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Serena Williams told not to wear her "Black Panther" catsuit - So she showed up in a tutu. 💯 (Original Post) kpete Aug 2018 OP
a tutu with sparkles Sanity Claws Aug 2018 #1
right on! bigtree Aug 2018 #2
How was her old outfit considered a black panther suit. It was just a catsuit. I really SweetieD Aug 2018 #3
Serena Williams said the 'Black Panther'-style catsuits she wears to play make her feel 'like.. demmiblue Aug 2018 #8
In her fulk statement she said she felt like a queen from wakanda not black panther. SweetieD Aug 2018 #15
movie, not party? Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2018 #24
I think you're confused RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #29
None of the warrior women in Black Panther wore that suit RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #30
it can be gender bending as well. But I think being sleek black and powerful makes it a tribute to bettyellen Aug 2018 #35
I liked the movie RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #41
I am not really a comic fan but in the "Black Panther" comic the character's sister "Shuri" BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #55
I agree with you. Since Trump, I don't trust these rich white a-holes. C Moon Aug 2018 #79
You guys make me feel old. panader0 Aug 2018 #59
Trailer for the Black Panther movie - if you get a chance, check it out on - good and fun movie. iluvtennis Aug 2018 #76
You go, Serena! MineralMan Aug 2018 #4
OMG... she is awesome! demmiblue Aug 2018 #5
"She has to show respect for the game" MagickMuffin Aug 2018 #6
Screw that Lotusflower70 Aug 2018 #51
Winning 23 grand slam titles is what shows respect for the game. CrispyQ Aug 2018 #7
Not always. Lance Armstrong won a bunch of Tour de France races while cheating mythology Aug 2018 #32
Not Sure The French Open Rule and The US Open Thing Works ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #9
Oh, she respects the game, all right. planetc Aug 2018 #10
She also used hard work and natural talent mythology Aug 2018 #34
Love it. K&R JHan Aug 2018 #11
You can buy that outfit yourself for only $500. Mosby Aug 2018 #12
Good for her! Aristus Aug 2018 #13
The French Open President can stuff their concept ... Guilded Lilly Aug 2018 #14
She kicks butt, no matter what she's rockin'! spicysista Aug 2018 #16
Indeed, she the GOAT. iluvtennis Aug 2018 #77
I love this so much... ismnotwasm Aug 2018 #17
This is awesome! mcar Aug 2018 #18
She wins the entire damn day. nolabear Aug 2018 #19
Since the outfit was for medical reasons to prevent clots she should fightthis in court. Liberty Belle Aug 2018 #20
Obviously her health isn't as big of an issue as was claimed sarah FAILIN Aug 2018 #26
If she chooses not to follow medical advice gollygee Aug 2018 #50
If you look closely she is wearing dark brown compression tights GreenEyedLefty Aug 2018 #52
Never, ever, ever Codeine Aug 2018 #62
No, you're missing part of the story Boomer Aug 2018 #67
LOVE her .... LenaBaby61 Aug 2018 #21
That's so great superpatriotman Aug 2018 #22
Looks like Bernard stepped in a whole lot of dung. LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #23
I love her! AllyCat Aug 2018 #25
Avec elan! Anon-C Aug 2018 #27
snort!!!!!! niyad Aug 2018 #28
Is this what they objected to? Duppers Aug 2018 #31
I saw a shot of her TlalocW Aug 2018 #48
She looks like some Marvel Hero Character in that shot, they should've let her wear it uponit7771 Aug 2018 #49
They did from what I understand sarah FAILIN Aug 2018 #57
No Velcroed flap in the back? Marcuse Aug 2018 #80
Watched the French open. Serena wore the catsuit for two weeks and no one said sh*t about it iluvtennis Aug 2018 #78
Question for tournament officials... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #33
It would depend on the dress code rules. I doubt catsuits are allowed. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #37
Yes, I agree and I'm old fashioned regarding decency. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #42
IIRC, Serena has worn something like a catsuit before. July Aug 2018 #81
2002 US Open. July Aug 2018 #82
The catsuit she wore this time was at the French Open, I think. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #84
I found out today something about that. sarah FAILIN Aug 2018 #58
Sarah, then you're saying this type outfit does violate their dress code? KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #61
Actually, not exactly sarah FAILIN Aug 2018 #68
Thanks for those clarifications. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #71
You're welcome sarah FAILIN Aug 2018 #73
LOL, that reminds me of... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #74
Wimbledon and the French Open are Codeine Aug 2018 #63
As long as it's within the dress code, it's fine. The catsuit was not w/in the code, apparently. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #36
I think her catsuit provides compression Ilsa Aug 2018 #53
And in Wimbledon, the outfit has to be mainly white. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #56
The catsuit was within the code fishwax Aug 2018 #69
I don't have a problem with dress codes. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #70
Love This To Death Me. Aug 2018 #38
Leave the woman alone for chrissakes Submariner Aug 2018 #39
I don't get why the "catsuit" is objectionable. LuckyCharms Aug 2018 #40
Maybe this fetching outfit is more like they had in mind? nt procon Aug 2018 #43
Shame On You For Subjecting Up To That! smb Aug 2018 #45
It's such a classic, I couldn't resist! nt procon Aug 2018 #46
... Scurrilous Aug 2018 #47
The important "bits" were covered, right? Totally Tunsie Aug 2018 #44
She's hilarious! 😆 BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2018 #54
Best "FU" EVER! VA_Jill Aug 2018 #60
Love this! peggysue2 Aug 2018 #64
God, she's glorious!! ailsagirl Aug 2018 #65
they should be happy she'll bring more viewers AlexSFCA Aug 2018 #66
What idiot thinks they can tell this powerful woman efhmc Aug 2018 #72
I love Serena for the stances that she takes. GOAT of women's tennis - u go girl! nt iluvtennis Aug 2018 #75
OK, girl you rock. n/t malthaussen Aug 2018 #83

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
3. How was her old outfit considered a black panther suit. It was just a catsuit. I really
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:10 AM
Aug 2018

Dont like that the author added that little embellishment. It is not funny to me.

demmiblue

(36,893 posts)
8. Serena Williams said the 'Black Panther'-style catsuits she wears to play make her feel 'like..
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:18 AM
Aug 2018
Serena Williams said the 'Black Panther'-style catsuits she wears to play make her feel 'like a warrior princess'

Serena Williams romped to a straight sets victory over Kristýna Plíšková in the 2018 French Open on Tuesday.

It was her first major tennis match since triumphing at the 2017 Australian Open while eight weeks pregnant— and she won while wearing a "Black Panther"-style catsuit that made her feel "like a warrior princess" from Wakanda, the fictional nation from the Marvel Comics film.

The outfit was more than a fashion statement as it is designed to help prevent blood clots, according to The Guardian.

But it also has the added advantage of making Williams feel like a superhero from "Black Panther."

https://www.businessinsider.com/serena-williams-felt-like-a-warrior-princess-at-french-open-2018-5

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
15. In her fulk statement she said she felt like a queen from wakanda not black panther.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:46 AM
Aug 2018

Black panther is a man. They could have easily called it a warrior princess outfit or a queen outfit . She was not trying to look like Black Panther.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,437 posts)
24. movie, not party?
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 12:56 PM
Aug 2018

I kept racking my po' lil brain trying to remember if the Black Panthers had uniforms back in the '60s. Didn't know there was a movie.

Maybe the French Open prez would prefer Serena show up in an 1890s outfit, barefoot, pregnant, and bowin' an' scrapin'.

Can we stop regressing yet?

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
29. I think you're confused
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 01:19 PM
Aug 2018

Black Panther is a Marvel comics superhero. A movie came out last winter that was a huge hit. That’s what this is about.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
30. None of the warrior women in Black Panther wore that suit
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 01:22 PM
Aug 2018

All the article is trying to say is it looks like the suit from the movie.

If Serena dresses like the women in Wakanda when they fought, they’d be even more apoplectic.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
35. it can be gender bending as well. But I think being sleek black and powerful makes it a tribute to
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 01:31 PM
Aug 2018

The spirit animal. Have you seen the movie? It fits to me.
It’s very empowering and political more than having to do with any gender.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
41. I liked the movie
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 01:47 PM
Aug 2018

I agree with you. I don’t understand what the poster is objecting to. The suit may have been worn by a man but there’s nothing wrong with a woman saying she could identify with it while still maintaining a feminine persona as a queen instead of the king.

BumRushDaShow

(129,510 posts)
55. I am not really a comic fan but in the "Black Panther" comic the character's sister "Shuri"
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 05:55 PM
Aug 2018

is in the royal line to be Black Panther should something happen to her brother and apparently in the Marvel comic's "Black Panther Vol. 5" series of comics & storylines, she did become Black Panther when her brother (T'Challa) was incapacitated-

panader0

(25,816 posts)
59. You guys make me feel old.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 06:55 PM
Aug 2018

I've never heard of the movie, but I remember well Huey Newton
Bobby Seales and Eldridge Cleaver. 'Soul on Ice' by Cleaver was
required reading back when.
Go Serena!

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
51. Screw that
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 05:18 PM
Aug 2018

To old white dude that said that about Serena. He needs to show respect to her because she is the game.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
32. Not always. Lance Armstrong won a bunch of Tour de France races while cheating
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 01:29 PM
Aug 2018

That said, the people making the decision about her clothing are idiots.

ProfessorGAC

(65,191 posts)
9. Not Sure The French Open Rule and The US Open Thing Works
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:21 AM
Aug 2018

The US open didn't try to tell her what to where. That was Roland Garros that did that.

I do think the French Open folks were silly, but this seems to be lumping the Flushing Meadows folks into the same pile.

planetc

(7,837 posts)
10. Oh, she respects the game, all right.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:21 AM
Aug 2018

The question is, does anyone besides her opponents respect her?

She has used the rules of the game to master it and dozens of opponents.

And the president of the French Tennis Federation didn't like her outfit? How many tournaments has the prez won? Eh?

Do spectators turn out to watch the prez seated in his or her box? No?

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
34. She also used hard work and natural talent
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 01:30 PM
Aug 2018

Serena Williams is a beast. She didn't rules lawyer her way to victory.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
14. The French Open President can stuff their concept ...
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:39 AM
Aug 2018

of femininity up their tight ass, wrapped in a tutu.

Serena rules.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
20. Since the outfit was for medical reasons to prevent clots she should fightthis in court.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 12:31 PM
Aug 2018

It's about more than just how it looks, and the tutu while an in-your-face jab back at the idiot French officials does not resolve her health problem.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
26. Obviously her health isn't as big of an issue as was claimed
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 01:00 PM
Aug 2018

A tutu dress is far from what she claimed she needed medically.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
50. If she chooses not to follow medical advice
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 04:57 PM
Aug 2018

that means she's willing to take chances to play the game, not that it isn't medically necessary.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
52. If you look closely she is wearing dark brown compression tights
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 05:31 PM
Aug 2018

and sleeves. She also wore them at Wimbledon.

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
67. No, you're missing part of the story
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 10:49 PM
Aug 2018

Serena clearly stated that she had found other ways to deal with her medical issues. She's wearing compression tights as well as the tutu.

LenaBaby61

(6,977 posts)
21. LOVE her ....
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 12:48 PM
Aug 2018

Hang in there Serena. Here's to hopefully bagging #24 and tying Margaret Court

#THISMOM

TlalocW

(15,391 posts)
48. I saw a shot of her
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 04:41 PM
Aug 2018

Where it looked like she had on what one considers "normal" female attire for tennis - a white shirt and skirt, and the "catsuit" over it. Any see-through-osity of the suit showed the normal outfit, just pressed against her body. I didn't get what the big deal was.

TlalocW

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
57. They did from what I understand
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 06:43 PM
Aug 2018

This whole brouhaha is because a future event, the French Open, said it would not be allowed there.

She is just trying to sell these suits imo. I have worn similar and never will again because you have to get almost totally naked for a potty break. If you have gotten even slightly sweaty, heaven help you getting it back on.

iluvtennis

(19,874 posts)
78. Watched the French open. Serena wore the catsuit for two weeks and no one said sh*t about it
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 01:05 AM
Aug 2018

until two weeks ago. She fills those arenas, let he wear what she wants.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
33. Question for tournament officials...
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 01:29 PM
Aug 2018

What if she had worn a white or pink catsuit?

Love the statement she's made......

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
37. It would depend on the dress code rules. I doubt catsuits are allowed.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 01:36 PM
Aug 2018

Tennis rules go back to the "game for ladies and gentlemen" days, so the dress code is pretty rigid, I think. I don't view that as a problem. It's the game that counts.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
42. Yes, I agree and I'm old fashioned regarding decency.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 01:54 PM
Aug 2018

So long as the rules are not discriminatory or unreasonable. And, we must show respect for other cultures and their norms when we visit their lands.

For the sake of good journalism, HuffPo should have provided at least a summary of the applicable dress code......

July

(4,751 posts)
81. IIRC, Serena has worn something like a catsuit before.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 10:12 AM
Aug 2018

I think it was at the US Open several years ago. I believe it was black and form-fitting but didn't have long sleeves or full leg coverage.

July

(4,751 posts)
82. 2002 US Open.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 10:21 AM
Aug 2018

There's an article at vox.com about criticisms of the Williams sisters' appearance that has a picture of what the caption calls a "short catsuit." Sorry, couldn't link it because I'm technologically challenged, but it's dated 8/28/18.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
84. The catsuit she wore this time was at the French Open, I think.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 04:03 PM
Aug 2018

It's confusing, but they all have different rules.

I think the French Open didn't have a rule against "catsuits," in particular, but is adding that to the rules, after this. They don't have a rule against everything anyone might wear, since some things aren't foreseeable, and there's a general caveat about showing respect for the event and such, I'm sure.

Whatever. I don't have a problem with dress codes. I worked with dress codes for decades, working for professional law firms & going to court (as a trial paralegal). Then at school back in the day that girls couldn't wear dresses (now that was stupid & sexist...it gave the boys lots of opportunities to see up your dress). But dress rules are a minor thing to me. So minor.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
58. I found out today something about that.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 06:49 PM
Aug 2018

The woman people keep tossing into this conversation that wore a white catsuit to Wimbledon back in the 80's was actually told to change for the rest of her game and never wear it again. People made fun of her pretty bad for wearing it. If she was told to change, nobody has room to complain imo.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
61. Sarah, then you're saying this type outfit does violate their dress code?
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 07:52 PM
Aug 2018

That's what I would look at first. Regardless of what we say, Serena certainly should have been very familiar with the code and willing to follow the rules prior to any games. If an outfit was questionable, she or her team could ask the officials before play.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
68. Actually, not exactly
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:16 PM
Aug 2018

She is currently playing at the US Open the way I understand it. I don't think they have a problem with it this year. The people complaining about it are with the French Open and are saying it will not be allowed on their courts when Serena comes there to play. Their courts, their rules which we have not even gotten to yet. For all we know, Serena may have a perfectly acceptable to dress code outfit ready for the French open. People are just borrowing trouble that may not even exist at this point from the way it sounds to me.
Where this white cat suit comes in is that there is is a meme going around claiming that nothing was done to the other woman who wore a white cat suit to Wimbledon and it brings up racial accusations paired with outright lies. Honestly I feel like if I put this text on here, I would get deleted. Anyway, these people are saying Serena as a player has been banned when it is really just these catsuits.

Here is the link to the story of the reaction to the other woman. People are comparing the reaction to both catsuits and claiming nothing was done about this one because the lady was white and that is not true.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
71. Thanks for those clarifications.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:51 PM
Aug 2018

I wish her well and will be checking the news from Europe next year. Not a big fan of tennis but my ears perk up when I sense some form of prejudice in the air. Don't think that's the case here and as you said, the concern is very preemptive.

Here's an updated take on the situation: https://nypost.com/2018/08/25/why-serena-williams-may-get-french-opens-catsuit-ban-lifted/amp/

.........

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
73. You're welcome
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 12:21 AM
Aug 2018

I also wish her well and good health.

I was sidetracked and forgot to add this link to the story on the white catsuit, which points out how unbearably hot they are. My problem with them is going to the bathroom.. just try getting those things back on if you are slightly sweaty.

[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1985/06/29/bodysuit-bites-the-dust/e602f07d-2402-44ca-98f2-76f65326566b/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a6593c1cd0b8|].

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
74. LOL, that reminds me of...
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 12:53 AM
Aug 2018

1.) the dust suits I used to wear in my work inside very hot industrial systems and they stuck to my skin like glue, and

2.) now that I'm retired, I have some great long rubber gloves I put on to wash our dishes. But, just to get them on and off, I have to first put baby powder my dry hands (envision a 70YO man with big long pink gloves, LOL).

I would guess they need assistance (and perhaps powder) to get those suits on and off as well.

Have a great Wednesday!.....

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
63. Wimbledon and the French Open are
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 08:01 PM
Aug 2018

entirely separate events. What happened at one thirty-plus years ago doesn’t mean much at the other now.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
53. I think her catsuit provides compression
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 05:33 PM
Aug 2018

to avoid blood clots. I think she should get a doctor's prescription for it.

Otherwise, she will need to wear those compression leggings under her tennis skirt. Those are not very attractive, either.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
56. And in Wimbledon, the outfit has to be mainly white.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 06:06 PM
Aug 2018

All the tournaments have dress rules. Pro tennis comes from the Country Club/aristocratic set way back when, when dress for everything was strictly regulated, informally or formally. Some of those rules still exist, for the purpose of keeping it classy, I think.

They don't always have to wear skirts. It depends on the tournament and location.

Catsuits are pretty revealing and not especially classy, IMO. Although wearing those short skirts is sexist and flashes everything to the world, so... I don't care what they wear.

Catsuits look very uncomfortable to me. Something tight like that sequeezing your whole body. Like a long legged girdle.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
69. The catsuit was within the code
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:26 PM
Aug 2018

Serena wore the catsuit at the French Open. It was fine, and did not violate any dress code.

The other day an interview came out in which the director of the French Open said that next year there will be a code because Serena's outfit (among others, but he called hers out specifically) went too far.

Serena shrugged off the controversy and wore the tutu to an entirely different tournament--the U.S. Open, which, like most tournaments these days, does just fine without a stuffy dress code.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
70. I don't have a problem with dress codes.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:35 PM
Aug 2018

Never have. Just like when you go to church or court, yu are supposed to dress "respectfully." It adds to the decorum and shows respect for the place and the event.

Submariner

(12,509 posts)
39. Leave the woman alone for chrissakes
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 01:43 PM
Aug 2018

With all the crapola going on in the world, were all still here, so let her play her game the way she wants.

It wouldn't be stuffed shirt white men doing the bitching about a cat suit, would it?

Yeh, I thought so...

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
64. Love this!
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 08:09 PM
Aug 2018

Shows spirit, confidence and a sense of humor. As far as respect for the game? With the number of wins Serena Williams has under her belt, I think the game owes her respect.

Awesome!

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