clive Owen. Only way I'd pay to see a Bond movie.