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kpete

(72,022 posts)
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:27 PM Sep 2018

"Just walked up to Judge Kavanaugh as am session ended. Put out my hand to introduce myself as..."

Last edited Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:38 PM - Edit history (5)


(AP Photo/Andrew Harnik)

Fred Guttenberg

Just walked up to Judge Kavanaugh as morning session ended. Put out my hand to introduce myself as Jaime Guttenberg's dad. He pulled his hand back, turned his back to me and walked away. I guess he did not want to deal with the reality of gun violence





Fred Guttenberg
My daughter is Jaime Guttenberg. She was murdered in Parkland Florida on February 14, 2018. I will dedicate the rest of my life to the cause of gun safety.







Updated to add pics:
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and now with VIDEO:

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"Just walked up to Judge Kavanaugh as am session ended. Put out my hand to introduce myself as..." (Original Post) kpete Sep 2018 OP
The prick judge SummerSnow Sep 2018 #1
Rude and inconsiderate, that's what that was and... WePurrsevere Sep 2018 #2
THAT is very telling ... pangaia Sep 2018 #3
Did he forget that there were cameras in the room Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2018 #73
He couldn't even be polite? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #4
Only to people that matter. nt BootinUp Sep 2018 #46
So he couldn't even offer condolences? trixie2 Sep 2018 #5
He really showed who he was with that gesture. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #6
He is a very bad man. Dave Starsky Sep 2018 #20
... geardaddy Sep 2018 #32
He's right you know! Anon-C Sep 2018 #52
Oh, I know! geardaddy Sep 2018 #57
OMG!! That was a horrible thing for #Kavanaugh to do. riversedge Sep 2018 #7
That says more about the demeanor of this man more than anything he could say in the hearings. gtar100 Sep 2018 #8
SENATORS, this is your media leverage. Use it! DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #51
+1 KentuckyWoman Sep 2018 #64
What a heartless ass. As if he wasn't one already. That just shows SCRUBDASHRUB Sep 2018 #9
What kind of scum would do this? N/T jimmil Sep 2018 #10
The smum named #Kavanaugh. riversedge Sep 2018 #13
A Republican. Beartracks Sep 2018 #47
Fred, I applauded from my living room when @SenFeinstein recognized you. We stand with you 💗 riversedge Sep 2018 #11
What a scumbag malaise Sep 2018 #12
What a coward! He can't even be civil and at least go through the motions procon Sep 2018 #14
Does anyone really expect that Bettie Sep 2018 #15
Oh, he'll claim that even acknowledging the father of a victim would "taint his decision" if... haele Sep 2018 #25
Gee, how empathetic he is. Just like the unknown women say in Kavanaugh's smarmy ads. hedda_foil Sep 2018 #16
I feel a Democratic senator SHOULD bluestarone Sep 2018 #17
NRA is supporting Kavanaugh... The Russians is funding the NRA. djacq Sep 2018 #18
Another Putin asset, this time on the SCOTUS workinclasszero Sep 2018 #23
We reveal ourselves . . . peggysue2 Sep 2018 #19
Yes, indeed cp Sep 2018 #33
Now, now, we all need to be civil gratuitous Sep 2018 #21
Heartless bastard owned by the gun lobby workinclasszero Sep 2018 #22
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Sep 2018 #24
not unexpected of officials of this administration. a jerk is a jerk, is a jerk. AllaN01Bear Sep 2018 #26
Awful. C_U_L8R Sep 2018 #27
Fucking BRILLIANT and PERFECT Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #28
+1000.nt ecstatic Sep 2018 #77
Run Forrest, Run! Anon-C Sep 2018 #29
+1 workinclasszero Sep 2018 #30
Scumvanaugh!!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2018 #31
Hey, Mike Pants, is this what you mean by "respectful"? cp Sep 2018 #34
So this goat fucker couldn't even pretend to be human for what, 10 seconds? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2018 #35
I learned everything I need to know about this cretin when I read the questions he wanted to ask Tipperary Sep 2018 #36
Do actions speak louder than words? Hmmmmm..... NoMoreRepugs Sep 2018 #37
They generally do, yes. Body language is hard to disguise. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2018 #39
Eggsactly what I was thinking. NoMoreRepugs Sep 2018 #56
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Sep 2018 #38
That video says it all about Kavanaugh RockaFowler Sep 2018 #40
Not only is it totally disrespectful Docreed2003 Sep 2018 #41
Guess he already gave at the office, lots of thoughts and prayers bigbrother05 Sep 2018 #42
Rosenstein patted Kavanaugh on the back (after Kav snubbed Guttenberg - see video). diva77 Sep 2018 #43
That's not Rosenstein. madaboutharry Sep 2018 #60
if you watch the whole video, there's some kind of edit and then a different angle shown where diva77 Sep 2018 #71
Damn. Cold hearted. Roland99 Sep 2018 #44
He prefers hands filled with cash. RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #45
This asshole gets to go home MontanaMama Sep 2018 #48
Parkland dad escorted out of hearing after trying to shake Kavanaugh's hand Gothmog Sep 2018 #49
That's messed up, and I'm generally pro-gun too Calculating Sep 2018 #50
I'm sure he doesn't know who Jaime Guttenberg is. No reason he should know all the names. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #53
ANOTHER ... political hack uponit7771 Sep 2018 #54
This is who he really turned his back on... when he accepted the support of the NRA lapfog_1 Sep 2018 #55
You should make this its own OP. geardaddy Sep 2018 #59
Couldn't even do a simple greeting. calimary Sep 2018 #58
Says a lot about Kavanaugh and his unfitness Retrograde Sep 2018 #61
Now that's some (Republican) civility. LakeArenal Sep 2018 #62
Lowlife coward nominated a lowlife coward Awsi Dooger Sep 2018 #63
He's on the Russian NRA payroll RainCaster Sep 2018 #65
Kavanaugh is mini Don the Con. Just as vile, heartless, and soulless. sinkingfeeling Sep 2018 #66
a perfect example MFM008 Sep 2018 #67
Parkland Dad @fred_guttenberg corrects Sarah Sanders for issuing 'incorrect' White House statement Gothmog Sep 2018 #68
This should be a Greg Stillson Blue Filter moment localroger Sep 2018 #69
The video of this incident is horrible Gothmog Sep 2018 #70
He's the NRA's errand boy. SergeStorms Sep 2018 #72
If it were certain well-known Republicans, he would have bowed down.... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #74
People need to wake up and understand blue-wave Sep 2018 #75
That pic is very important. Needs to be viral and the face ecstatic Sep 2018 #76
Should be blown up and set up on an easel DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #81
Great pictures. hay rick Sep 2018 #78
That's Fucking Despicable. kavenaugh should be Cha Sep 2018 #79
Kavanaugh is a Pervert that is worse than Scalia JI7 Sep 2018 #80
He seemed very defensive and paranoid... kentuck Sep 2018 #82
A total POS... RobertDevereaux Sep 2018 #83
Arrogance... TwistOneUp Sep 2018 #84
What. A. Bastard. ailsagirl Sep 2018 #85

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
2. Rude and inconsiderate, that's what that was and...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:30 PM
Sep 2018

even more so because of 'who' it was. Shame on him. What a classless POS.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
73. Did he forget that there were cameras in the room
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:46 PM
Sep 2018

that would capture that unconscionable sneer for all time ?

That picture is going to come back and haunt him and it should. Anyone who would treat someone like the parent of a murdered child like that does NOT belong on the SCOTUS.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
8. That says more about the demeanor of this man more than anything he could say in the hearings.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:36 PM
Sep 2018

Can't even be cordial. Gun rights before human rights....the cowardly have their priorities.

riversedge

(70,310 posts)
11. Fred, I applauded from my living room when @SenFeinstein recognized you. We stand with you 💗
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:45 PM
Sep 2018

I missed the hearing this morning but am glad DiFi recognized him




Replying to @karavoght @fred_guttenberg

Fred, I applauded from my living room when @SenFeinstein recognized you. We stand with you 💗


procon

(15,805 posts)
14. What a coward! He can't even be civil and at least go through the motions
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:52 PM
Sep 2018

of being polite to people even if he disagrees with them? What does that reaction say about his ability to judge the cases that come before him with fairness and impartiality?

Bettie

(16,129 posts)
15. Does anyone really expect that
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:55 PM
Sep 2018

he has ever heard a case with fairness or impartiality?

Seems to me he's generally made his decisions long before the first word is uttered in court.

haele

(12,681 posts)
25. Oh, he'll claim that even acknowledging the father of a victim would "taint his decision" if...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:41 PM
Sep 2018

a "2nd Amendment" type restriction or case ever came up before him.
As if no other judge ever associated with a victim or business that might later come up in court later on.

Just an asshole move from a arrogant snot drip no matter what his excuse.

Haele

bluestarone

(17,058 posts)
17. I feel a Democratic senator SHOULD
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:01 PM
Sep 2018

ASK the asshole WHY he turned his back and walked away!!!!The PUBLIC need to hear his reason!!!!

djacq

(1,634 posts)
18. NRA is supporting Kavanaugh... The Russians is funding the NRA.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:05 PM
Sep 2018

Kavanaugh was nominated by the Puppet of Russia.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
23. Another Putin asset, this time on the SCOTUS
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:38 PM
Sep 2018

Where he can do the will of the Russian dictator for the next 40 years or so with impunity.

peggysue2

(10,842 posts)
19. We reveal ourselves . . .
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:17 PM
Sep 2018

in these small moments. Turning his back on the father of a dead child was an incredibly petty and mean-spirited response.

Small moments reveal who we are. And who we are not.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. Now, now, we all need to be civil
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:22 PM
Sep 2018

Even in the face of this sort of telling behavior, we must at all costs be civil, because incivility in the face of atrocious behavior is 10 times Hitler squared worse.

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
27. Awful.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:44 PM
Sep 2018

That should be on the front pages of our newspapers. That's all you need to know about Cavanaugh. Like most rightwingers, he just doesn't care. He does not care. He doesn't care.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
28. Fucking BRILLIANT and PERFECT
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:45 PM
Sep 2018

this will resonate, trust me.

They are gonna get their way in the short haul, get thousands of Women and POC killed for sure, one way or another, but eventually this kind of PR will get them put back in their place, the place where scum belongs.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
36. I learned everything I need to know about this cretin when I read the questions he wanted to ask
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:08 PM
Sep 2018

Bill Clinton.

Docreed2003

(16,878 posts)
41. Not only is it totally disrespectful
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:24 PM
Sep 2018

The look on BK's face reviews his absolute revulsion. He looks as if he thinks Mr Guttenberg is trying to give him the plague.

diva77

(7,659 posts)
43. Rosenstein patted Kavanaugh on the back (after Kav snubbed Guttenberg - see video).
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:27 PM
Sep 2018

What is the Venn diagram intersection of Rosenstein and Kavanaugh?!?!?

diva77

(7,659 posts)
71. if you watch the whole video, there's some kind of edit and then a different angle shown where
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:45 PM
Sep 2018

Rosenstein, clearly smiling as he rises, pats Kav. on the back as he walks by. I don't understand how the video was put together - a bit strange

it's the video posted by @tommyxtopher

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
48. This asshole gets to go home
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:43 PM
Sep 2018

and have dinner with his kids tonight after the hearing. Mr Guttenberg will never have dinner with his daughter again. This is who repukes are.

Calculating

(2,957 posts)
50. That's messed up, and I'm generally pro-gun too
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:01 PM
Sep 2018

Even if you disagree with the viewpoints of somebody you should at least try to be respectful to them, especially in a case like this where the man lost his kid.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
53. I'm sure he doesn't know who Jaime Guttenberg is. No reason he should know all the names.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:19 PM
Sep 2018

Still, rude not to shake hands with someone. I guess he thinks he's too good, since he's about to become a SCT Justice.

Retrograde

(10,159 posts)
61. Says a lot about Kavanaugh and his unfitness
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:59 PM
Sep 2018

to defend the people and Constitution of the US.

My interpretation of the encounter:

Kavanaugh: "Who is this plebeian and why does he consider himself worthy to shake my hand? I don't recognize him, so he obviously isn't important and therefore can not do anything for me or my masters. He's probably going to whine about the ACA or women's rights to their own bodies or something else unimportant. Eewww - I almost got poor person cooties! McConnell didn't tell me I'd actually have to come in contact with a non-rich person."


For someone of Kavanaugh's relgiousity, he seems to have forgotten what Jesus said about how one treats the least of people is how they treat him. More than his stated opinions or his writings this encounter tells me he's not fit to be on any court, much less the highest one.

LakeArenal

(28,847 posts)
62. Now that's some (Republican) civility.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 05:00 PM
Sep 2018

Supreme Court Civility.

Put some period clothing on these folks and we have a scene from Poldark.
#George Warleggans

localroger

(3,631 posts)
69. This should be a Greg Stillson Blue Filter moment
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:10 PM
Sep 2018

This photo EVERYWHERE. No matter what the man believes this is the behavior of someone who has no business holding any important office. And he did it in the SENATE where even bitter enemies are expected to observe cordialities.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
72. He's the NRA's errand boy.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:13 PM
Sep 2018

you can bet there would never be any sort of effective gun control passed as long as Kavanaugh was a Supreme Whore Justice. There has never been a more fascist nominee for the SC than Kavanaugh. That is a fact, my friends.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
74. If it were certain well-known Republicans, he would have bowed down....
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:02 PM
Sep 2018

Koch, Adelson, Shrub, and Cheney are a few names that come to mind.......

I'm grateful to Mr. Guttenburg for his bravery......

blue-wave

(4,365 posts)
75. People need to wake up and understand
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 12:02 AM
Sep 2018

that the people vying for the complete take over and control of our government and country don't care. Yes, that's a harsh and cold statement. They do not care about us...the "masses." They worship only money and power. And if you do not worship those things too, well, you're trash and disposable in their eyes. I've walked in certain circles and heard them talk. It's the reason I haven't walked in those circles for decades.

If Kavanaugh is appointed to the SC, we will be in deep, deep trouble as a country. It might take a decade, but we will look back and wonder what ever happened to our great country. It will be decades if not generations of struggle to get back what we lost.

Cha

(297,716 posts)
79. That's Fucking Despicable. kavenaugh should be
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:27 AM
Sep 2018

voted down by that alone.

And, since the Reputins are hiding everything else about the arrogant asshole.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
82. He seemed very defensive and paranoid...
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 07:15 AM
Sep 2018

An opposing political viewpoint is alien to his partisan grooming. Once he becomes the newest Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, then the Republicans will have little need for Donald Trump. Their agenda has been mostly fulfilled. He reminds me in some way of Robert Bork.

RobertDevereaux

(1,858 posts)
83. A total POS...
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 10:42 AM
Sep 2018

A so-called President [sic] under serious investigation for treasonous behavior should never be able to put someone on any court!

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