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highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 10:52 PM Aug 2018

Wow. Col. Morris Davis responds to news Trump rejected WH statement praising McCain

Tweeted 20 minutes ago by the former Gitmo chief prosecutor:






No sane and sober Veteran of the United States Armed Forces can condone the dishonorable conduct of the draft-dodging, Russia-enabling @realDonaldTrump ... shame on those who once wore the uniform and now facilitate a piece of trash.




He was responding to this Washington Post tweet/story:


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Wow. Col. Morris Davis responds to news Trump rejected WH statement praising McCain (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2018 OP
Col. Morris Davis is not exactly a paragon of virtue himself oberliner Aug 2018 #1
Very true. And when you lose a guy like that shanny Aug 2018 #3
Good point oberliner Aug 2018 #4
I looked him up. He seems like a stand-up guy. One of the few who spoke openly against torture. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #10
Have you read this? oberliner Aug 2018 #12
All the more reason some Republicans might listen to him, no? Beartracks Aug 2018 #29
my thoughts exactly elmac Aug 2018 #2
They're Republican, so they fall in line. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #9
I must respectfully disagree, or add a caveat proglib217 Aug 2018 #24
I respectfully disagree. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #25
Everybody loved li'l bush until '05, he was under 20% by '08. Mc Mike Aug 2018 #26
I wonder who leaked that? Cha Aug 2018 #5
I'd love to know. highplainsdem Aug 2018 #27
What. A. AwakeAtLast Aug 2018 #6
I'll Second That!!!! spanone Aug 2018 #7
Wow. That's pretty strong. I'm shocked to be seeing REAL tweets about the Orange One by military. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #8
Hope this is the first of MANY military brass responses NoMoreRepugs Aug 2018 #11
Traitor in Chief needs to stand down... HipChick Aug 2018 #13
This POS constantly amazes me with the depths to which he sinks. Totally Tunsie Aug 2018 #14
+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #19
CNN: Donald Trump is trying to turn the McCain death joke into a 'leak' scandal TomCADem Aug 2018 #15
...said the traitor and coward. Totally Tunsie Aug 2018 #16
. Achilleaze Aug 2018 #17
I hope the entire military turns against him FakeNoose Aug 2018 #18
+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #20
Shameful. Totally Tunsie Aug 2018 #23
Correction bjvom Aug 2018 #21
Donald J. Trump is a petty man-child... yuiyoshida Aug 2018 #22
Dayum Dem2 Aug 2018 #28
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. Good point
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 11:17 PM
Aug 2018

And yet there is a hard core group of Trump supporters who don't seem to know that even with everything he has said and done to this point.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. I looked him up. He seems like a stand-up guy. One of the few who spoke openly against torture.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 12:04 AM
Aug 2018

And then quit his job when they put two men above him in chain of command, who supported torture and had been involved in it at Guantanamo previously.

He was fired from a job at one point for writing personal opinion editorials against torture (during Obama's administration), then won back pay in a lawsuit over that. It was the Library of Congress who fired him...not Obama. He thought Obama should pursue criminal actions or other accountability over those who had used torture.

He's a pretty outspoken man. And I agree with everything I read about what he said.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
2. my thoughts exactly
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 11:13 PM
Aug 2018

yet, 2/3rds vets voted for him and will probably do it again. Did the same for George W.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. They're Republican, so they fall in line.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 11:53 PM
Aug 2018

They may sometimes hold their noses, though. The Repubs are more likely to give the Defense Dept money for equipment and raises. It's in their self interest. Most people vote for their self interest, I think.

 

proglib217

(88 posts)
24. I must respectfully disagree, or add a caveat
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 12:05 PM
Aug 2018

If people voted in their best interests, we would have 100 Democratic Senators and a Democratic majority of something like 450-85 in the House.

The caveat -- if we made it *knowingly* voted in their best interests it might be true. My guess is that most of those who vote against their own best interests are too uninformed to realize they're shooting themselves in the foot.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. I respectfully disagree.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:43 PM
Aug 2018

I've read this argument a few times about certain groups of people, but IMO, sometimes people who are saying that are not getting right what others' interests are. For example, if someone is evangelical, his best interests might be economical, or it might be upholding religious principles (like anti-abortion). Or a union worker may regard jobs as more important than union-backing. And the military might regard an ample defense budget as more important than the economy in general, religion, civil rights.

I grew up in a deep south area near Bible thumpin' rural people. They regard the economy as important, but they also regard upholding their values as equally important. Some do NOT want transgenders with penises in the bathrooms with their daughters, and they'll go to polls and vote specifically on that one issue. They really do feel that way. Or they'll go to the polls to vote against socialism, even if it means disrupting Social Security. I know it's nuts, but that's how they feel. (Some are also not educated or not too swift, so they will believe whatever their conservative leaders tell them. Case in point: the tax cut bill helps THEM.)

I've seen already in our local community FB group & FB pages of our Senators, bragging about the PAY RAISE they're going to give the military. The Defense Dept already got a HUGE budget in the Tax Cut Bill or the budget, whichever it was. So the military is going to vote for whoever is going to give them money, probably. And that's the Republicans. The Repubs are already spreading that message.

The Repubs are already talking about "a vote for Democrats is a vote for socialism." The base will go to the polls and vote against socialism. They won't equate that with hurting them economically. They simply don't believe that. And they would still vote against socialism (and other things), even if it meant it hurt them economically. There are exceptions, like coal miners, who are exclusively focused on the coal business.

I think Dems are more economically focused, as well as safety net social programs, and civil rights.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
26. Everybody loved li'l bush until '05, he was under 20% by '08.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:05 PM
Aug 2018

Nobody would admit voting for him, from '08 through today. No candidate asked him to stump for them in '08 '10 '12 '14 '16.

That shows how much his vet supporters backed him.

AwakeAtLast

(14,132 posts)
6. What. A.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 11:38 PM
Aug 2018

Petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty little fingered man!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. Wow. That's pretty strong. I'm shocked to be seeing REAL tweets about the Orange One by military.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 11:51 PM
Aug 2018

Good for him. Good for us.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
14. This POS constantly amazes me with the depths to which he sinks.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 12:59 AM
Aug 2018

Isn't there any bottom to his inflicting of indignities? There is no redemption for this soulless creature. "Sad."

If I were ever to meet up with him. I'd have a hard time not spitting in his ugly face.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
15. CNN: Donald Trump is trying to turn the McCain death joke into a 'leak' scandal
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 12:59 AM
Aug 2018

Remember a few months ago when White House staffers were joking about McCain dying soon and it was leaked. Rather than apologize, the White House and Fox News defended the comments by attacking the leaks.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/14/politics/kelly-sadler-mccain-white-house/index.html

(CNN)Last week in the White House, an aide to President Donald Trump "joked" that John McCain's opposition to CIA nominee Gina Haspel was largely immaterial because "he's dying anyway."

No one disputes that Kelly Sadler, the aide in question, said it about the Arizona senator, who is battling terminal brain cancer.

And yet, the Trump White House has refused to apologize for the remark, continues to employ Sadler and, in the most appalling twist, attempted to make the entire episode a parable of leaking as opposed to one of classlessness.

"The so-called leaks coming out of the White House are a massive over exaggeration put out by the Fake News Media in order to make us look as bad as possible," Trump tweeted Monday afternoon. "With that being said, leakers are traitors and cowards, and we will find out who they are."

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
18. I hope the entire military turns against him
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 10:23 AM
Aug 2018

The sooner the better. They already have so many reasons to hate him.







 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. +1000
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 10:46 AM
Aug 2018

Their hypocrisy makes me sick. There is always enough for wars and military hardware, but never enough for the people who have served. It's an absolute disgrace!

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