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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:11 PM Aug 2018

I am 72. I want to say this to younger voters.

On All In on MSNBC tonight there was a discussion of what would happen if we do not retake the House.

We could not only lose Obamacare but also
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, protections for LGBTQ citizens, women’s ability to choose and anything else the Repubs have on their wish list.

Trump will never face the courts for any of his illegal doings.

Being 72, I don’t think the rest of my life would be impacted by these things.

I have never missed an election in my life. I won’t miss this one.

Younger people’s lives will be seriously impacted if we lose this opportunity.

Voting in November for the Democrats, any Democrat, is probably the most important thing we can do for ourselves.

Forget about left, right, center. To hell
with labels like socialist or establishment.

That does not matter in this election.

Don’t even talk about it here.


WE MUST REMAIN UNITED!

Vote in November for Democrats as if your life depended on it because it does.

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I am 72. I want to say this to younger voters. (Original Post) wasupaloopa Aug 2018 OP
+100000000000 Hoyt Aug 2018 #1
Agreed aikoaiko Aug 2018 #2
I agree "WE MUST REMAIN UNITED." This country's future depends on it. Stuart G Aug 2018 #3
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dave in VA Aug 2018 #4
Great post malaise Aug 2018 #5
71 and agree 100%. K&R. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2018 #6
Great post, upaloopa Hekate Aug 2018 #7
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #8
70 here and couldn't agree more. mountain grammy Aug 2018 #9
Election pamdb Aug 2018 #10
Very well said. ooky Aug 2018 #11
71 here and bluestarone Aug 2018 #12
Midterms or we die.... Heartstrings Aug 2018 #13
Just turned 65, and never missed an election. Thank you for your post! tonyt53 Aug 2018 #14
Same here. I vote every chance I get. calimary Aug 2018 #31
70 here and agree totally! Stonepounder Aug 2018 #15
63 and agree! SCVDem Aug 2018 #16
K&R for the clearest and most succint post I've seen in a long time! dchill Aug 2018 #17
good list of what we will lose.... if we lose in nov pangaia Aug 2018 #18
I agree with you. I did not want to make my post too long. wasupaloopa Aug 2018 #21
LOl.. Good idea, too.. it would just be too depressing... pangaia Aug 2018 #26
Absolutely agree! peggysue2 Aug 2018 #19
Hear hear! defacto7 Aug 2018 #20
Agreed 100% benld74 Aug 2018 #22
Do or Die, GOTV, everyone. Lose 'excitement,' 'apathy' issues! appalachiablue Aug 2018 #23
Time to roll up our sleeves to get everyone out Jarqui Aug 2018 #24
75 and still up for a good fight! pazzyanne Aug 2018 #25
Absolutely. The young ones have the numbers stopwastingmymoney Aug 2018 #27
Yes, it is ESSENTIAL tosh Aug 2018 #28
K&R smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #29
I'm 74 and I totally agree. kskiska Aug 2018 #30
As a 27 year old ZeroSomeBrains Aug 2018 #32
yep. ++++ JHan Aug 2018 #44
+1000000 Kahuna7 Aug 2018 #60
71 here and I couldn't agree more. I sent a text to family and friends Arkansas Granny Aug 2018 #33
we need to talk to millenials Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2018 #37
Well said!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #34
I'm 60 and I agree.... mudstump Aug 2018 #35
From an 80 year old grandma -- BarbD Aug 2018 #36
Also 72 perspective recovering_democrat Aug 2018 #38
Women having control over when and if to have children is an ingrained wasupaloopa Aug 2018 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author proglib217 Aug 2018 #45
Today while visiting my 84 year old parents my mom said she never missed voting BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #39
Well said! This is for our kids and grandkids FakeNoose Aug 2018 #40
Same Age bluestateboomer Aug 2018 #42
We damn sure better see commercials with that theme Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #43
I'm 72 also. Lugnut Aug 2018 #46
Just turned 67 yesterday duforsure Aug 2018 #47
Belated BD greetings, doforsure! BlueMTexpat Aug 2018 #63
I am 70 today. murielm99 Aug 2018 #48
Happy BIrthday, murielm99! BlueMTexpat Aug 2018 #62
Thank you! murielm99 Aug 2018 #66
Indeed it does! jimlup Aug 2018 #49
Excellent post. Vinca Aug 2018 #50
I'm 61 and I always say I don't worry for me but for the younger generations blueinredohio Aug 2018 #51
K&R redstatebluegirl Aug 2018 #52
We will prevail! IluvPitties Aug 2018 #53
One More Thing DownriverDem Aug 2018 #54
I'm 51 years old - even when I was in high school NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #55
I'm 66, and I agree entirely. Nitram Aug 2018 #56
I'm 64. No words were ever truer. Young people, you just don't know.... Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #57
#VoteBlueNoMatterWho Danascot Aug 2018 #58
+1000000 Kahuna7 Aug 2018 #59
I am 74! BlueMTexpat Aug 2018 #61
Mark my words: If Russia hacks this election , if voting machines turn RED instead of Blue... yuiyoshida Aug 2018 #64
Yes, yes, yes!!!! karin_sj Aug 2018 #65
It's not Red vs Blue or Republican vs Democrat. TrishaJ Aug 2018 #67
Vote as if your life depended on it, BECAUSE IT DOES! MoonRiver Aug 2018 #68
@71 what he said. usaf-vet Aug 2018 #69
I am 38 crazycatlady Aug 2018 #70
I'm 68 and my sentiments are exactly the sameas yours calguy Aug 2018 #71
ANYBODY who thinks they'll never need Social Security and Medicare needs to think again!!! BamaRefugee Aug 2018 #72
Vote now or forever hold your vote. Because if the GOP has its way, Neema Aug 2018 #73
I'm 72 also marehare Aug 2018 #74
Approaching 73 and in total -- even furious -- agreement RVN VET71 Aug 2018 #75
K&R! Omaha Steve Aug 2018 #76
👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Meowmee Aug 2018 #77
Bravo! Yes!!! Our country is at stake. Duppers Aug 2018 #78
Well said ToTheStreets Aug 2018 #79
What wasupaloopa said!!! ladym55 Aug 2018 #80
I'm 77. I endorse this in spades! trof Aug 2018 #81
Sadly, if young people don't vote, they will reap the whirlwind mainer Aug 2018 #82
Yes, Ma'am. TomSlick Aug 2018 #83
Great thread lordsummerisle Aug 2018 #84
Well said . Could not agree more. Enoki33 Aug 2018 #85

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
3. I agree "WE MUST REMAIN UNITED." This country's future depends on it.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:28 PM
Aug 2018

Democrats will put a check on crazy Trump.....................and republicans who do not stop him..
.... We must as a country have that "check on him" for the next 2 years. Yes..

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
10. Election
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:39 PM
Aug 2018

I am 67 and totally agree. I don’t care if the democrat is a socialist democrat or a conservative democrat or a middle of the road democrat. As long as they have a D after they name, I’ll vote for them. I want not just the House, but I want the Senate as well. And then I want that orange monster AND pious Pence, out of the WH.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
13. Midterms or we die....
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:42 PM
Aug 2018

Simple as that!

Great post! Wish I could give it more recs!

GOTV!!!!! Vote like your life depends on it!!!!!

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
15. 70 here and agree totally!
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:47 PM
Aug 2018

Add climate change to the list of things that Trump is trying to accelerate in the name of profit.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
16. 63 and agree!
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:50 PM
Aug 2018

We fought too hard for this country, lost too many sons and daughters ......

I could see being invaded by a real military and losing in battle. This is bullshit!

We are surrendering without a fight. Veterans don't like that!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
18. good list of what we will lose.... if we lose in nov
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:54 PM
Aug 2018

But that list also barely scratches the surface...unfortunately..

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
19. Absolutely agree!
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:55 PM
Aug 2018

Shoulder-to-shoulder is what we must do, regardless of age or where we find ourselves on the Dem spectrum. This is the election of our lifetimes. No wiggle room, no time for cat yowling. Unless that yowling is united, pitched to the only note worth hearing, the one that slams it out of the park in November.

That's how we win and save the damn country!

appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
23. Do or Die, GOTV, everyone. Lose 'excitement,' 'apathy' issues!
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:07 PM
Aug 2018

As Paul Krugman wrote 3 days ago,

"if Republicans retain control of both houses of Congress in November — we will become another Poland or Hungary faster than you can imagine."

Krugman, "Why It Can Happen Here," NYT, Aug. 28, 2018.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016214547



On the Blue Wave, EW and All!

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
24. Time to roll up our sleeves to get everyone out
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:08 PM
Aug 2018

With the gerrymandering, GOP cheating and Russian trolls hacking, an overwhelming effort is needed.

pazzyanne

(6,555 posts)
25. 75 and still up for a good fight!
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:10 PM
Aug 2018

Nothing can keep me from voting this year. I'm voting blue to protect my nieces, nephews, great nieces, and great nephews. They are the ones who will be most impacted by this horrible administration and their policies.

stopwastingmymoney

(2,042 posts)
27. Absolutely. The young ones have the numbers
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:16 PM
Aug 2018

They have the power to make big change, if only they will seize it

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
32. As a 27 year old
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:50 PM
Aug 2018

I completely agree. This election will decide how much of the safety net and rule of law will remain. It may not be important for a lot of people my age but one day they won't be able to ignore it any longer when the true horrors of this administration comes into the light. Stay strong to all and let's take the house and the senate!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,346 posts)
37. we need to talk to millenials
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 12:00 AM
Aug 2018

A troubling report posted here on DU:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/poll-millennials-disillusioned-about-midterm-elections-n904436

Poll: Millennials disillusioned about midterm elections
The candidate quality that matters most to millennials' vote in November is someone who can bring about change, according the NBC News/GenForward survey.
by Stephanie Perry / Aug.29.2018 / 3:31 AM ET

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Somehow us old folks have failed to get youngsters fired up. Only 55 percent say they will "probably or definitely vote" and they're split as to whether they're favorable or unfavorable toward the Democratic party. They need the OP's message.

mudstump

(342 posts)
35. I'm 60 and I agree....
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:57 PM
Aug 2018

We have to help everyone get to the polls. If you don't have a car....carry them on your back.

38. Also 72 perspective
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 12:21 AM
Aug 2018

I am also 72. I struggle with fears for the future if my son and grandchildren and his different this country is becoming it its ignorance on too many historic and political matters.

I am a woman. My adult son does not object to pro-choice philosophically but I never realized until this year's political conversation with him that even very open minded men rarely understand pro-choice as women do. When I finished talking to him (in the presence of my younger granddaughters. He admitted he finally realized WHY it matters to me.

I hope it changes and all our fears are removed. But it still matters that we speak out with our experiences. Best wishes to you for a fine comment.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
41. Women having control over when and if to have children is an ingrained
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 12:40 AM
Aug 2018

part of our culture now. It takes two people working to afford a decent living and to raise a family.

By planning parenthood we shape our whole lives now. To go back to the days of no birth control or no choice or no planning is what the right is wanting.

Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #41)

BigmanPigman

(51,592 posts)
39. Today while visiting my 84 year old parents my mom said she never missed voting
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 12:31 AM
Aug 2018

In every single election from the smallest local ones to the presidential. I guess it was ingrained in me since I have never missed any either. I went to the STOP KAVANAUGH protest last weekend and saw only a dozen millennials there and that was disappointing. But I felt better today when I read that the mayor of NY and David Hogg (the Parkland School student who advocated for gun control just voted for the first time in FL) are working together to register people to vote. The Parkland students who had the March For Our Lives gun control rallies also had Vote For Your Lives rallies across the US this Summer. I wish more younger people would realize how their futures are going to be greatly effected by the Nov election.

Yesterday I started a postcard writing campaign with a neighbor through the ACLU to hand write postcards to send to registered voters in our state who did not vote in the last election. We nave to do whatever we can. I am making more buttons by hand to give away to people who like mine. Talking to people, even strangers, is easy and anyone can do it.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
40. Well said! This is for our kids and grandkids
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 12:40 AM
Aug 2018

We oldsters may not be affected so much, just as you say Wasupaloopa.

But our kids and grandkids will have their lives torn apart. Hell there won't even be a country for them, when they get to be our age. (Many of us on DU are baby boomers, so we've reached retirement age already.) We have to find a way to make the under-30 adults realize how important this election is. This is no time to say "Well I don't like her" or "He's not liberal enough" or whatever.

The Republicans need to be smacked back to hell where they came from, and then we have to slam and lock the gate so they can't ever get out again. We need all the Avengers on board this November!

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
43. We damn sure better see commercials with that theme
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 12:56 AM
Aug 2018

The impeachment commercials from Steyer have been a colossal waste, compared to what should have been there.

I'm not convinced we will communicate effectively this fall.

I'm also worried the Republicans will attempt to get rid of many of those things in the lame duck congress, regardless of the result but especially if they lose. I'm sure people will tell me this reason and that reason it can't happen. Sorry, these are Republicans circa 2018. It can happen.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
48. I am 70 today.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 05:40 AM
Aug 2018

I am out helping candidates and will continue to GOTV. We will lose our democracy if we don't all get out and vote, no matter what our age.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
50. Excellent post.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 07:06 AM
Aug 2018

My husband and I, who are of a similar age, have been discussing this and also came to the conclusion it probably wouldn't hurt us all that much. Even the GOP is smart enough not to cut benefits from existing recipients because they're only hope of winning anything is geezers. Younger people, though, could be severely impacted immediately and in the long run. Everyone must vote and do not be swayed by the third party BS. Our form of government isn't conducive to 3 parties. You vote Green, you get Trump.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
51. I'm 61 and I always say I don't worry for me but for the younger generations
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 07:28 AM
Aug 2018

They're the ones who are going to be hurting if republicans aren't stopped.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
54. One More Thing
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:27 AM
Aug 2018

All those purity folks need to wake up. We are trying to save our country. Get real. If you look at the Democratic Party Platform you would see a lot you agree with. Vote for the country in November.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
55. I'm 51 years old - even when I was in high school
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:37 AM
Aug 2018

I had been told that Social Security and Medicare wouldn't be around for me when I was at retirement age because of our aging population. Imagine another 25-35 or more years of RW propaganda on "entitlements" about Social Security and Medicare? The "kids" in their late teens and 20s now have no idea what it would be like to live without SS or Medicare as a retiree because they're not thinking that far ahead or not planning on those "entitlements" even being around for them to use.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
57. I'm 64. No words were ever truer. Young people, you just don't know....
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:57 AM
Aug 2018

Young people, especially young women, you just don't know the rights and programs that have come along to make our lives better since I was a child.

You stand to lose all of these things. Women...it is STILL illegal to pay you less than a man, but when I was a kid, it was LEGAL not to hire you in the first place. And if you were black, forget it.

There were no female doctors, engineers, accountants, cable installers, etc., when I was a child. If you were a minority woman, you were out of luck all 'round...no life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness for you. White men had all the good jobs. All of them. Heck, you were even prevented from voting in some places. A bill had to be passed to make sure you got to vote.

You would look forward to an almost certainty of living your senior years in poverty, as you struggle to live on your own savings and pay full price for increasing medical bills, since Social Security and Medicare would be gone.

You would have to pass a written literacy exam in order to vote in some places.

The country might revert back to a time without civil rights, if Rand Paul's way of thinking would take hold. Imagine trying to go on a road trip without being able to use public restrooms or eat at restaurants or stay at any hotel or motel. If your job requires you to travel, there goes your job, too.

Some women would die writhing in pain and eaten up with infection and injuries from alley abortions.

The hatred of white supremacy would be unleashed even more than now.

Unions and the protections they bring would be in danger. Guaranteed overtime, the EEOC, our environment, the protection of our national parks for future generations...so many things would be in danger.

There has never been a more critical time to vote in my lifetime than now. The lives of young people literally depend on it. It sounds overly dramatic and fear mongering. But I believe it's true. So many things are at stake.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
64. Mark my words: If Russia hacks this election , if voting machines turn RED instead of Blue...
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 11:28 AM
Aug 2018

If THE Democratic blue wave is stopped some how,then Democracy is GONE FOR good, Say hello to A long ,long, long TRUMP administration that, like CHINA will make Him President for Life. Once that happens, THe United States will look Like CUBA...or maybe even CHINA, and will never be the same again.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
70. I am 38
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 01:43 PM
Aug 2018

And the last election I missed was when I was 19.

I've already sent in my absentee ballot request.

calguy

(5,309 posts)
71. I'm 68 and my sentiments are exactly the sameas yours
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 01:53 PM
Aug 2018

My life will probably not be affected by any changes that may occur if we do not prevail. I feel for the younger folks who will be affected. I'll be voting as I always do, but if the younger generation want a better future, they themselves must get off their butts and go out and take it.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
72. ANYBODY who thinks they'll never need Social Security and Medicare needs to think again!!!
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 02:15 PM
Aug 2018

Vote for the people who will fight to preserve and improve them!


I'm 67 next month and heartily approve your message.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
73. Vote now or forever hold your vote. Because if the GOP has its way,
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 02:24 PM
Aug 2018

voting will be about as legit as it is in Russia.

 

marehare

(40 posts)
74. I'm 72 also
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 02:32 PM
Aug 2018

I also am 72 and a lifelong Californian Democrat. I love living in a Blue state.
I'm worried about the damage this loser in our WH is doing to our country.
I talk to young people all the time about voting and running for office. I for one, think we need lots more younger people in office. Although I'm sharp, very informed and
always open to change, we have way too many old dinosaurs in office that are stuck way back in the 50's. And no, I'm not talking about Pelosi or Feinstein. Before abortion was legal, women died from back alley abortions. My best friend's mom died from one and she grew up without a mom. We women can't lose the right to determine our future. We also must have universal health care. We also need immigration reform.
We also need to make sure the LGBTQ have equal rights as you do. We want better education and low college costs. If the young care about their future, they will have to fight, vote and do like we did in the 60's and 70's. We fought for change and it wasn't easy.

Trump and the GOP are planning (if they get two more elected senators), to take away all health care under the ACA act (Obama care).
Social Security is in danger also with the republicans in control. They gave the rich a huge tax cut while refusing to grant federal workers their agreed upon raise. They also plan to cut SS COLA and deny future COLSA. Do vote and vote Blue. If you care. Give a ride to the polls to anyone you know that needs a ride.
It's our future and the future of a healthy planet to get these climate denying crazies out of our government.. They put Russian interests before ours for $$ as trump does. I support Universal health care, but I don't ever support Bernie Sanders. He never explained why he put Russian interests before American when he and Rand Paul voted NO on the Russian Sanctions bill that was to punish Russia for attacking our elections. His lame excuse was total BS.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
75. Approaching 73 and in total -- even furious -- agreement
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 03:44 PM
Aug 2018

To the younger voters: we honestly tried, folks. Really we did. But despite our efforts, we have stuck you with a dangerous narcissist as president* who is bent on accelerating the already verified decline of the planet, who is bent on allying and subordinating the U.S. to Russia, and putting into motion so many other evils it would take a page just to list them.

In November we have a final chance to make things right again. So it's up to you, to me, to all of us, to vote.

Because if the vote in November is not Democratic, massively Democratic, we stand to lose everything. Let me repeat that: all of the social and environmental safeguards in place to maintain America as a land of hope will be lost. Individual liberty will be lost. The dignity and respect of America, already terribly weakened, will be lost.

But worse, perhaps, even than that, we stand to lose the most precious right of all, the right to vote. The GOP has been trying, with frightening success, to restrict and/or obstruct the right to vote of millions of Americans over the past 20 years. They will not stop as long as the GOP retains power.

So vote! Even if the Democratic candidate(s) are repulsive to you -- as some are to me -- vote for them. Hold your nose, if you have to, but vote. Vote for your future, for your children's future, for their children's future.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
77. 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 04:23 PM
Aug 2018

Just vote and vote dem, everyone! It will affect me as well and I’m not young.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
78. Bravo! Yes!!! Our country is at stake.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 04:40 PM
Aug 2018

Trump's using Hilter's playbook. This is the fight of our lives.

I asked our young aa server the other night if she was registered to vote. Got a resounding yes. We gave each other a big smile and knowing look. I was pleased. I approach folks in the supermarkets too. We gotta GOTV.

 

ToTheStreets

(24 posts)
79. Well said
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 04:41 PM
Aug 2018

Oh, and also be wary of this site, Dem Underground, which allowed Russian trolls acting like Bernie supporters take it over and bash Hillary non stop. Enough to make the difference and award Trump the WH.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
82. Sadly, if young people don't vote, they will reap the whirlwind
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 07:00 PM
Aug 2018

because of their own damn disinterest.

I'm old enough so that I probably won't suffer the consequences. They will have only themselves to blame.

lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
84. Great thread
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:54 PM
Aug 2018

But where was everyone during the 2016 election? I've heard Bernie Sanders and Thom Hartmann say that the American electorate is smart, as a majority says in polls that they want Medicare for all, free college, a livable minimum wage among other progressive issues.

If this is true how could they ever have voted for a billionaire huckster who has had nothing but utter contempt for working people his entire life?

And OK I get that voter suppression and gerrymandering led to the GOP takeover of the House. But how do you explain the Dems losing the senate?

The upcoming election results will totally depend on turnout.
All the best for your children...

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