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Discounted pizzas and financial aid for franchisees aren't doing much to curb Papa John's sales woes.
According to recent checks by Stifel, Papa John's same-store sales remain under pressure in the third quarter and, if they do not improve, store closures won't be far behind.
In July, same-store sales at the beleaguered pizza chain plunged 10.5 percent after it came to light that Papa John's founder had used a racially charged slur on a conference call. That trend continued in August.
So far in the third quarter, same-store sales are estimated to be down 10 to 11 percent, according to analyst Chris O'Cull.
"We are surprised the company's aggressive promotions the past several weeks have not curtailed the sales declines and we believe if the trend persists that it could lead to accelerating store closures during the next six months," O'Cull wrote in a research note Thursday.
O'Cull predicts that between 150 and 250 restaurants in noncore markets, the West Coast and Northeast, could be in danger of shuttering if Papa John's is unable to reignite its sales.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/papa-johns-could-close-hundreds-of-stores-if-sales-dont-rise/ar-BBN0c3C?li=BBnb7Kz
edhopper
(33,635 posts)being a Trumpster asswhole?
Or the fact their pizza sucks.
Wounded Bear
(58,726 posts)katmondoo
(6,457 posts)watching kids putting a pizza together turned me off forever, who knows what they do with it.
UncleTomsEvilBrother
(945 posts)...still owns a nice percentage of the company. A great PR campaign would be to ensure that 10% ownership all existing franchises around the country become Black-owned franchises.
The pizza is mediocre, but I think the company can be salvaged with a sensible gesture towards addressing his racism.
magicarpet
(14,181 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)For one merely NEAR one
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)No loss to any community.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The economy is doing great - bigly!
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,726 posts)Different Drummer
(7,651 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)Freethinker65
(10,064 posts)Franchise owners should have known the founder was an asshole just waiting to be exposed.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)obamanut2012
(26,154 posts)Only Pizza Hut sucks more. A lot of local places deliver now, too, but even if you don;t have one that does, Howie's, Marco's, and Domino's are way better than Papa John's. We usually get use a local place, but when we can't, we get Howie's or Domino's (who has really improved the last few years).
And, forget the wingnutness -- their "Papa John" is a very public and well-known drunken dude bro.
LuvNewcastle
(16,860 posts)Even politics aside, Papa John's should be on their knees thanking Whomever that they've made it this far. There must be divine intervention involved. Who buys that shit?
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Iggo
(47,574 posts)Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)It's a shame that good people who own his franchises are being hurt. Hopefully they can take them private and just be a neighborhood pizza place. No royalties to those corporate scumbags.
Voltaire2
(13,200 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)jmowreader
(50,566 posts)Restaurant supply stores sell all the ingredients you need to become a local pizza shop...they have canned sauce that's better than Schnatter's, frozen dough balls that are better than Schnatter's, preshredded cheese, presliced meats and veggies...these guys all know how to make a pizza, so what would be tripleplusgood is if the people who he cut off from the Papa John's system changed the name on the door and saw their sales increase.
JuJuYoshida
(2,216 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,478 posts)JesterCS
(1,827 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Worst pizza that I have ever bought. Pizza slices at the ballpark is better.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,243 posts)dembotoz
(16,852 posts)Great way to loose ur family savings.
Used to sell advertising to small business owners...
Lots of fanchises are own by independent owners.
When Jared decided to perv out and this clown decided to go full asshole, lots of families lost their shirts.
Freddie
(9,275 posts)Next to each other. Both gone, now empty stores. Nice couple from my church owned the Papa Johns before all the crap about his politics came out. I had it 2x, awful pizza - just sauce and cheese on bread, flavors didnt meld like good pizza does. It lasted maybe a year. Subway was there a long time (15 years?), one day I drove by and it was gone too.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)WestIndianArchie
(386 posts)I'll never buy papa johns pizza
JI7
(89,276 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,505 posts)Initech
(100,107 posts)Ask Roseanne and John Schnatter. No love lost!
Botany
(70,594 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 7, 2018, 10:28 PM - Edit history (1)
... I feel good. Dantes Pizza in Clintonville (Columbus) Ohio.
I have had about 2 or 3 Papa John's pizzas in my life and they sucked.
keithbvadu2
(36,949 posts)What happens when neo-Nazis hijack your brand
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/what-happens-when-nazis-hijack-your-brand/2017/11/16/8871c7ba-c98f-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.5bd8c1cfc790&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
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We were going to order from the local place where we get pizza all the time, but we said no, Papa Johns is the official pizza of the alt-right now, said Eli Mosley, the 26-year-old leader of the white separatist group Identity Evropa. Were just supporting the brands that support us.
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http://www.newsweek.com/papa-johns-tells-nazis-dont-buy-our-pizza-after-chain-claimed-official-pie-alt-702296
The Daily Stormer posted a picture of a swastika pizza after the CEO of official NFL sponsor Papa Johns blamed his companys recent losses on players kneeling during the national anthem to protest police brutality.
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ooky
(8,930 posts)"Buy our pizzas. Nazi's love 'em."
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)ooky
(8,930 posts)so I can't say I'm surprised. Tried it once and never went back. It was basically tomato sauce on cardboard. I would rather save my money and eat grocery store pizza than eat Papa Johns. Even if they weren't Nazi lovers.
lindysalsagal
(20,741 posts)Actually, school pizza is usually better....
Beaverhausen
(24,472 posts)The head of the company will be fine.
Initech
(100,107 posts)He's a Trump loving horse's ass.