John McCain is a person who deserves to lie in state under the Rotunda of the US Capitol

[Stinky The Clown]

[greatauntoftriplets]

1. That'd piss off Spanky.

[former9thward]

5. It would piss off most of the people on DU.

Judging from the countless posts accusing him of being a traitor and an incompetent who could not fly an airplane. I was one of the few who challenged those.

[EleanorR]

8. It would piss off trump supporters

They absolutely loath McCain

[JI7]

12. nope, most on DU defend mccain. most of the mccain hate is from trump

and other republicans

[former9thward]

27. Guess you had all the trash McCain threads on ignore.

You are ignoring most of the responses on this thread and pretending they don't exist.

[JI7]

58. i know they exist but nothing like the hate from republicans

deplorables brag about calling out internet posters but say nothing about the trash in the white house.

[Eliot Rosewater]

62. Someone, not you, is trying to use McCain to sow discord here. I am not surprised.

[PJMcK]

2. Nope (n/t)

[LandOfHopeAndDreams]

3. It's Going To Happen

I'd bet on it.

[bdtrppr6]

4. no

he was a hero, but a thick headed dumbass too.

[NightWatcher]

6. He's not dead yet, Jeez

[tavernier]

7. With everything going on in the country

should this be a discussion to further divide us?

I would most gladly honor any soldier or citizen who fought for our country under the Rotunda or anywhere else in our great nation.

[orangecrush]

53. AGREE

[lastlib]

9. I predict tRumpsky will lie in the Oval Office someday....

Oh, wait, he does that now, every day!

[guillaumeb]

51. A clear thread winner. eom

[calguy]

10. I have always respected John McCain

Being a republican, I hardly ever agreed with his positions, but I always respected him.

[Stinky The Clown]

14. Do you even hear yourself? Your sentiment is part of the problem.

Do you have any clue about how disgusting your sentiment sounds?

Do you have ANY clue about how honorable this man was when a POW? For that alone, he deserves it and for that is why I am saying what I said in the OP.

[gopiscrap]

25. Totally agree

[shanny]

38. Have other POWs received the same honor?

If McCain deserves it "for that alone" there should be others. And imo he doesn't.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/john-mccain-make-believe-maverick-202004/

"...his wounds were attended to only after the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a Navy admiral. What has never been disclosed is the manner in which they found out: McCain told them."

<snip>

“It was hard not to see how pleased the Vietnamese were to have captured an admiral’s son,” he writes, “and I knew that my father’s identity was directly related to my survival.”

<snip>

"...He could have come home, but keeping faith with his fellow POWs, he chose to remain imprisoned in Hanoi.

What McCain glosses over is that accepting early release would have required him to make disloyal statements that would have violated the military’s Code of Conduct. If he had done so, he could have risked court-martial and an ignominious end to his military career. "

[gopiscrap]

26. Thank you

[john657]

33. He was a hero for his service in Vietnam

and for that, he deserves our respect.

BTW, enjoy your stay here, for however long, or short, it is.

[john657]

48. He told them so he could get the medical help he so desperatly needed,

which anyone in his position would do.
His cellmate has nothing but the highest praise on how he conducted himself.

John McCain is a hero, despite what you say and the majority of the country, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, agree.

[john657]

52. That's your opinion, mine and the majority of the country have a different opinion. N/T

[xmas74]

36. Give a POW some respect.

They've been crapped on enough.And before you say anything else you might want to know my grandfather was a POW. I will defend them nonstop.

[john657]

41. Which makes you just as bad as the repubs.

[john657]

43. If you actually had compassion,

then you would have compassion for this former POW who served his country with distinction.

I stand by my words.

[john657]

50. His deciding vote to kill Trump's repeal and replace of the ACA,

his defense of President Obama at a campaign rally, there are several others, but google is your friend.

Haters will be haters.

[john657]

55. I'm sorry also,

I'm sorry you have such hate in your heart, it will eat you alive eventually.

[pintobean]

59. You're a real piece of

work.

[DrDan]

22. guess you didn't hear - he is not running for any political office

[gopiscrap]

28. but he has ... as a republican that alone makes him a worthless piece of shit

[gratuitous]

13. Right after Laura Sewell

Or Mike Titus. And the fact that virtually no American has any idea who I'm talking about is an indictment of our country and its fucked-up values.

[lindysalsagal]

15. Seriously, he really does. No joke.

It's the very least he deserves.

[Autumn]

16. I would rather he not. Many many Veterans deserve that and more.

A lot of Vets aren't getting what they need, many are homeless and do without. He got his rewards and honors, others haven't.

[Initech]

17. Agreed!

[backscatter712]

18. McCain did the right thing occasionally.

Even though I disagree with him 99% of the time, he's 1,000 times more of a gentleman than Trump could ever be.

[smirkymonkey]

56. You express my sentiments exactly.

Thank you.

[MoonRiver]

21. Yes he does, and I don't give a flying fuck what our idiot-in-chief thinks.

[DrDan]

24. agree 100% - as a vietnam-era vet, I have immense respect for him for what he went through

[irisblue]

29. Nope

John Glenn lay in state in the Ohio State House
Ted Kennedy lay in state in the Kennedy Library

Arizona State house should be just fine IMO.

[xmas74]

63. I wouldn't mind if he was used as a symbol

For all POWs. Maybe including in some way names,images,etc of other POWs,especially those who never made it back. I think he would be ok with it.

I disagreed with him on many things but I can respect him in that role: a very public POW whom the public can put a face on.

[irisblue]

30. Where is he going to be buried? nt

[Power 2 the People]

31. He should be honored for his military service

in Arizona.

[maxrandb]

32. As long as they don't embalm him first

So we can watch his corspe rot. It would match the smell coming from the rotunda.

He's a fraud. Staying silent during the Swift boating of Kerry when he fucking knew better is just one example of why he doesn't deserve this honor.

[backscatter712]

34. They're a thousand times nastier towards McCain in that Reddit cesspit r/The_Donald.

Shows how classy the fascist right is...

[shanny]

35. No.

If Arizona wants to do that for him, fine.

[edhopper]

37. I am not a fan

and think his Senate record is not a good one.

That said, he is a long time Senator who served without real scandal, as well as his military service makes him deserve this as much as any other.

Didn't Ted Kennedy lie in state?

[Demit]

60. The Keating Five was most definitely a real scandal.

Maybe you're too young to know about it?

[edhopper]

61. No, too old

forgot about that one.

[mulsh]

39. As my Bataan Death March surviving great uncle said of him "You're not supposed to get caught".

He and my two other uncles who were in Japanese and German prison camps had the same opinion of McCain's use of his POW status. I agree with them

Two of those great uncles lived with my family while they were dying of cancer, moving into VA facilities in the final stages. I've seen that first hand and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, even with the way more powerful drugs available these days.

Trump is an able politician who hired very good PR people to make his worst actions smell better, Keating 5, his military record etc.

That's about it as far as I can tell.

Of course he is exponentially more honorable, dignified, and decent that the current crop of republican pols.

Unless they ship the body east to be buried in Arlington he should lay in state for his former constituents in AZ.

[Brother Buzz]

46. If it sticks in the orange anus' craw, I'm all for it

That being said, this dumb draftee doesn't give a hoot one way or the other.

[davekriss]

57. Hats off to him for 2 things

I’ll never forget, during his Presidential run in 2008, when he took the mic away from a bigoted, racist woman ranting about Obama. He took the mic out of her hands and said “no, no” and added something like “he’s an honorable man”.

I’ll also never forget his dramatic thumbs down in front of traitor McConnell during the healthcare vote.

These, and other things, are there for us to honor in him. Yes, he’s Republican, so “honor” doesn’t go very far these days, but McCain is old school.

[backscatter712]

64. Him taking the mic away from that racist woman was his finest moment. n/t

[oberliner]

65. That's a really big deal

Very rare.