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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/mike-pence-and-his-talent-for-being-absent/569017/Mike Pence and His Talent for Being Absent
In the swirl of headlines around President Trump and the White House, Vice President Mike Pence hardly merits a mention.
Dick Polman
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The official wordfrom the Pence spokeswoman Alyssa Farah, informing CNNis that Vice President Pence is focused on advancing the Presidents agenda for a growing economy, a safer America and reelecting Republican majorities in the House and Senate. The unofficial word, from a longtime Pence aide, is that he likes to be out. In translation, he likes to be as far away from the White House chaos as he can physically manage, and when he is confronted with uncomfortable questions about the mounting scandalsas he was last week during a trip to Texas and Louisiana, with Air Force Twos engine roar intruding on the questionershe stays mute.
Pence continues to take heat for his dogged fealty to Trump. Michael DAntonio and Peter Eisner, the authors of the new book The Shadow President: The Truth About Mike Pence, call him a toady. George Will, the conservative columnist whos openly rooting for a Democratic midterm sweep, calls Pence Americas most repulsive public figure. When Pence stands behind Trump, rotely nodding at the latest pearls of Trumpian wisdom, he sometimes conjures images of a bobblehead doll, the kind kids get for free at ballparks.
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But while this debate over Pences suitability rages on, its still unclear whether, or to what extent, Pence is entwined with the Trump regimes Russia woes. Its the old Howard Baker question, rebooted from the 1973 Senate Watergate hearings: What did Pence know, and when did he know it? There are lingering questions about Pences knowledge of Michael Flynns preinaugural back-channel dealings with Russia while President Barack Obama was meting out sanctions. There are lingering questions about Pences knowledge of the true reasons for the Comey firing. Pence might still be a target, or a suspector a potential witness. And by dint of his job, he is the one aide that Trump cant fire.
Pence is mostly mute these days, except at private Republican fund-raisers, but events beyond his control may propel him to the foreground. And perhaps the biggest question is whether he will be irrevocably tainted by association.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)nature-lover
(1,469 posts)So far, he has been basically overlooked. Trump has sucked all of the oxygen. Pence needs to be reported on as if he were running for office - which he is.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)Even if Pence were to come out of his shell, you can bet tRump would call him on the carpet. There is only room for one King and Pence aint it. Just ask tRump. He will be happy to let you know who is in charge and who the lackeys are.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)The guy is a complete nothing. How he ever got where he is I will never know.
Solly Mack
(90,767 posts)But should Trump be rightfully impeached, convicted/removed, indicted, tried - and then sent off to prison, there will be some bullshit narrative about how Pence will bring stabilization and how the nation can now move on. (my fear)
Unless Mueller can and does expose Pence's role. (my hope)
Oh, and he has to get McConnell and Ryan too.
Not that there is anyone in the line of succession who isn't a piece of shit and a danger to America.
RestoreAmerica2020
(3,435 posts)..his resignation could stem from his knowledge and or involvement in Flynn cover up; his connection to criminal/corrupt manafort who somehow "stong armed" odious-traitor trump into selecting pence as V.P, [Does Russia have kompromat on him as well?] Also, it's difficult to fatham that Pence kept an arms-length approach to shady dealings of donthecon without soiling his hands in some manner. The depth and breath of criminality and corruption of trump, his family, staff, friends, gop is stunning...when he resigns, is impeached hopefully he takes everyone down with him--including pence.
Vice President Agnew resigns - Oct 10, 1973 - HISTORY.com
Less than a year before Richard M. Nixon's resignation as president of the United States, Spiro Agnew becomes the first U.S. vice president to resign in disgrace. The same day, he pleaded no contest to a charge of federal income tax evasion in exchange for the dropping of charges of political corruption.
Solly Mack
(90,767 posts)But that won't necessarily stop a BS narrative from taking place.
RestoreAmerica2020
(3,435 posts)Pence may well be the next president, that is, until 2020--a racist, bigot religious fanatic vs a racist bigoted facist...I suppose he is the lesser of two evils...yet, evil just the same.
I would hope, given his legal background, congressional experience, he would bring some semblance of normalcy to presidency: utiize available intel resources to approach foreign and domestic policies--one can only surmise he is cognizant of what the office entails...frankly, he will be a welcome change from all the chaos that his boss is bent on creating everyday.
We'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out.. ..Mueller's report; dems (we) take control of house of reps. in November...it''ll be interesting to watch how the dominoes [corrupt repubs] falll. #GOTV2018
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Pence can never be more than Trump Light and that will not be good enough for Trumpers. And anyone who despises Trump, which includes a significant number of Republicans and Independents, will never support Pence.