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Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
1. I think his petulant response has cost him, unfortunately it's probably short-lived
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 07:49 PM
Aug 2018

Gore Vidal said “We are the United States of Amnesia, we learn nothing because we remember nothing.”

Sadly, I think this is truer now than when he said it.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
8. I think you are right about the petulance, but wrong about the short-lived part.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:09 PM
Aug 2018

I think it's a combination of the guilty pleas/verdicts and the bullshit raising/lowering of the the flag, the pouting, all that.

The people that hate John McCain will continue to do so and will back Rump. Those that are at all persuadable are being persuaded. I think.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
17. Let's put it this way...
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 10:30 PM
Aug 2018

Someone on my Facebook feed because we're relate recently shared a page which I will only partially misname as "Veterans With Nothing Better To Do Than Still Grind Axes Against Jane Fonda".

That carefully-cultivated unending animosity to Fonda, John Kerry, Dan Rather, and liberals & Democrats in general is a very comfortable position and well-worn rut for the same people who would theoretically be livid at Trump for the way he's acted against McCain.

I'm inclined to think the percentage that will huff and puff and make excuses will be larger than the percentage that it actually peels off.

That may provide an important margin, but don't bet the farm on it.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
3. It surely ought to be... I think all the attention, adulation, and even bipartisan respect being
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 07:53 PM
Aug 2018

shown, as well as the life story I'd bet a lot of brainwashed RWers knew little about, has gotten through the RW media filter.

It surely can't be hurting.

ooky

(8,923 posts)
6. Yes.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 07:59 PM
Aug 2018

Absolutely. People making a natural comparison of McCain to him - is opening some eyes how bad he really is, especially with his pettyness factored in. He looks like a complete joke.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
9. I think you may be wrong there, regarding old school Republicans.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:14 PM
Aug 2018

They'll follow anyone anywhere if it involves tax cuts and destroying the federal government. I think it is the persuadable crowd: like, the (normally) fairly apolitical military and the people who actually are paying enough attention to guilty verdicts etc. The obvious and pathetic petulance was just the equivalent of a neon sign as to Rump's (lack of) character. Hard to ignore.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
11. Maybe but I don't care what it was
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:21 PM
Aug 2018

Keep it 2 points lower than it was trending and that can mean one close race after another tilts narrowly our way -- House, senate, gov

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
14. His supporters that aren't batshit crazy are starting to see what is going on - finally.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 09:36 PM
Aug 2018

Cohen and Manafort - GUILTY. McCain insults - GUILTY. Saying that he is going to "take over" the Russia probe - GUILTY. Some big donors are likely starting to make calls to the Congressmen and Senators they bought and ask questions.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
16. That and his nasty personal behavior all week. He can't be bothered with the bare minimum of decorum
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 10:16 PM
Aug 2018

...EVER, and this week has put a brutal spotlight on the difference between his shriveled self and that of a great, if flawed, American.

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