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An Ohio school superintendent has apologized for a class exercise that asked middle school students to choose from a list of racially, ethnically and religiously diverse candidates to save or leave behind if Earth were doomed for destruction.
The assignment presented 12 potential spaceship passengers, including a militant African-American medical student, a Hispanic clergyman who is against homosexuality, an Asian, orphaned 12-year-old boy, a homosexual male professional athlete, and a 60-year-old Jewish university administrator. The students were instructed to select eight to take to safety on another planet, ranking them from the most deserving to the least.
Its disturbing all the way around, said Bernadette Hartman, whose son completed the assignment during an eighth-grade social studies class at Roberts Middle School in Cuyahoga Falls, a large suburb near Akron.
The teacher used it as an icebreaker, the superintendent, Todd M. Nichols of the Cuyahoga Falls School District, said in a statement. The intent was to promote tolerance and break down stereotypes, he said, and help fulfill the districts goal of engaging in conversations about diversity awareness and social justice.
The teacher and district offer their most sincere apologies for the offense caused by the content used in this assignment, the statement said. Future assignments on this topic will be more carefully selected.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/30/us/ohio-school-spaceship-diversity-quiz.html
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Space Force will shoot the spaceship down with their lasers. Pew...Pew...Pew!
KCDebbie
(664 posts)Beakybird
(3,333 posts)It's not an ice breaker. It's a heart breaker.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Not in that form anyway. Maybe simplify it at middle school level.
KCDebbie
(664 posts)But I think, in order for our nation to progress and develop a new crop of SMART young Americans, we just need to accept that fact that people will learn and THINK about things that may sometimes make US uncomfortable...
Hekate
(90,769 posts)...assigning "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas" by Ursula K. LeGuin for class discussion. It is age-appropriate for middle school on up to old age, and will really knock your (or their) socks off.
I understand it has become a staple in some curricula, which I think is great. Regarding the down-thread examples, I would say: public or private schools, or religious education groups. Or, if you are a soiltary reader like I was, you can work it out for yourself.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Honestly, if I had to leave earth and my last choice came down to a skill that my group did not have and the choice was between a doctor or a banker, I would chose the doctor without any thought on anything else.
tblue37
(65,477 posts)in 1968 our first essay prompt asked us to explain which of a group of people in an overloaded lifeboat we would save or throw overboard and why.
Sentimentality was on full display. Most people, especially the young women, wanted to save the pregnant woman, the kindly old priest, and the child, while the young men, especially if they were high school dropouts, were almost always deemed less worthy of saving.
The professor commented at one point that the child or the fetus might grow up to becoming a murdering sociopath, whereas the character of the adults might be possible to discern, which could help us make our choices.
I pointed out that a strong young man might be invaluable in helping the survivors continue to survive under challenging conditions, provided he seemed to be the sort you could trust not to use his strength to take advantage of or abuse weaker members of the group. I also pointed out that a high school or college degree wouldn't count for much in such a situation, whereas strength and goodwill usually would.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)Only when I had it, the prospective people to let on my lifeboat weren't as polarizing as these examples.
The selection offered is a genuinely terrible one. Plus, are there any females who can possibly help repopulate?
This is not an icebreaker. It's not appropriate for middle school kids. And don't trot out the "They're more mature than we were at that age" nonsense. Kids are not more mature than ever. They are (sometimes) adultified because of what they've been exposed to, but they are still intellectually and emotionally kids.
The life boat scenario is a good one, but the individuals to be selected from don't need to be quite this, shall I say diverse? Or likely to bring out the kids' learned prejudices. Starting a discussion on diversity and inclusion shouldn't start with extreme examples, but with ones only somewhat outside their normal experiences.
Perhaps more to the point, no matter who is included, no matter what the balance of males and females, this is going to be far too small a sample of humans to successfully restart the human race on another planet.
NickB79
(19,257 posts)Damn it, my inner biology nerd escaped again.
Hekate
(90,769 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)The 1 being the respondent.
Otherwise you fix the odds from (small) to (zero).
Farmer-Rick
(10,197 posts)And give them to his family and friends with a few slaves, I mean servants, and pilots and doctors thrown in.
Don't believe for a second that it would be a fair and intelligent selection process.
Hekate
(90,769 posts)...a "stingy Scotsman" and a "ditsy blonde" to round out the cast of stereotypes? Why not?
JHB
(37,161 posts)...because that would entail talking about al-kee-hol with middle schoolers, of course, and we can't have that! They might get ideas.
<insert "facetious" smiley because DU doesn't have one>
Cairycat
(1,706 posts)but not in a public school setting, rather a church one - church camp or perhaps in Sunday School, with my church's pastor leading us through the exercise. I don't remember any parents objecting.
I think young teens considering the idea that most of us consider some lives more valuable than others, and why that should be, is a good thing, but would have to be handled carefully. I don't think the public school setting would be the one to do it in.
Midnight Writer
(21,780 posts)MineralMan
(146,324 posts)msongs
(67,433 posts)and there was no list of potential characters with attributes
Midnight Writer
(21,780 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,085 posts)That aside, it is an interesting philosophical exercise - as long as you don't describe those being selected as who would you choose to save, and why - rather than who is most deserving (which forces students to assess worth based on gender, sexual orientation, etc.)
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If the goal was to see whether kids would chose people that looked like them without other qualifiers, maybe leaving out the over the top adjectives would have worked. Why not just Black medical student instead of adding the militant, see whether the kids would reason that having a doctor of any race come along was a good idea.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)We dont need the human race spreading. Let it end at Earth.
In our present state we are like a virus.
edbermac
(15,942 posts)Played a variation of this back in high school.
hunter
(38,322 posts)... what's the point? If an omnipotent being decides to evict humans from this universe there's not much we can do about it.
If it's a random event, or we've done it to ourselves, there's not much we can do about that either.
It's explicitly stated in the problem.
In that case twelve people in a flimsy space ship are no less doomed than the rest of us.
So instead of people, I say we stuff the space ship with earth's most resilient and diverse microscopic species and hope for the best.
You can stuff a whole lot of microscopic life into a tin can built for a dozen soon-to-be-freeze-dried humans, and the shelf life is much longer.
Tardigrade are pretty tough.
My reaction to this problem is much the same as when I first suffered it in middle school.
That's stupid.
Our eighth grade class got the fallout shelter version since the Cold War was still hot. Crawl under your desk and kiss your ass goodbye.
Worse, it was a group project and we were supposed to work it out with a few randomly selected classmates.
This team-building exercise, hypothetically choosing who was going to live and who was going to die, did not improve my social skills or make me a better person.
All in all, if I was saving large mammals, I'd probably pick polar bears.
In Andy Weir's book The Martian I like how they planned to have the smallest most energy efficient person, Johansen, bring the Mars Ferry Hermes back to earth if the food rendezvous failed, figuring she would survive, but just barely, if her crewmates froze themselves and she ate them. Martinez jokes that he'd taste best because Johansen likes Mexican food.
Seeing as how I'm saving polar bears in my answer to the space ship problem, I'd pick the humans I could most efficiently stuff into the freezers. It could be less than 12 people, it could be more, like a game of Tetris played with corpses.
Ask a morbid question, get a morbid answer.
But fuck it, I don't need any thinly veiled Christian theology.
It's Noah, his ark, and his incestuous family all over again.
Who would God choose?
Who cares?
unblock
(52,286 posts)Cuyahoga Falls gets a mention in this great song by the pretenders:
"My City Was Gone"
I went back to Ohio
But my city was gone
There was no train station
There was no downtown
South Howard had disappeared
All my favorite places
My city had been pulled down
Reduced to parking spaces
Ay, oh, way to go, Ohio
Well, I went back to Ohio
But my family was gone
I stood on the back porch
There was nobody home
I was stunned and amazed
My childhood memories
Slowly swirled past
Like the wind through the trees
Ay, oh, way to go, Ohio
I went back to Ohio
But my pretty countryside
Had been paved down the middle
By a government that had no pride
The farms of Ohio
Had been replaced by shopping malls
And Muzak filled the air
From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls
Said, ay, oh, way to go, Ohio