Really evil people are very rare.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

"Evil" is an absolute. You can think of it in religious terms if you are so inclined - an evil person is someone for whom there is no redemption - or else you can define it as lacking in any positive attributes. But I don't think there are very many people who are truly evil under either definition. Almost everybody has at least a few good qualities, even if they behave like assholes most of the time. And everybody has bad qualities, too, even if those qualities appear only rarely. All of us sometimes behave in ways that might be called cowardly, selfish, arrogant, lazy; or in terms of the seven deadly sins: Pride, anger, gluttony, sloth, lust, envy, and greed. Sometimes they behave this way often, and people who do are what we might call assholes. But are they evil? Probably not.

But then there's Donald Trump. It's been obvious for a long time that he's an asshole; I think he's actually evil. He seems to have no good qualities at all. In religious terms there is no redemption for him; he doesn't think he's ever done anything wrong. To be forgiven for your sins (redeemed) you have to admit to them, which he never does. In secular terms, there seems to be nothing good about him at all. He doesn't seem to love anyone, even his children, who are valuable to him only to the extent they reflect positively on him. He doesn't have any friends that we know of; he only has hangers-on and dodgy business associates, guys like Cohen and Pecker. He treats women like party dolls, and like used Kleenex when he's finished with them. His entire business model since the '70s is based on deception and fraud. He has no loyalty to anyone although he expects absolute loyalty from everyone.

He doesn't give to charity; he doesn't like animals or children; he doesn't go to concert or plays; he doesn't appreciate nature; he's a glutton and a slob; he's inconsiderate toward everyone who works for him, vicious and cruel toward those whom he dislikes (and he dislikes anyone who doesn't show loyalty toward him); he's perpetually angry and utterly self-centered, demanding to be the center of attention at all times. He's peevish, petty and mean and he lies like most people breathe. He has no redeeming qualities at all that I've ever seen any evidence of.

Is he evil? I've never seen anyone quite like him, and I hope I never do again.

[dalton99a]

1. And he constantly wants to hurt Americans - it gives him joy

An American president who can't wait to take healthcare away from poor Americans at every opportunity - he wants them to suffer and die.

An American president who can't wait to jack up the cost of living for working Americans to impoverish them.

The list goes on

[Doreen]

3. Yes, he wants to hurt Americans but is worse than that

as he wants to hurt everyone all over the world.

[leftieNanner]

2. I like your analysis

I cannot see any redeeming qualities in this man either. He also does not appear to have a sense of humor - which is huge in my book. I think if he ever does laugh - it would only be at the expense of another person.

[yonder]

18. For a couple of years now, I've been on the lookout for a photo of him laughing.

Not a smirk or that stupid Cheshire Cat grin/gurn, but a laugh or guffaw.

I've not found one yet.

[3catwoman3]

20. He doesn't laugh. He sneers and...

...leers. Unless he's meeting with Russians.

[2naSalit]

31. Then he blushes!

[smirkymonkey]

4. Thank you for your post.

You have described him perfectly.

I do believe he is evil because he seems to get some kind of sadistic joy out of hurting and humiliating people. There is absolutely NO goodness in him whatsoever. I don't think he has ever committed one act of kindness in his life. He is completely devoid of human compassion and only exists to inflict pain on his perceived enemies (which is just about everyone).

The man is a waste of oxygen. I look forward to reading his obituary.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

30. a definition of evil

My own definition of evil: to cause harm to another living being for personal gratification. See, e.g., dirty little Donny TrumPutin.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

5. Interesting; I don't see him as evil so much as profoundly broken.

He is clearly a person full of fear and hatred, but I see him more as an animal that's been cornered its entire life, looking for a way to somehow get ahead or on top. Never loved and unable to love, he desperately wants connection without having any idea how to foster it. So all he knows is domination and deceit. He just keeps lashing out because that's all he's ever known.

[Calculating]

7. Trump is sin incarnate

He literally checks off every single one of the seven deadly sins. He's not some poor misunderstood guy who got a a bad deck of cards in life. Even when he tries to do the right thing he goes about it the wrong way, and you get the feeling he's only doing it to feed his ego or look good.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

9. I do hope my post didn't come across as sounding like I think he's a "poor misunderstood guy."

What I'm saying is I don't think he wakes up in the morning and tries to think of ways to hurt people. He tries to think of ways to make himself feel good, and doesn't care if that hurts people, or tells himself it doesn't actually hurt them. It's a terrible way to go through life, but I see it more passive than the concept of evil. In addition, using the term "evil" IMO makes it easy to dehumanize someone, which is something I try to avoid. We all have our own takes on understanding it, of course.

[2naSalit]

33. He isn't broken, he's diseased...

a mental illness with which he entered this world. I know people like him, they just aren't wealthy. It's an illness that he has no control over, he does wake up from sleeping - whenever that is - with the intent to do harm because that's all he thinks about because there can never be enough praise in the world for his satisfaction.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. That could be an explanation for his behavior.

But the problem is that the outcome is evil. And there is always the question of why someone turns bad (or is bad) - many people have had terrible childhoods and grow up to be fundamentally decent people, even if impaired in some way. I don't think there has ever been a definitive explanation of the causes of sociopathy, which is what we seem to be dealing with in Trump. Sociopathic behavior often begins in childhood, and Trump was no exception. Even in elementary school he was known as a bully and a behavior problem; when he was 5 or 6 he was caught throwing rocks at a neighbor's baby in a playpen. By the time he was a teenager he had become so unmanageable that he was sent off to a military academy. Trump's siblings apparently didn't turn out to be sociopaths (we don't hear much from them; one became a federal judge), so why was he so bad?

I had a discussion with a psychiatrist who was struggling with basically the same question: Is he mad or bad? It seems that some people are just bad, and we don't know why. I think Trump is one of those people.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

11. Your last paragraph is helpful to me.

He's definitely both, in the very least. I tend to resist the term "evil" because of the religious connotations it carries.

[luvtheGWN]

22. I've often had the discussion about whether people are

inherently good or inherently bad. I lean towards the latter because one has to be taught as a toddler to be kind, to be generous, to be unselfish. tRump either was never taught, or even at such a young age was angry and resentful that he couldn't just be himself (just as Velveteen described).

However, I'm not wedded to the "born bad, taught to be good" theory......

[hunter]

82. I think it's the other way around. Curiosity and empathy are innate to humans.

Kids with horrible parents have their innate curiosity and empathy beaten out of them.

"Born that way" sociopaths are rare. The proof is all the people who have suffered absolutely horrific childhoods yet still grow up to be decent people.

[uponit7771]

62. +1, he doesn't have the reasoning of exposure to good either. There's been enough people around him

... and he has enough money to be exposed to all kinds of spectrum of human behavior.

[luvallpeeps]

52. Have to agree with you here.

There is something profoundly sad and sick about him. His constant need to be adulated, his inability to show real compassion. Misunderstanding everything along the way. I honestly pray for this man. We tend to want to pray for those people we love. Trump types probably need it more. He is to be pitied more that hated, really. God help us all. He brings out the worst in everyone, and stokes that hate. We need to protect our own psyche from his constant meanness. I sometimes have to mute the tv when he's on. It sometimes scares me to think he has the nuclear codes. How in the hell did this nightmare even happen?

[JI7]

54. Taking kids away from their Parents , calling for execution of innocent black people

he is evil . people who are broken may not care but he goes out of his way to be cruel just for the sake of it.

[Cha]

58. trump is Evil and so are his followers.

I don't use the epithet lightly.

[lark]

66. Excuses, excuses. Everyone is responsible for their own behavior.

His dad may have been a monster, but he could have learned from it instead of emulating the KKK evil. He could have learned when he was at school instead of paying others to take tests for him or getting C's or Ds, but he didn't care to. He was a rich kid and that was always enough for him, he never sought anything higher, never grew because he was so comfortable he thought this was the end game. Others in this situation would see the opportunities for personal growth or to help others - this never occurred to him because he hever cared for anyone but himself, he's a sociopath. He is truly evil because he chose to be that way, he took daddies sins, added a huge dollop of ignorance and stupidity, added the sins of Roy Cohn and that was his place and all he cared about was defending it. When his stupidity caused him to start losing everything, he went full in on evil and criminality with money laundering and attending child rape parties, again his evil dysfunctional choice because all that's left of him is evil and greed.

[Stuart G]

6. Yes, He is evil. He never stops. I've never seen any politican like this. k and r

.

[moondust]

8. K/R

[digonswine]

12. I like your description-

He is not evil. That would be giving him a motivation. He is a nothing person. In all of the ways you describe. Nothing to recommend him. There is nothing there but some lizard brain motive. I don't believe in evil-but at least evil has a goal. He just reacts. He is the perfect amoral example of natural selection(sorry Darwin!). He has nothing and is nothing. Unfortunately, he is our nothing for now. I can't remember who said it--imagine the worst person you have ever known or met, and is now the president. If this was some guy on the street, I would feel bad for him. His internal world must be a void. A nothing. For all of my life, I will never understand it, except, unfortunately, I do(racism). Populism is a disease, it would appear.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

23. I am going to print and save your post.

Your analysis is brilliant. Perfect. I've struggled to approximate what motivates him, and you are right - he has no motivation, just reaction, like the most base microbe.

[VOX]

13. Central Casting couldn't have sent a better Antichrist.

That “man” is an open channel to all things dark, illegal, and dangerous to all humankind.

Why can’t his supporters see through his tissue-paper-thin act? I read an alarming story in the NYT recently, in which all Trump-backers interviewed openly acknowledged that he was a titanic asshole, shouldn’t separate families, etc. BUT, still they back him. They like him (and who knows why?).

Are Americans even more racist now? Apparently so.

[ProudLib72]

14. Have you seen the movie Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer?

That's a difficult one to watch, but it gives insight into truly amoral behavior.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099763/?ref_=nv_sr_1

In twenty years I think we will see a movie about Rump that is similar.

[MariaCSR]

15. KICK AND FUCKING REC

EXCELLENT analysis, I agree with every word! You should publish this.

[malaise]

16. Seriously

He is a monster - a vile cretin -ignorant , uncouth, racist, misogynistic, unethical, corrupt, criminal, mean, cruel, contemptuous, arrogant, self-absorbed, offensive and I just got started.

[SammyWinstonJack]

59. Thin skinned, petty, vindictive, vengeful. The list goes on.

[malaise]

72. On and on and on

and on.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

83. Vulgar, ugly, cottage-cheese-assed-exposing-it-in-white-tennis-shorts,

ugly, immature, piss-colored hair, pig-eyed (sorry, actual pigs), shlumpy, leering, tantrum-haver, smelly, nauseating, vengeful, uglier than a zit on a turd, petty, skeevy, sleazy, unstable, smelly, not a genius, incurious, face-you’d-like-to-punch, anus-mouthed, ugly, Fugly, loathsome, smelly.

[yardwork]

17. Half the country thinks he's just like them. Ponder that.

It's not Trump who bothers me. He's just one person. It's the millions of Americans who admire him. That's what keeps me up at night.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

19. Yes, it's become a cult.

But we've seen that before, where a charismatic leader manages to convince people that he's some kind of messiah, and even though he's corrupt and even violent and abusive, his followers are absolutely loyal. Think Jim Jones and David Koresh and any number of other cult leaders, but on an enormous scale. Trump has managed to tap into the worst impulses of a whole lot of people, and when he's gone (and someday he will be gone) I don't know how they will react, or whether they can be deprogrammed.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

35. scared

Where'd you hide the microphone? While commiserating about some news last night, I mentioned David Koresh and my wife immediately responded with Jim Jones.

Those crazies who thought they were going to heaven in a spaceship after group suicide were also mentioned.

And now... I'm thinking none of the notorious suicidal cults in our history had a messiah with nukes.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

38. The spaceship crazies were the Heaven's Gate cult.

The MAGAts are obviously far more dispersed and less controlled, but their behavior is cultish in the sense that they blindly believe whatever nonsense Trump and Fox feed them. It is scary.

[trickyguy]

21. I think you've got Trumper figured out pretty well. No redeeming qualities.

Total self-absorbed douche bag. And I'll put my vote in for the "evil" side of him.

[slumcamper]

24. EVIL.

[Javaman]

25. Read this and decide...

Dark triad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

The dark triad in psychology refers to the personality traits of narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy,[1][2][3][4] which are called "dark" because of their malevolent qualities.[5][1][6][7]

Research on the dark triad is used in applied psychology, especially within the fields of law enforcement, clinical psychology, and business management. People scoring high on these traits are more likely to commit crimes, cause social distress and create severe problems for an organization, especially if they are in leadership positions (for more information, see psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism in the workplace).

All three dark triad traits are conceptually distinct although empirical evidence shows them to be overlapping. They are associated with a callous-manipulative interpersonal style.[8]

Narcissism is characterized by grandiosity, pride, egotism, and a lack of empathy.[9]
Machiavellianism is characterized by manipulation and exploitation of others, a cynical disregard for morality, and a focus on self-interest and deception.[10]
Psychopathy is characterized by continuing antisocial behavior, impulsivity, selfishness, callousness, and remorselessness.[11]
A factor analysis carried out at the Glasgow Caledonian University found that among the big five personality traits, low agreeableness is the strongest correlate of the dark triad, while neuroticism and a lack of conscientiousness were associated with some of the dark triad members.[10]

[slumcamper]

27. EVIL.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

36. I'm familiar with the dark triad, and it fits - but we still don't really know

why some people are like that. Those characteristics start showing up in childhood, and not always in dysfunctional families. Conversely, people raised by awful parents don't usually become psychopaths or are otherwise irreparably damaged. Where does it come from?

[Javaman]

65. Birth.nt

[PearliePoo2]

77. Yep!

I firmly believe some people are born with their brains just wired wrong. It's a physical defect in my opinion.

I have two nieces that are fraternal twins. From the time they were infants they could not have been more different.

One was/is cunning, manipulative, selfish, a liar and greedy, starting when she was a toddler and she figured out how to con people. And she still has these traits to this day as an adult. The fact that she is physically very attractive made it easier for her to pull it off.

No one in the family wants anything to do with her, including her mother who has now also written her off.

The other twin is the exact opposite. Caring, friendly, trustworthy and generous. They were raised in the same environment in a stable family setting.

I don't believe there's any care or therapy that can help or fix the "bad" twin. None.

[ecstatic]

41. Thanks for sharing. I had not heard of this before.

It sounds like the perfect description of trump.

[Bradshaw3]

49. Thanks for posting

I think many of us are trying to understand what is going on with this miserable excuse of a human being known as our current president. This is good information.

[Pacifist Patriot]

64. I waffled on narcissism verses psychopathy with him for years, but came to believe...

when he announced he was running for president that the scales tipped towards psychopathy with him. Now I think he's the poster child for it.

[TwistOneUp]

74. Dark Triad

Nuts-on personality analysis of Cheetolini. Nuts-on.

[trickyguy]

26. His bombastic style and ability to entertain them at others expense is what his supporters like.

They don't care about all the really important details that the POTUS should have.
They just get a charge out of all his bad qualities because that's what they can relate to.

[RedSpartan]

28. I'm not sure Trump is evil.

The world’s biggest asshole, maybe.

Mitch McConnell, on the other hand, I do believe is evil. It’s the only way I can even begin to understand him.

[C_U_L8R]

29. Please keep this

for Trump's epitaph. As much as I hope to forget that magat... future generations need to recognize evil and never let it take root again.

[dalton99a]

45. They could update this to say "Evil":

[Demonaut]

32. I thought this exact series evaluating his character...at the very

beginning but it's only recently understanding his lack of friends and how he treats his children does
the picture become complete, he's a monster

[Miles Archer]

34. I blame Fred...evil asshole's going to raise an asshole son

Granted, human beings have free will. It would have taken more free will than Donald Trump possesses to have not taken the $1,000,000 from Fred, to not have scurried off with his Rolodex to make all of those contacts, to savor the initial fruits of being Fred's son and decide that he didn't want more, more, more.

He has no redeeming qualities, it's true. His "gift" seems to be that he can lie, cheat, and manipulate, and SOMEHOW, that casts a spell over not only the people who voted for him, but before that, also the people who bought his books, watched "The Apprentice," ordered his steaks from Sharper Image, "enrolled" in Trump "University," and basically swallowed the whole mess as if it were nectar from the gods.

Can't pretend that I "understand" any of it. I just know what I've seen, and yeah...there IS a sucker born every minute (at least).

[Bradshaw3]

50. Even someone as awful as Fred had to send him to military school

He was even too much for that bigoted asshole.

[Ponietz]

37. A psychologist friend who does Social Security evaluations told me

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He has a personality disorder with three components:
-Narcissistic
-Histrionic
-Antisocial

[herding cats]

39. It's called Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

If you have someone close to you who has it, you recognize it immediately.

A quick checklist:

1 Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment by others.

2 Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.

3 Self-perception of being unique, superior, and associated with high-status people and institutions.

4 Needing constant admiration from others.

5 Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others.

6 Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain.

7 Unwilling to empathize with others' feelings, wishes, or needs.

8 Intensely jealous of others and the belief that others are equally jealous of them.

9 Pompous and arrogant demeanor.

This is Trump.

They're selfish, angry jealous bullies who think they're deserving of more, always. Nothing is enough for their voracious egos. They're never appreciated properly in their minds for their imagined greatness, and they compensate for it by tearing down anyone vulnerable to make them feel bigger.

I don't know what textbook "evil" is, but they're extremely bad and dangerous. They literally gain joy from hurting others when they need a boost to their ego.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

42. Definitely, but how did he (or anybody) get to be that way?

That's what I can't figure out, and apparently the shrinks don't really know either. NPD is pretty much the definition of an evil personality, and it certainly doesn't ultimately make your life any better if you have it, but apparently it's incurable (they don't think they have a problem and anything that goes wrong is someone else's fault). We don't know what causes it and we don't know how to get rid of it. If I were religious I'd figure it was some sort of demonic possession and make an appointment with an exorcist, but I don't think it works that way.

[herding cats]

44. I endured one.

Years of therapy later I still can't explain their thought process. The best I can do is tell you their symptoms and that they're toxic and enjoy causing harm. Mine had not a clue one there was a thing wrong with them. How could they? In their eyes they were better than everyone else.

I'm a kind and deeply empathetic person, but when I see those traits to this day my blood runs cold. I'm not religious, but if I'd were I agree with you, I could see it labeled as their version of classic evil. Except, a large section of religious people are blind to Trump's apparent disorder. Which leads me to believe it's more in flux definition than what the literal concept would lead us to believe.

[Calculating]

48. From a religious perspective it's not about demonic possession so much as free will

Our free will is an incredible gift, but it comes with great potential for harm if we choose wrong. We're constantly bombarded with internal thoughts or 'voices' as one might say, which are good/bad/evil/just plain weird. It's sort of like those cute cartoons with the angel and demon on your shoulders. In a cruel twist, it's usually easier to take the path of least resistance and follow the 'evil' thoughts telling you to lie/cheat/steal/fan the flames of fear/and generally exploit the game. The true test of one's worth as an individual is to consistently chose the 'good' option despite the difficulties/uncertainties in doing so.


As I view it there are four main types of 'bad' personalities:

-The 'damaged' individual who was never taught right from wrong properly, or was dealt a rough hand in life. These people aren't evil so much as they are to be pitied. With a bit of help there's potential to reform them into a better person.


-The weak individual who simply takes the path of least resistance. These are the people who just cannot resist the temptations in life and make bad choices because it's easier. They aren't necessarily sadistic/malicious, but they hurt others around them and ruin their own lives through their lack of self control and disregard for consequences. These people can also be reformed, but THEY need to summon the will to change first. Examples are alcoholics/drug addicts/other people with addictions/scammers who just cannot resist it/shoplifters/general theft/etc.


-The Narcisists and sociopaths: Somebody else in this thread mentioned narcisistic personality disorder and how it fits Trump. They're spot on IMO. Trump is basically a text book example of narcisistic personality problems. These people are selfish, don't think beyond themselves, and shamelessly manipulate/hurt others to get their way. Everybody else is a tool to be used furthering their own greatness and reputation. These people can possibly change, but they need to really have a revelation and realize that it's NOT ALL ABOUT THEM. Sometimes that can happen through either finding religion or the use of psychedelic drugs.


-The Sadist: These people are the very worst humanity has to offer. They don't hurt others because it benefits them or distracts them from their own pain. They do it because they ENJOY IT on a fundamental level. These people CANNOT be reformed, and either need to be locked up or executed depending on what you deem morally acceptable. They willingly chose to hurt others because they love it, and nothing will change that. Sure they might lay low out of fear of societal consequences, but make no mistake they'll stab you in the back the first chance they get. If you're religious/spiritual these are probably the people you would consider to be EVIL. If not, you'd probably consider them to be mentally disturbed psychopaths. Examples include the obvious serial killers, rapists, murderers, torturers, etc.

Now to the point finally, which is WHY people fall into these groups. It simply comes down to whether or not you have spiritual beliefs.
-YES: Then you can attribute their behavior to what happens when people give in to temptation and fail the 'test of the soul' that our world is, or willingly embrace evil.
-NO: If you're an atheist then you'll just assume they're mentally ill either due to being born that way or problems with their upbringing.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

68. I keep coming back to the "why."

If the explanation is a spiritual one, why do most people exercise their free will to do the right thing, at least sometimes if not always (since we are all sinners)? And why do some others - the people we call narcissists and sadists - exercise their free will to do bad things? Why do they choose to embrace evil? If that's the choice they have made, how does it benefit them, ultimately? Is being evil, if that's what we call it, making Trump happy? He sure doesn't seem like a happy man. Of course, his choice to be evil had worked out well for him as a businessman, and he was happy because he was making money and crushing his adversaries, which made him feel good. But now that he's president, that choice isn't working out so well because he has constraints preventing him from crushing his adversaries, and he's being criticized in a way that he has never experienced before. If he willingly chose evil it's turning out to be a bad choice for him.

[Calculating]

70. There are a variety of different spiritual explanations really

It sort of comes down to the whole yin and yang thing. For light there's darkness, for creation there's destruction, and for good there's evil. We all hold the potential for both within us (that's what makes us so incredibly special. We're not just some hivemind insect like ants without free will. We can choose to either be heroes, villains or something inbetween), and it's up to us to be unselfish and choose the option which results in the most good for ourselves AND others even if it results in short term pain.

Evil choices usually result in short term happiness, but turn out poorly in the long run. Even if you don't believe evil people will go to Hell or something like that, they still usually die alone and bitter in the end with a life full of regrets.

[ecstatic]

40. He's unscrupulous, without morals and without understanding of how normal

people process the world. If he understood how normal people process the world, he wouldn't be so open about his unscrupulousness. He thinks and acts like a criminal but he doesn't know that that's not normal behavior.

[Totally Tunsie]

43. Add vindictive and petty. n/t

[workinclasszero]

46. I can't necessarily define evil

But I know it when I see it.

Trump is pure evil from the top of his head to the bottom of his blackened, pea sized soul.

[Whiskeytide]

47. Great analysis. Insightful. My only...

... confliction with what you posted is your use of the term “loyalty”. To me, loyalty connotes some degree of honor on the part of the person giving it, and a sense of worthiness on the part of the person receiving it.

I briefly searched for another term - perhaps fealty or even omertà. But I didn’t see either of those as fitting. trump demands obedience to him, whether you think he’s right or wrong. He commands those around him to do what he expects without question. That’s more servitude than loyalty.

But otherwise you are spot on. I’m really posting here to bookmark it. Thank you.

[Bradshaw3]

51. One of the best summary analyses I've seen of him

And that includes opinion pieces by writers in some of our best media. Thoughtful, well-written and truly spot-on. Great post.

[sprinkleeninow]

53. The woman/man in the street sees a pathology.

Causing the subject to exhibit certain behavior. Which can be described and viewed as evil, sadistic, etc.

Is it possible for someone such as this to be rehabilitated/redeemed? Christianity believes it is possible. It would require a severe act of humility/of being humbled.

It's not in my department or skillset. Just saying. * causes profound distress in my soul.

I have prayerful belief for a resolution of some kind. What that will be, I have no clue.

'We' are strong together. I want to believe invincible and victorious.

💙🇺🇸🌊

[MFM008]

55. He is 'Mr. Potter'

In "Its a Wonderful Life".
Scheming, cruel, vendictive.....

[Guilded Lilly]

56. You have written a definitive description of a truly wretched person....

And are spot on.

[ansible]

57. Oh, he sure loved children alright

Though probably just Ivanka

[Afromania]

61. That last picture is disturbing to say the least.

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[Calculating]

71. GAG

There's something 'very' unwholesome about his relationship with Ivanka.

[Afromania]

60. Spot on, the dude is a living void,

[Pacifist Patriot]

63. You're describing a psychopath.

I've been saying from day one he's a textbook case of psychopathy. Meaning I don't think he is biologically/physiologically capable of being anything but evil as you frame it.

I sincerely think he would score extremely high on the Hare Psychopathy Checklist.

[maddiemom]

67. And he doesn't READ, never has.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

69. He's a malignant narcissistic sociopath. That's kind of evil by my standards. . . . nt

[TwistOneUp]

73. Unless...

You look in the ranks of the "leaders" of the fundagelical / rw churches. Lotta evil there.

[Lee-Lee]

75. No, they are more common than you think. The difference is

most never rise to anywhere near this level of power and influence.

But there are a whole lot of people just like him, but who were not born into money. They will in a heartbeat rob you, harm you, do anything they need to get what they want.

The difference is most of them end up eventually locked up away from society or dead from their actions. And until that point they damage a lot of people along the way but one by one in ways that get little or no attention aside form the people affected.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

78. Maybe, but I'm wondering how many of the people who have done terrible things

and are probably in prison or dead are/were terrible all the way through instead of mentally ill or chemically dependent or just fucked up but not completely irredeemable. My point was that people who have absolutely no good in them at all are not very common. I've known some awful assholes but all of them had at least a few decent characteristics. My SIL, for example, is a textbook narcissist and I can't stand her, but she likes animals and donates to charity and as far as I know has never committed a crime. I've been watching politics for decades and I've never seen anyone as utterly bad, with no good qualities at all, as Trump - not Bush, or Cheney (as very bad as he is), or even Nixon. He seems like one of a kind. At least I hope so.

[Lee-Lee]

81. In my experience probably 30-40%

But none of the 3 things are mutually exclusive. People who are true evil often are drawn to hard drug use because it makes them feel good, and feeling good is all that maters. But absent the chemicals dependency they still would act in ways to harm people anytime it helped them achieve their ends.

Likewise for mentally ill. Those paths often cross but the person is not mentally ill to the point they are incapable of knowing right from wrong. They understand it they just don’t care or they develop their own worldview that justifies whatever they want.

In law enforcement a small segment of the population are 90% of your arrests. And they are over and over and over and over. Because they know better, but they just don’t give a damm.

[Eyeball_Kid]

76. That's Trumpy in a nutshell. n/t

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

79. We have a man that has spent his life acting like he's better than everyone else.

putin got ahead of him and is holding some deeply troubling information on him.
1. He shot someone or killed someone in his long self-centered life. (or really hurt someone or many people)
2. They have photos and video of him in very compromising situations.
3. they have some compromising stuff on him and his number one daughter. Maybe kodachrome to memorialize it.
or a list of similar things.
Bc he's so GD vane(SP)? Vain(?), he cannot fathom the world knowing about it and being humiliated or criminally charged, and he will do anything ANYTHING to make sure it doesn't come out. Including evil and crazy things. I think all of it boils down to this. His fetish w his hair is a perfect example of how much he thinks of his "image". Rich people run wild off the chain. Most people have no clue how wild that can get. When you're running wild, people can get bad stuff on you and you wouldn't know it until its too late. Drugs, alcohol, money, freedom, no rules. Spent his dads money like it was his own till, but, even that started to run out. (imagine that). And he lied about how much money was there bc wo the money, he's nothing.
Couple all of that with a position now where he can pamper himself w a big jet, pay himself to golf, boss people around w the full force of American law, advertising for the name trump...it's all pretty obvious. That's why the Steele Dossier bothers him so much, it's a peak behind the curtain of a life of riotous greed and ruination. There are a lot of people like this. Few fall into the presidency. He didnt win fairly, he had others cheat for him. That too is another reveal he's trying to hide.

[Scurrilous]

80. K&R

[ThoughtCriminal]

84. There 62,979,636 (alleged) adults in the United States

Who envy him. That too is evil.