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Different Drummer

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Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:36 PM Aug 2018

As Trump struggles, his allies point to...Al Capone?

Source: MSNBC.com


Earlier this month, Donald Trump declared via Twitter, “Looking back on history, who was treated worse, Alfonse Capone, legendary mob boss, killer and ‘Public Enemy Number One.’ or Paul Manafort, political operative & Reagan/Dole darling, now serving solitary confinement – although convicted of nothing?”

It wasn’t altogether clear where the president was going with the comparison, and the closer one looked at the argument, the less sense it made. Nevertheless, Trump apparently planted a Capone-related seed that continues to grow. In the hopes of defending the president, NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch has even turned the notorious gangster’s name into a verb. Media Matters highlighted her latest pitch:

“The moral argument over the president’s infidelities would never result in legal trouble. So they believe they have to take a lesson from the Clinton years and find a way to make it a legal problem. And that’s exactly what they’re using campaign finance for, an already unconstitutional set of laws to pull it off.

“They’re trying to Al Capone the president. I mean, you remember. Capone didn’t go down for murder. Elliot Ness didn’t put him in for murder. He went in for tax fraud. Prosecutors didn’t care how he went down as long as he went down. The same goes for Democrats. Whatever avenue is needed to bring down the president, they’ll take it.”

Putting aside the question of what any of this has to do with the NRA’s ostensible agenda, I think I see where Loesch is going with this. Donald Trump is facing a wide variety of serious allegations, and his alleged campaign-finance-law violations seem less dramatic than some of the more alarming possibilities. She’s therefore drawing a parallel: just as Capone was busted for tax evasion instead of murder, Trump may face campaign-finance accusations instead of charges related to cooperation with the president’s Russian benefactors.

More at: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-struggles-his-allies-point-al-capone

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As Trump struggles, his allies point to...Al Capone? (Original Post) Different Drummer Aug 2018 OP
Perhaps Trump identifies with Al Capone. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #1
So are they saying that Capone's tax evasion wasn't a crime, or The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #2
This is not an accurate comparison BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #3

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,743 posts)
2. So are they saying that Capone's tax evasion wasn't a crime, or
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:44 PM
Aug 2018

that because it's not as serious a crime as murder he shouldn't have been prosecuted at all? Should Trump not be accused of the lesser offense of campaign finance violations because he shouldn't also be accused of the greater crime of conspiracy with the Russians? None of this makes any sense at all.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
3. This is not an accurate comparison
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:50 PM
Aug 2018

to me since he said he would release his taxes BEFORE he was falsely elected. There was no "witch hunt" since we did not know his crimes with Russia and everything else. If he released his taxes he wouldn't have been elected most likely and all the crimes he committed since, like obstruction, would never have come under incestigation.

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