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The Giulianis Break Up And Rudy breaks down? How Judi diagnoses her exs new dissembling condition.By Tish Durkin
The man that he is now is absolutely not the man he was when I married him.
Judith Giuliani is every bit as calm and cool as the empty, deeply air-conditioned Mount Fuji restaurant in Southampton where she has opted to meet late on a blistering August afternoon. Her soon-to-be-ex-husband, in commenting on her commenting on his infidelity and mendacity, has told reporters that she is spiteful and full of rage. Many of his associates have told me that shes pretty much Lucifer and Marie Antoinette rolled into one. Sitting here sipping her tea, though, she seems like a pale, petite, pristinely groomed lady with much more story to tell than nerve to tell it. So, as if to get the whole thing over with, she has raced straight to the answer to the big question that is buzzing like a bee around the table as it has been buzzing around New York and, apparently, her life: What has happened to Rudy?
Somehow, one cant help but sense that that question is all mixed up with the question of what has happened to his marriage. No one is ordering anything to eat, but we are digging into quite some stew.
If you ask Judith to spell out the difference she sees between the Rudy she married and the Rudy she is divorcing, she will contrast his (supposedly) no-nonsense, straight-talking mayoral past with his current, presidential-lawyer habit of dissembling, to put it kindly.
Perhaps, even now, she is looking back with the half-blind eyes of love. Rudy was never known as the soul of honesty or, for that matter, sanity. Even as he was building his reputation for saving New York City, he was chewing out reporters, firing spotlight-stealing officials, and manufacturing enemies to vanquish. He was also simultaneously denying and flaunting an extramarital affair with his most powerful aide. Vengeance-as-competence was his signature dish, often served with a heaping side of personal turmoil. Back in the day, though, he always emanated at least some sense of calculation, and in retrospect, that was comforting. In the months since Americas mayor resurfaced as Donald Trumps lawyer-avenger, he has, in many eyes, evinced a great deal more madness than method. Last week, civic-minded speculation about this became the stuff of headlines in the Times. The sex part had long since hit the tabloids.
I am not upset about Maria Rosa Ryan, Judith declares, referencing the hospital administrator with whom Rudy was caught spending a night at a New Hampshire hotel in March, an episode exposed in the New York Post. (Rudy claimed that he and Ryan werent up to anything carnal, just dining and watching The Godfather which the former mayor is, in fairness, widely believed to consider better than sex.)
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Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)in need of re-education camps (LOL) so they can forsake their degenerate republican values, and instead embrace American values like honesty, decency, compassion, transparency, respect for women, adherence to laws, and loyalty to the USA instead of some freaking deep-pocket Evil Empire*
As always, The Newtster has some republican "wisdom" to share with Rudy:
GusBob
(7,286 posts)This reads like "Bonfire of the Vanities" meets Teen Beat magazine
trueblue2007
(17,218 posts)MORE FROM HIS WIFE .......
John McCain was one of our very closest, dearest friends and one of Rudys icons, she attests. Judith has refused to say anything about politics, or much more disappointingly about Trump. But as the nation leans into the mourning of McCain, she cites Rudys perfunctory tweet about his old buddy as another I dont know this guy moment.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)None of this surprises me. He is the scum of the earth just like his bottom-feeding client.
DFW
(54,379 posts)One is a successful businessman from South Carolina who flies propeller planes as a hobby and spends half the year in the San Juan Islands off the coast of Seattle because he loves the nature. Nicest man you could want to meet. He invents successful niche kinds of service companies, and sells them off when they become super-profitable. Don't ask me for more details, most of it is over my head.
The other is an executive VP of Heritage Auctions in Dallas, originally from the Pacific Northwest, who always keeps on top of transparency and the clean nature of his and his company's transactions.
These are two level-headed, highly educated, even-tempered men, so, needless to say, both DESPISE Trump, and they are both aghast with horror at what their party has become.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)these tea-party, christian-dominionist, Trump-cultist types.
We have a republican governor here in Massachusetts, Charlie Baker, who basically acts like a conservative Democrat and seems to be a decent, sane and sober fellow. However those types are few and far between these days. Most of them have just become so extreme, greedy, selfish and hateful and will tell any amount of lies to cover up their deceit and corruption.
DFW
(54,379 posts)Many Republicans despise him, it seems--no doubt because he is "decent, sane and sober."
I understand their objections. After all, what Republican wants a guy like THAT in their party?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Democrat. He's not extreme enough for these right-wing whack jobs. They will never get anywhere in this state. I am glad of that!
Hope all is well w/ you and your family DFW!
DFW
(54,379 posts)"The right wing Republican hacks hate me, the Democrats think I'm a little too far right for them, but not so bad that they can't stand it--I'm in Massachusetts Republican heaven!" In any other state, the state Republican party would have sent him up on a one-way trip in a small private plane during a thunderstorm.
The family, ah yes, well as of this weekend: the younger daughter canceled a visit up here to the Rheinland because my wife had to go take care of HER mom, and without my wife to take the baby for a few hours each day, what's the point, right? My elder daughter was attending a wedding in California with her boyfriend, who proposed while they were overlooking the Pacific Ocean (proposal accepted), whereupon they took the first plane for Tokyo: as long as you're on the Pacific somewhere, Japan is in the neighborhood, right? Kinda, sorta? And me, I'm desperately trying to find some sleep to drown my jet lag, but keep getting called over to Sprout City every two days.
A wise old French friend used to tell me to slow down, repeating a favorite quote of his: the cemetery is full of people the world just couldn't do without (i.e., don't be in any rush to join them!). About five years ago, he called me from his hospital bed, saying he had a little cancer problem, and was going in for an operation, but he'd get in touch when he was OK again. He never did, and instead, joined all those other indispensable people. He was right, I gotta stop acting like I'm in a rush to join them, too.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)enjoy your life. It sounds like you are blessed with a wonderful family and friends. Work can wait and sleep is more important than you know, especially when you are flying all over the world.
It sounds like there is a lot going on in your family - a new grandchild, an engagement - and life is moving pretty fast. Take the time to enjoy your family and their milestones. Good food, lots of rest, a change of perspective on what's important and you will feel refreshed soon.
LandOfHopeAndDreams
(872 posts)He hasn't changed one bit. He still is the same guy you married. You were just too dumb to realize it until now. Go get your money, and be on your way.
melman
(7,681 posts)Now, just to be clear I've thought Rudy was a piece of shit since I first heard of him in the '80s. So that's not new.
But current Rudy has taken a bizarre turn. He seems completely unhinged in interviews.
Again, not saying he was ever a good guy. He wasn't. But he has changed.
DFW
(54,379 posts)I had no idea about any of this. I didn't know there was still a woman who was OK with being married to him. Obviously, if she is seeking a divorce, she is not totally deranged.
Actually, I have an inkling that Melania is not deranged, either--she just prefers being alive to the fatal accident she has probably been told would befall her if she divorced the Donald while he was still in office. I doubt he cares whether she goes or stays, but the public embarrassment is something he would never forgive (see "Election, 2016" ).
GoCubsGo
(32,083 posts)Your soon-to-be ex-husband is every bit the lying, corrupt scumbag he was the day you first met him. One would have think you would have figured that out when he cheated on his previous wife with you, and announced their pending divorce to the media before he ever said anything to her.