Can We Also Get Rid of Caucuses in Large States?

[TomCADem]

Ignoring primary voters in Washington made no sense.

[Trust Buster]

1. Sanders is not going to let that happen IMO.

[question everything]

4. When will we finally accept the fact that Sanders is not a Demcorat, has never

been a Democrat, has actively campaigned against Democratic candidates, including wishing for someone to primary challenge Obama in 2012?

That his opinion should not matter to us one bit?

And that he should not run in our primaries and caucuses unless officially become a Democrat?

[Trust Buster]

6. I agree but he just successfully sacked super delegates.

[Garrett78]

8. Not really. They will still make public endorsements and vote on the 2nd ballot.

We'll be seeing a lot more 2nd ballots.

[question everything]

9. More than two years until the next Presidential convention

A lot of things can happen (using the Scarlett O'Hara excuse?)

I think that the results of the midterm elections, how many far left - Socialists, abolish ICE, etc - get to Congress can affect the decision.

Remember, it was the McGovern 1972 candidacy that brought the idea of the Super delegates.

[Jim Lane]

11. Absolutely! Anyone who voted for Sanders should be barred from the Democratic primaries.

That's the only way to ensure we'll have a suitably pure party in 2020. It's bad enough that 13 million people ignored all the sage advice they got on DU in 2016, but it's even worse that they haven't all been expelled by now.

Oh, and, while we're at it, let's note that the Vermont Democratic Party persists in supporting Sanders. Every single one of those traitors should be stripped of their office and barred from ever holding Democratic Party office ever again.

Our problem in 2016 was that we were saddled with those 13 million nincompoops. Once we tell them to fuck off, the road to the White House will be clear. Obviously we don't need any of them in order to build a winning coalition. What the hell, they're all racists and misogynists anyway.






Note to the low-reading-comprehension crowd, whose ranks seem to grow every week: This post is sarcasm.

[oberliner]

12. Good lord

That is insane.

[TheBlackAdder]

2. They just come across as some hayseed Let's Make A Deal political scam.

[question everything]

3. Yes, please

In Minnesota got the last laugh.

Delegates selected from the caucuses went on to state conventions to endorse candidates. But other candidates did not withdraw - as was the custom - and primary voters did have their win.

Put it that way - I don't mind the caucuses. They are an opportunity for members of the party to raise ideas and to propose resolutions. What I do want, from the candidates, is to stay in the race even if not endorsed and this year they did.

[tritsofme]

5. Caucuses should be banned altogether, they are undemocratic relics.

All Democrats should have the right to vote in a primary election with a secret ballot when selecting nominees.

[Garrett78]

7. It's up to each state but I do wish caucuses could just be banned.

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[Nevernose]

10. Superdelegates and caucuses should both be S-canned

Shitcanned, for those who bothered to read until they got to my potty mouth.

Democrats in virtually all states should also set the example in voter participation through primary elections through mail (eg Oregon) and incredibly easy states to vote in (like Nevada will be soon). Same day registration, preregistration for voters 16 and over? All would make a huge difference in turnout. What I’d REALLY like to see is a liberal state like California institute automatic voter registration. If you want an ID card, you’re registered to vote. No obligation for jury duty or mailing lists, but if you want to opt out of voter registration it should be HARDER than opting in.

Too many Dems are holding grudges against Hillary Sanders and Bernie Clinton, IMO. We’ve got elections to win. If getting rid of superdelegates gets more Democratic votes? Then what’s the problem? If there IS a problem, it’s that Democrats haven’t expanded the vote ENOUGH.

Call, write, and email your representatives, folks. Better yet, talk to them in person if you can. Instead of reading stories about vote suppression, we should be writing about voter participation.

(On edit: instant run-off voting, too, which would help liberals/Democrats more in the long run than vice/versa)

[TomCADem]

13. I can understand a caucus in a very small state...

...but in a larger state, caucuses end up being exclusionary and undemocratic. Not everyone can take the time off work and spend time at caucus. Thus, you have a major party nominee being chosen by a very unrepresentative slice of the Democratic party.