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jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:20 PM Sep 2018

Prediction: There will be no SC Justice Kavanaugh

Based on some old adage about, smoke followed by fire.

McConnell told the WH not to nominate him, but dirty Don was hell bent on trying to get a justice that would let him off the hook.

Now just imagine for a moment if Democrats take the Senate.

Ok, flame away. LOL

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Prediction: There will be no SC Justice Kavanaugh (Original Post) jaysunb Sep 2018 OP
McConnell knew something? nt Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #1
It's been reported that he warned/urged them not to nominate him n/t jaysunb Sep 2018 #3
Right, due at least to kavan's extensive history of writings elleng Sep 2018 #12
Gang of Eight Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #19
WE all knew something, or anyone googling Kav did. Hortensis Sep 2018 #37
No flames, just some strong vibrations! BootinUp Sep 2018 #2
I wouldn't count on it, unless at least two republican Senators vote no still_one Sep 2018 #4
To be more specific, he will be withdrawn n/t jaysunb Sep 2018 #7
I don't see it. There would not be enough time for trumpster to nominate another justice before the still_one Sep 2018 #17
If the FBI investigation is serious, McConnell will withdraw him. Blue_true Sep 2018 #20
The committee vote will take place on Thursday, and I sure wouldn't count on the FBI to do a Comey still_one Sep 2018 #21
The FBI has said they have no intention of investigating this letter, john657 Sep 2018 #27
Trump will never withdraw him RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #33
Per WAPO, FBI has refused to launch investigation of letter, instead sending it over to WH hlthe2b Sep 2018 #5
Maybe John Q Public ought to know the contents of that letter? ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #26
Silly. It is done deal. He will be confirmed. nt USALiberal Sep 2018 #6
PLEASE let it be so! democratisphere Sep 2018 #8
I think there very well may be a SC Jus Kav; it has little to do with what they do/don't find on him RockRaven Sep 2018 #9
Good. Hopefully none of the other assholes on trump's RW list ecstatic Sep 2018 #10
The rest of them were shit too RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #34
He'll be confirmed. onenote Sep 2018 #11
Wish what you are smoking was legal here. sellitman Sep 2018 #13
Yup this is so fucked up. Initech Sep 2018 #15
They have the votes. Trust Buster Sep 2018 #14
IMO, his gambler problem will cause him to withdraw. CK_John Sep 2018 #16
Still waiting for anyone to source that claim.... AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #22
What gambling problem? john657 Sep 2018 #28
It's past time for him to be Bork-ed into unemployment. NightWatcher Sep 2018 #18
Two things rlegro Sep 2018 #23
DU predictions rarely come true left-of-center2012 Sep 2018 #24
Kavanaugh Clerked for Judge Kosinski - Two of a Kind dlk Sep 2018 #25
Wish I Were That Optimistic LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #29
I also predict that when it is all said and done, he can add a divorce to the list. Frustratedlady Sep 2018 #30
I totally agree jaysunb Sep 2018 #31
I pray you're right Jay. Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #32
He'll be seated for the Oct session... AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #35
Not unless Kavanaugh molested Ivanka and Trump shoots him on Fifth Avenue. Midnight Writer Sep 2018 #36

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. WE all knew something, or anyone googling Kav did.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:03 AM
Sep 2018

Most of this stuff was out there, including allegations of multiple perjury during his previous confirmations hearings, which should have been investigated and weren't, about Kavanaugh receiving and using property stolen from senate Democrats, again investigation blocked, etc.

But nothing more ever needed to be known after Kavanaugh's participation in the Republican swiftboating under Ken Starr. Masquerading as an investigation kept open for years, they enormously misused the power of the state to smear and disrupt the functions of the presidency and then to attempt to remove a president without cause. Extremely bad character was proven many times over, more than sufficient to deny anyone any position of trust and responsibility.

It's not that it wasn't known for what it was. Starr's involvement ended his own previously soaring career in the judiciary and federal government.

Democratic senators succeeding in getting the vote pushed back to next week. The hurricane is a very unfortunate distraction, of course. Kavanaugh could turn out to be it's worst, longest damage by far. But I'm signing on to the prediction. In spite of the fact that the NYT has nothing today on the nomination except one basic update article that reports actions and accusations but in no way examines Kavanaugh. Not even an opinion piece.

still_one

(92,338 posts)
17. I don't see it. There would not be enough time for trumpster to nominate another justice before the
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:42 PM
Sep 2018

midterms, and McConnell has made it very clear this vote will take place before the midterms

Even though the odds favor them in the Senate, they aren't going to risk it



Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. If the FBI investigation is serious, McConnell will withdraw him.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:51 PM
Sep 2018

Otherwise, republicans take a real beating at the polls, with Heitkamp, Rosen and Semena pulling out wins. Kavanaugh not being withdrawn also helps Nelson, O'Rourke and Tester big.

hlthe2b

(102,331 posts)
5. Per WAPO, FBI has refused to launch investigation of letter, instead sending it over to WH
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:27 PM
Sep 2018

for consideration in terms of security clearance and also back to Senate Judiciary Committee. The first part of this is what they did with Rob Porter
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/feinstein-says-she-referred-letter-concerning-kavanaugh-to-federal-investigators/2018/09/13/d99cfb1c-b775-11e8-a7b5-adaaa5b2a57f_story.html?utm_term=.a0493a8002fe

RockRaven

(14,985 posts)
9. I think there very well may be a SC Jus Kav; it has little to do with what they do/don't find on him
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:32 PM
Sep 2018

There's a timing/election issue at play. If they give up on Kav, and Trump has to choose a new one, and they have to have new hearings, etc. there is a risk that they won't get it done by the end of the term. They certainly won't get it done before the election if they have to choose a new nominee.

The likelier it looks that Dems could take the Senate, the likelier the GOP is to confirm Kav just to confirm ANYONE. They don't want to wait until November to know for sure if they need to do it in the lame duck session or not. They will do it just to have it done, regardless of how corrupt or terrible he is.

ecstatic

(32,727 posts)
10. Good. Hopefully none of the other assholes on trump's RW list
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:32 PM
Sep 2018

are hypocritical, RW activist scum like Kavanaugh.

onenote

(42,737 posts)
11. He'll be confirmed.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:32 PM
Sep 2018

And what makes you think that he's the only justice that thinks trump should be immune from investigation (and if he is the only one, doesn't that mean there is a majority that doesn't think that?)

Initech

(100,097 posts)
15. Yup this is so fucked up.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:37 PM
Sep 2018

Their interests win 9 times out of 10, no matter how wrong they are on the issue. Kavanaugh is about as wrong as it gets!

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
22. Still waiting for anyone to source that claim....
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 10:17 PM
Sep 2018

Lots of reason to oppose him but no evidence anywhere of "gambling" issues.
Where does this meme come from? Wishful thinking or a reputable source?

rlegro

(338 posts)
23. Two things
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 10:39 PM
Sep 2018

1. If a handful of quasi-moderate GOP senators are taking enough heat back home, enough might be persuaded to vote no on Kavanaugh, although I doubt it. Even if reason could peel off one or two, several Democratic senators in swing states seem poised to vote yes.

2. Even so, Kavanaugh's lifetime appointment might be subject to reconsideration through the means of post-confirmation investigations that produce new scandals, or possibly leading to impeachment. Only one U.S. justice has ever been impeached. Another, Abe Fortas, was forced to resign or face impeachment for accepting gifts from wealthy cronies who conceivably might have cases of interest before the court. Justice Clarence Thomas has accepted similar gifts without incident and it seems as if Kavanaugh might have had help paying for his family's lavish lifestyle, running up six-figure debts that magically disappeared in the year before Trump nominated him.

 
29. Wish I Were That Optimistic
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 10:58 PM
Sep 2018

The repubs are simply playing the numbers game. If a story came out about Kavanaugh shooting someone on 5th Avenue, I still am fairly certain they would still get their 51 votes.

Honestly, I still see him getting 53-54 votes, thanks to the help of a few Democrats joining in as an effort to get re-elected.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
30. I also predict that when it is all said and done, he can add a divorce to the list.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 11:44 PM
Sep 2018

I don't think he will end up with the job if for no other reason than the 5 lies (so far). I don't think the high school fiasco will kill his nomination, but then it depends on what he did. If he is so against abortion yet talked some girlfriend into getting one, that could add to the 5 possible perjuries and tie a knot on any possibility of a lifetime salary.


Trump wanted him because they seem to be birds of a feather. I think Kavanaugh is about as slimy as Trump...just not to that degree. I think they will find an interesting story behind the credit card debt, for one. Who, in their right mind would run up or charge $200K to a credit card unless it was interest free on outstanding balances?

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
31. I totally agree
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 12:24 AM
Sep 2018

I was thinking about his motivation for bringing his kids on opening day. Pure theater, but for what real reason ?
As bad as republicans want this seat filled with his ideological traits, it may be a bridge too far as the questions - and answers- come into focus the next day or so and the weekend

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