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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew Poll: 70% of Americans Support Medicare for All Includes 84% of Democrats and 52% of GOP
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Medicare for All is popular because the name is familiar, and many voters know that universal, state backed health coverage is the most efficient way to give healthcare to all. It is the most efficient because the profit motive is eliminated and capitalists cannot raise premiums to benefit themselves at the expense of everyone else.
SteveMO
(24 posts)Go Cynthia.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Social Security program will be under great duress as the top heavy Baby Boom generation ages. I think we should concentrate on more realistic goals that are legitimately attainable.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)It is a realistic goal, and attainable.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)The financial picture in 1929 was very bleak as well. FDR provided the answers.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)We will be lucky to keep the current Medicare and Social Security benefits as they are today. We do have an unprecedented age demographic challenge ahead of us.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)and allowing those who have little to lose what they have?
No, we need politicians and voters who realize that higher taxes on the rich and lower spending on war are the only way to fund programs needed by all.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Rich and decreasing Pentagon spending.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)The 1% are so rich that taxing them to fund Medicare for All would be an easy fix. Plus, the savings in healthcare spending from eliminating the billions skimmed by the insurance industry would be enormous.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)What has changed since ? We lost control of the White House and the Senate. I think Hillary would agree with me that this is just not politically feasible.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And what is politically feasible changes, often quickly.
infinite_wisdom
(73 posts)What needs to happen is a dramatic change in the way the government funds itself. Borrowing from private banks and having to pay back interest is going to end up killing a lot of people.
People like to say the government just "printed" money to cover the deficit, but that's not what they do. But maybe it would be better if they did. Just conjure it up and say it now exists and can be spent, and we don't have to be owe it back to anybody. The 500 billion dollars wasn't, but now it is because we voted to say that it is.
The only risk you would then run is inflation, devaluing the currency.. But there could be mechanisms put in a place to keep that from occurring.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Federal financing needs to be redirected. Most of what is called defense spending is spending to defend the empire and protect US businesses.
And as taxes on the rich have fallen over the last 50 years, the rich have gotten far richer, deficits at all levels have grown, and the bottom 90% are doing worse than they were in 1968.
al bupp
(2,182 posts)....expanded immigration, particularly for those under 40.
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(7,299 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)SS is an easy fix, if our leaders cared to make it so: remove the cap, and apply FICA to all income. Boom! Problem solved. But no, we shouldn't think about taxing the people with all the money, that would be unfair.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)I was referring to the unlikely chance of going to Medicare for all in such a financially tenuous environment.
shanny
(6,709 posts)or, more appropriately, our leaders wish to paint it that way. We can afford any damn thing we want to spend our money on. We can afford to increase the obscenely bloated "Defense Department" * budget by 60 billion more than the remarkably-greedy Pentagon requested without even a debate and only 8 Senators voting against.
The problem is priorities, not money. BTW, if we can't "afford" to educate our children (i.e. the future), maintain/improve our infrastructure, care for our sick and elderly, or provide for those who cannot provide for themselves, what exactly are we defending? I think we should all be asking that.
*we should really change that name back to what it was: the War Department. It is way easier to cut war budgets and rein in war profiteers than "defense" budgets/contractors.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Our population will be elderly top heavy. Europe and Japan are also facing this same age demographic anomaly.
shanny
(6,709 posts)I said "our leaders". The 8 Senators who voted "no" on the NDAA included 4 Ds, 3 Rs and 1 Independent. That doesn't absolve everybody else in government who whines about how expensive policies that actually give back to the general population are.
As for the aging Baby Boom generation this was planned for, and supposedly addressed, decades ago (are you old enough to remember when SS withholding went from 7.5% to 15%? In order to build up the infamous trust fund? I am). But don't let that get in the way of framing peddled by those who want to cut everything because we just can't afford it.
We can afford it. We have to get very clear on that.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)We will have to fight like the devil to keep republicans from cutting the current Medicare program and Social Security program as our population continues to age significantly. I did not claim that we cannot win that fight. I merely said that trying to achieve Medicare for All in that environment is not politically nor financially feasible. I am not some outlier in my beliefs. This was Hillarys position in the 2016 primaries BEFORE we lost control of the White House and BEFORE we lost control of the Senate.
Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)or how having more boomers on Medicare would make it more expensive to add others who are not age eligible for Medicare from joining its rolls.
msongs
(67,433 posts)Voltaire2
(13,109 posts)Did you have some point about polls in general or do you just not like the results?