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highplainsdem

(49,006 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:26 PM Sep 2018

Trump just now, re Puerto Rican deaths: FIFTY TIMES LAST ORIGINAL NUMBER - NO WAY!










“When Trump visited the island territory last October, OFFICIALS told him in a briefing 16 PEOPLE had died from Maria.” The Washington Post. This was long AFTER the hurricane took place. Over many months it went to 64 PEOPLE. Then, like magic, “3000 PEOPLE KILLED.” They hired....


....GWU Research to tell them how many people had died in Puerto Rico (how would they not know this?). This method was never done with previous hurricanes because other jurisdictions know how many people were killed. FIFTY TIMES LAST ORIGINAL NUMBER - NO WAY!

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Trump just now, re Puerto Rican deaths: FIFTY TIMES LAST ORIGINAL NUMBER - NO WAY! (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2018 OP
way! n/t dweller Sep 2018 #1
What the fuck is wrong with him? HopeAgain Sep 2018 #2
He can't wipe the blood from his hands. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2018 #24
Taking the news cycle away from Manafort. sarcasmo Sep 2018 #25
Well, that's not happening. PubliusEnigma Sep 2018 #27
He's angry, scared....Manafort flipped... FarPoint Sep 2018 #26
Has nobody ever told Spanky about the First Rule of Holes? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #3
He's always too busy digging to listen. highplainsdem Sep 2018 #4
But his base is there digging right along side him. GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #21
Some people don't know when to STFU. nt Xipe Totec Sep 2018 #5
Like magic? Does he think this is a fucking game? NT Bleacher Creature Sep 2018 #6
Yes. sheshe2 Sep 2018 #29
I thought the WP was fake news? Yet he is quoting them? Solly Mack Sep 2018 #7
Trump thinks attacking Hispanics activates his racist base. IluvPitties Sep 2018 #8
FIFTY TIMES DUMBER THAN LAST ORIGINAL ESTIMATE. dalton99a Sep 2018 #9
LOL! highplainsdem Sep 2018 #16
Hey! Don't you remember he got an A+ ? Liberal In Texas Sep 2018 #23
Why does it take 18 min to post the second tweet? uppityperson Sep 2018 #10
Daniel Dale: What is the feeling you feel while waiting a long time for the second half of a two- highplainsdem Sep 2018 #13
Thank you uppityperson Sep 2018 #19
He has to look each word up in an abbreviated dictionary. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2018 #14
He sure as hell isn't spending time proofing them! NT Bleacher Creature Sep 2018 #15
His leg fell asleep on the toilet Blue Owl Sep 2018 #31
It's not him. It's a staffer. Kellyanne? Roland99 Sep 2018 #11
see... this is how to respond to this.......... Takket Sep 2018 #12
Ascertainment of the estimated excess mortality from Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico struggle4progress Sep 2018 #17
He can't let anything go. madaboutharry Sep 2018 #18
Study Puts Puerto Rico Death Toll From Hurricane Maria Near 5,000 struggle4progress Sep 2018 #20
Imagine that, humans die when deprived of food, water and shelter NickB79 Sep 2018 #22
Yes way! oasis Sep 2018 #28
Shut the fuck up Donny. Initech Sep 2018 #30
"LAST ORIGINAL NUMBER"??? What is a last original? uppityperson Sep 2018 #32

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
24. He can't wipe the blood from his hands.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:17 PM
Sep 2018

He is counting up his victims.

Hard to rationalize the irrational.

FarPoint

(12,412 posts)
26. He's angry, scared....Manafort flipped...
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:27 PM
Sep 2018

He is trying to deflect attention away from the Manafort BIG NEWS....but tRump is dribbling spittal on his chin....try to spew anything outrageous to change the subject...

Solly Mack

(90,775 posts)
7. I thought the WP was fake news? Yet he is quoting them?
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:33 PM
Sep 2018

That man is willfully ignorant and he revels in his ignorance.

highplainsdem

(49,006 posts)
13. Daniel Dale: What is the feeling you feel while waiting a long time for the second half of a two-
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:41 PM
Sep 2018

part Bonkers Trump Tweet?





Love the replies...

Takket

(21,582 posts)
12. see... this is how to respond to this..........
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:36 PM
Sep 2018

GWU needs to come out and stand by its report, and hold a press conference. During the conference they need to simply say that they would welcome a public debate with Drumpf to compare their facts and figures with theirs.

He will of course want NOTHING to do with that... and will not reply.

Just as good? Offer to accept debate with a member of H&HS department. put one of drumpf's minions on the line to defend the president. this eliminates the "drumpf is too busy" excuse.

ask him for receipts!!!

struggle4progress

(118,309 posts)
17. Ascertainment of the estimated excess mortality from Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:49 PM
Sep 2018

... Our excess mortality study analyzed past mortality patterns (mortality registration and population census data from 2010 to 2017) in order to predict the expected mortality if Hurricane María had not occurred (predicted mortality) and compare this figure to the actual deaths that occurred (observed mortality).The difference between those two numbers is the estimate of excess mortality ...

Risk of death was higher and persistent until the end of the study period for populations living in low socioeconomic development municipalities (a ratio of 1.5 at the end of February 2018). Older males (65+) experienced continuous elevated risk of death through February, while most other groups approach the baseline mortality risk at 2 and 4 months post-hurricane, and all do so by February ...

https://publichealth.gwu.edu/sites/default/files/downloads/projects/PRstudy/Acertainment%20of%20the%20Estimated%20Excess%20Mortality%20from%20Hurricane%20Maria%20in%20Puerto%20Rico.pdf

struggle4progress

(118,309 posts)
20. Study Puts Puerto Rico Death Toll From Hurricane Maria Near 5,000
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:52 PM
Sep 2018

May 29, 201810:10 AM ET
Heard on All Things Considered
RICHARD HARRIS

... The New York Times compared official death records from September and October 2017 and identified more than 1,000 excess deaths, compared with the average for 2015 and 2016. Alexis Santos, a researcher at Penn State University, and a colleague, used death certificates to come up with a similar estimate.

The government of Puerto Rico commissioned researchers from George Washington University's Milken Institute School of Public Health to estimate excess deaths. Results of that study have been delayed and are due out this summer. "We have always expected the number to be higher than what was previously reported," said Carlos Mercader, executive director of the Puerto Rico Federal Affairs Administration. He says that's why it commissioned the study from GW. "Both studies will help us better prepare for future natural disasters and prevent lives from being lost."

Caroline Buckee, a lead author of the news and epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, says, "Our approach is complementary to that and it provides a different kind of estimate and a different kind of insight into the impact of the hurricane." The researchers suggested that the government in Puerto Rico could use its methods in an even larger survey to reduce the large uncertainties in their findings.

The Harvard study covers a greater time period than The New York Times' calculation, a difference that could partly account for the much higher figure ...

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/05/29/615120123/study-puts-puerto-rico-death-toll-at-5-000-from-hurricane-maria-in-2017

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
22. Imagine that, humans die when deprived of food, water and shelter
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:09 PM
Sep 2018

God help any pets that dumb fucker had as a kid.

"What do you mean I have to feed the dog again? I just fed him last week!"

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