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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 08:54 AM Aug 2018

What kind of a poll did NBC/WS Journal do?

A poll that had a 46% approval for Trump seems absurd to me. Then, I looked at the numbers. I didn't have to look too far for the answer Here's the demographic breakdown; White 76%: Black 12%: Hispanic 7%: Asian 2%: Other 3%. Seems a little skewed to me.

Link to Poll:
http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/today/z_creative/18852NBCWSJAugustN=600FlashPoll.pdf

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What kind of a poll did NBC/WS Journal do? (Original Post) louis c Aug 2018 OP
Yep. Polls always have other numbers that people ignore, as in "who was polled". tonyt53 Aug 2018 #1
In theory you can adjust for that unblock Aug 2018 #2
I sent the polling organization an e-mail. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #8
42% Of Those Polled Were 55 and Over ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #3
And, isn't the Hispanic population NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #5
replying to myself NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #6
The Numbers I Was Using Are A Bit Unclear ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #10
WSJ is a Rupert Murderer property. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #7
But, NBC Isn't ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #11
+1 lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #12
that and how the questions are formulated/asked...nt 2naSalit Aug 2018 #4
They polled a 100 member non-representative sample. lapucelle Aug 2018 #9
538 rates this particular poll at an A- fallout87 Aug 2018 #13
538 rates Wall Street journal nbc poll a- Cicada Aug 2018 #14
They're trying to mirror the electorate rather than the country's demographics. jpljr77 Aug 2018 #15
That's still not representative of the poll louis c Aug 2018 #17
More corporate media normalization of criminal Republican behavior pecosbob Aug 2018 #16

unblock

(52,257 posts)
2. In theory you can adjust for that
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 09:01 AM
Aug 2018

The Hispanic population should be more like 17%, but you can weight the results to compensate. Don't know if they did that.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. I sent the polling organization an e-mail.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 09:24 AM
Aug 2018

It's - non-standard way of polling. They don't ask respondents if they're Hispanics. They have to volunteer the fact and the pollster goes from there.

The question should be are you

-white
-African American
-Hispanic
-Other

ProfessorGAC

(65,078 posts)
3. 42% Of Those Polled Were 55 and Over
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 09:03 AM
Aug 2018

50% were aged 50 or over.

In 2017, the median age was 38.1 years. So, this poll is not reflective of the age demographic in the country. 50% of the respondents were 12 years or more above the median age of the US.

The age detail shows 28.54% of the population being aged 55 or higher.

So, this poll over-represents that segment by 75.2%.

That's egregious.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. And, isn't the Hispanic population
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 09:15 AM
Aug 2018

somewhere around the same level percentage wise as African Americans - 12-13%? The poll only had 7%

ProfessorGAC

(65,078 posts)
10. The Numbers I Was Using Are A Bit Unclear
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 10:10 AM
Aug 2018

It shows 17.1% in 2017, but that is "Hispanic of Any Race". So, there are black latinos counted in that number.

The numbers suggest that you might be onto something there., though.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
14. 538 rates Wall Street journal nbc poll a-
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 10:19 AM
Aug 2018

Poll averages are more accurate than single polls. By chance alone single polls will bounce around several percentage points.

jpljr77

(1,004 posts)
15. They're trying to mirror the electorate rather than the country's demographics.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 10:51 AM
Aug 2018

I think it's a bit misleading, since the headlines make it out to be overall approval. It really should be "Presidential Approval Among Voters."

In 2016, the demographic breakdown of the electorate was:

70% white
12% black
11% hispanic
4% Asian
3% other

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
17. That's still not representative of the poll
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 11:33 AM
Aug 2018

and you can expect the 2018 electorate to be more minority, female, younger and less white.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
16. More corporate media normalization of criminal Republican behavior
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 11:00 AM
Aug 2018

Whether you can see it or not (if you're blind for example), they're all carrying water for the Rs.

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