Mueller ready to move knight into checkmate?

[kentuck]

When will he subpoena Don Jr and/or Jared Kushner?

I get the sense that he is getting ready to make a big move.

Will it happen before the end of this month?

[still_one]

1. have no idea, but by all appearances he is proceeding in a very methodical manner, lining up the

evidence so there will be very little wiggle room for anyone to refute the evidence

[PatSeg]

8. It is like he is working

from a very well crafted Hollywood script. There are no accidents or misstep with this guy. Really impressive.

[still_one]

15. I think so

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. Except...and not dissing promise. The counts

That were declared mistrial in manafort...sounds like they might not have presented enough proper evidence...or at least did not show how to determine guilt? Many related to bank fraud which is fairly black and white. Intent harder. You lied on app or you didn't. I don't know...not a lawyer...but have worked for banks

[PatSeg]

27. It turns out it was just one juror

who held out on the ten counts. I guess things got very contentious in the jury room. It appears that everyone else was on board for all 18 counts. Something really reeks about that jury.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. Wow. I missed that ! Interesting. You know experts

Thought he was aiming for mistrial and not acquittal. But, if rigged why would that one juror not have voted innocent on all?

[PatSeg]

37. Maybe too obvious

or maybe she liked being contrary and wanted the attention.

[spooky3]

33. I think it suggests just the opposite. According to the one juror who spoke to the media

the other 11 knew fairly early on (after reviewing evidence) that they agreed on "guilty" for all 18 verdicts. They tried hard to persuade the holdout but she felt there was still "reasonable doubt." Surely you have known similarly stubborn people in your life. At least she went with them on the other 8 counts.

The juror also described things that suggested the judge's comments and actions in some cases may have influenced the jury (as many here said) but she didn't outright say that. She had impressions about Gates and the prosecutors that may be helpful for their next trial.

[PatSeg]

38. Yes

It is hard to see a trail from the jury's perspective if you weren't there every day seeing and hearing what they did. I suppose the odds are there could be at least one who saw things differently. I was just surprised it was only one person on the ten counts.

[BumRushDaShow]

2. He still has to finish up Roger Stone and Julian Assange

Plus Carter Page still hangs out there (unless he was a plant). Cohen's potential cooperation with Mueller is still to come.

And now that they have Maria Butina, the whole NRA money-laundering scheme that funneled Russian $ into the various GOP PACs & the RNC during the election cycle, may come into play.

Still a whole lot to do before hitting the closest targets.

[kentuck]

4. The corruption is deep.

I think Congress should create a bi-partisan Committee to keep this investigation open, even after Mueller finishes his report. There is so much we still do not know.

[BumRushDaShow]

7. There definitely need to be MANY hearings

to cover things that the GOP refuses to look at. I.e., they have spent too much time yelling "Squirrel!!!111!!" and trying to go after Clinton and the FBI rather than gathering info to secure and harden our election system.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. RNC for one

[BumRushDaShow]

25. Yes.

The Broidy issue (along with Cohen as co-finance chairs of the RNC) needs some review, let alone the NRA connection to the RNC and funneling Russian money through themelves to the RNC.

[PatSeg]

26. Absolutely

Leave no stone unturned. Otherwise we will be playing whack-a-mole for years with the players who were not held accountable. We've seen this play out before as we're told we are "moving forward". All the people from the Bush years are still out there and are rewarded with television contracts, speaking fees, book deals, lobbyist jobs, and some even go back into government as if nothing happened.

If there are no consequences for unethical or corrupt behavior, there are no incentives to not repeat the same mistakes down the road. Just imagine if this current circus of clowns kept bouncing back. Anyone who takes that solemn oath to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution must be held to the highest standards and suffer the harshest consequences if they fail to do so. Otherwise, this is all for naught.

[mitch96]

3. I think Mueller is gonna knock off the pawns first,

then the knights, rooks, and bishops... The king will then fall over when his kids get indicted for crimes....
As said before, Mueller is playing 3D chess and tRump is playing a poor game of checkers...
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[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. Many people say

... something different because they are deluded.

Trump is a helluva poker player.

He got Mueller to play his best hands - in the middle of the dog days of August where nobody is paying attention.

Trump absorbs the Manafort and Cohen blows, lets the media and celebrities have their fun for now.

I predict after Labor Day, Thor's Hammer is going to drop.
8 posted on 8/22/2018, 1:59:47 AM by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GOAT POTUS TRUMP)

[mitch96]

9. Yup, deluded...

"He got Mueller to play his best hands"

Au contraire... He's playing the best of "Sun Tzu" greatest hits... tRump is all kinds of worried about the "collusion" when I believe it's the campaign money/tRump foundation misuse of funds that's gonna sink him..
In the Art of War by Sun Tzu he states "You can be sure of succeeding in your attacks if you only attack places which are undefended. You can ensure the safety of your defense if you only hold positions that cannot be attacked.".... So far Mueller has not tipped his hand much about the "collusion" that tRump is always attacking. The payoffs to the ladies will constitute illegal contributions and also the tax evasion (NYC, not fed) I think will sink him and his cabal...
YMMV,
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http://changingminds.org/disciplines/warfare/art_war/sun_tzu_6-2.htm

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Yeah. Don't forget Obstruction of Justice & the coverup & the espionage (revealing secrets). . . nt

[mitch96]

12. +1 n/t

[SharonAnn]

14. Trump may be a good poker player, but Mueller is a good chess player.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. Agree ..he's an Idiot Genius. Totally thought that the "Obama

was taping TT" was a brilliant ploy. Everyone, including Obama fell for it and assured him TT wasn't bugged. What did it do for him and his minions? They knew that they had discussed bad shit there. After everyone jumped to deny it they all slept better that night.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. Many tRumpLickers believe to this day that Obama personally ordered tRump Tower bugged. . . . nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

36. Yes. It was a double for Trump

[Cracklin Charlie]

6. Where on the board would you place Manafort and Cohen?

I think those are the knights. Cohen is one step from Trump, and someone released a taped conversation between Trump and Cohen, to make sure everyone knew it.

[mitch96]

11. "Where on the board would you place Manafort and Cohen?"

Minor players but important to the investigation... tRumps family are the knights/rooks and
Bishops... Knock them off and the king would go nuts and will fall.
Family is very important to him. Can you imagine what he will do if Don Jr/Ivanka and the other one got indicted and sentenced??? He would totally flip out..
Fill in the blanks how you want him to go out...

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[Cracklin Charlie]

16. Interesting.

Got me wondering.

Why are there no family members on an actual chess board? Serious question...I don’t know.

No princes or princesses, just the queen. She’s there for her power, I guess.

I still think Cohen and Manafort are more than pawns, like Papadopawhatever, and some of the others.

Cohen raid was a huge score for Mueller. That damn guy was bound and determined to monetize his relationship, and had his filthy paws in everybody’s pocket. He is gonna end up implicating a LOT of treasonweasels.

[kentuck]

19. A knight and a bishop

Manafort=bishop
Cohen=knight

[BumRushDaShow]

13. "I think those are the knights."

No (IMHO). Those 2 are still pawns. There are certain folks (some obviously family) who are much closer, including those whose names rarely get mentioned in the media like Rhona Graff or Keith Schiller. I.e., folks who knew where all the bodies were buried before Cohen and Manafort came on the scene (notably during the pre-election Russian connections/money-laundering era).

[mercuryblues]

17. Mueller is getting close

He started by cracking the shell. worked his way into the white and scrambled them up a bit. My guess is that he will poke around the traitor tot's (the kid's) associates to remove their layer of protection. Then he will move on the kids.


Will the kids rat each other out, fall on the proverbial sword or spill all about Dad? The order Mueller questions them may be very telling. Will he start with the most to lose; the most corrupt or the one most likely to talk?

Then he will expose trump.

[former9thward]

18. I have asked this before when you have put up the same OP but I will ask again.

Why would he subpoena Jared Kushner when Kuchner has already voluntarily talked to Mueller on two different occasions? After the last occasion he got the green light to get his secret security clearance back.

[dalton99a]

20. Or anytime later. I don't think Mueller cares about the so-called 60-day deadline

Because it doesn't apply - Trump is not on the ballot

[uponit7771]

21. About another year, I think this goes deep ... I don't think there's only one Russian red sparrow

[dalton99a]

24. +1

[SCantiGOP]

28. Kentucky: I was prepared to argue with you

From the thread title, I thought this was another fanciful “when will Mueller remove Trump from office,” which can’t and won’t happen.
But actions against Don Jr would likely cause Trump to cut his losses and do the “resigning for the good of my family” bullshit, take his Pence pardon, and get the fuck out of our White House.

[kentuck]

31. I don't think he ever wants to leave the White House ...

...ever.

[beachbum bob]

30. Next move isn't checkmate but it throw trump into full nuclear meltdown...

I'm expecting the mueller indictment bomb in coming days and then all hell breaks lose

[malaise]

35. As Ben_E King would say

Any day now!