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Does anyone know if there is a way to BLOCK Trump's FEMA "emergency test" phone (Original Post) Atticus Sep 2018 OP
Apparently not. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #1
Everything I've seen says there's nothing we can do to block it Siwsan Sep 2018 #2
That is my concern as well, Siwsan. sheshe2 Sep 2018 #5
And veiled threats Siwsan Sep 2018 #9
That too. sheshe2 Sep 2018 #12
I want to know if fake texts can be sent supposedly from a phone. nolabear Sep 2018 #21
I just don't know anymore. nt sheshe2 Sep 2018 #22
This just enrages me. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #16
There is not. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2018 #3
How about everyone turn their phones off C_U_L8R Sep 2018 #7
Would that even "register"? i.e., would anyone know? nt? Atticus Sep 2018 #10
They would know C_U_L8R Sep 2018 #11
What, pray tell, are WEA compatible cell phones? PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2018 #30
Yes, don't own a cell phone. llmart Sep 2018 #4
I'm going to turn my cell off from 11am (2pm Eastern) underthematrix Sep 2018 #6
I have an iPhone and can turn off Goverment Alerts in settings. Claritie Pixie Sep 2018 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2018 #13
This is a fact based community. The facts are important. GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #14
That's true, but the test will be a message from Donald Trump. Girard442 Sep 2018 #29
Well then the republicans will pay a real price GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #34
Thank you. The reactions are a little over the top. It's Obama-signed FEMA. nt Hekate Sep 2018 #31
I understand it's a text alert. Disable your text function? TygrBright Sep 2018 #15
Yours is the PERFECT response, my dear TygrBright! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2018 #26
I ask again. Doreen Sep 2018 #17
11:18am pacific time Thursday. unblock Sep 2018 #19
Thank You. Doreen Sep 2018 #24
Not sure, but that might mean you'll just get the text when you finally turn it on.... unblock Sep 2018 #25
I can delete it without having to see it. Doreen Sep 2018 #27
Oh, brother. It's a FEMA test. Let it work now Hortensis Sep 2018 #18
It's just going to be some boilerplate text. Post-trump it could be pretty handy tool. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2018 #20
AFAIK, you're phone is not "off" as long as it still has power. Remove the battery or put it in a erronis Sep 2018 #23
I hope he just calls me direct. I have some things to say. Respectfully. Kinda. dameatball Sep 2018 #28
Just turn your phone off between 2-3. Blue_true Sep 2018 #32
Anyone online in any respect has already given away their privacy. Actually, not given exactly... Hekate Sep 2018 #33
Lord, this is turning into the liberal version of Jade Helm. GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #35
Yes, it certainly seems to be. nt Hekate Sep 2018 #36
We had that chance in November 2016 maxrandb Sep 2018 #37

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,826 posts)
1. Apparently not.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:25 PM
Sep 2018
The presidential alert is one of three kinds of alerts in the FEMA's WEA system, which also notifies the public about extreme weather or missing children, also known as AMBER alerts.

You can expect to see the alert pop up on your phone at 2:18 p.m. ET so long as you have your phone turned on, are within range of a cell tower, and if your wireless provider is part of the WEA system.

The WEA test will be broadcast over the course of about 30 minutes and sound the same as an AMBER Alert. Users can't opt out of the presidential alert test, according to FEMA.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/15/politics/fema-presidential-alert-trump-emergency-test/index.html

If you turn off your phone the message will probably pop up when you turn it back on again. We can't escape. I'll switch mine off just to see if the phone stores the message.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
2. Everything I've seen says there's nothing we can do to block it
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:25 PM
Sep 2018

I'm concerned this is just the start of what he's going to do, when it comes to sending texts to our phones.

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
21. I want to know if fake texts can be sent supposedly from a phone.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:12 PM
Sep 2018

Police and jealous lovers and all kinds of people can infer quite a few things from text records. Can they be manipulated someday?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
16. This just enrages me.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:01 PM
Sep 2018

I do not want to hear from him EVER. I feel like this is a violation of our privacy. Where will the line be drawn?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,395 posts)
3. There is not.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:25 PM
Sep 2018
https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test

12. Why can I not opt out of the Presidential Alert category on my cell phone?

The Communications Act of 1934 established the authority for the President to use certain private sector communications systems for priority communications, such as sending alert and warning messages to the public, during national emergencies. The implementation of this legislation is what enables the Emergency Alert System to be used by government authorities at all levels of government to send alert and warnings via private sector radio, television and cable stations in coordination with the private sector station owners. In 2006, The Warning, Alert, and Response Network (WARN) Act of 2006 prompted the Federal Communications Commission to adopt regulations enabling the wireless industry to participate in the distribution of public alerts and warnings also. The WARN Act further established that the wireless alerting service should allow wireless subscribers the capability of opting out of receiving alerts, other than an alert issued by the President.


On the other hand, depending on your phone/carrier/location, you may not receive an alert at all:

13. Why will some phones receive the alert and others will not?

Only WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on and within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA will be capable of receiving the test message.

C_U_L8R

(45,018 posts)
7. How about everyone turn their phones off
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:30 PM
Sep 2018

at 2:15 and leave them off for, say, 40 or 60 minutes?
Could be quite an ad hoc protest.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,879 posts)
30. What, pray tell, are WEA compatible cell phones?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:35 PM
Sep 2018

How can I figure out if that's the kind of phone I have?

I suspect that only "smart" phones are in that category. Lucky me, no smart phone here. I have a fairly dumb one (other phones make fun of it and won't play with it at recess) although it can make and receive texts. I think I continue to be glad I have a dumb phone. (I give it pep talks daily, tell it those other phones are just meanies and to ignore them.)

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
6. I'm going to turn my cell off from 11am (2pm Eastern)
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:30 PM
Sep 2018

until 11:30 (2:30pm)

I've a;ready turned off my notifications.

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
8. I have an iPhone and can turn off Goverment Alerts in settings.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:31 PM
Sep 2018

I will turn that setting to OFF on Thursday.

Response to Atticus (Original post)

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
14. This is a fact based community. The facts are important.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:47 PM
Sep 2018

This is not a Trump program. It was passed with bi-partisan support and signed into law by President Obama.

Certainly not saying Trump will not try to abuse it, but this was not created as a nefarious plot.

In my opinion if he did try to use it for nefarious means, it would be the most personally damaging thing he would have done yet. No one, conservative or liberal likes the idea of government controlling their phones. Or even knowing where they are.

Girard442

(6,083 posts)
29. That's true, but the test will be a message from Donald Trump.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:34 PM
Sep 2018

There was no reason for this to be about him, but it is. He's already abusing it.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
34. Well then the republicans will pay a real price
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:07 PM
Sep 2018

Most people excepting his wingnut supporters will be repulsed at the idea of the president sending them politicized texts on a pushed text.

Let’s wait and see what really happens before getting worked up about it.

Might be more mojo for the blue wave. More likely a non event. Americans do not do traditional media anymore. The Emergency Alerts we all grew up with are reaching less and less of our fellow Americans.

President Obama and 100% of congress realized we needed to update the system.

TygrBright

(20,763 posts)
15. I understand it's a text alert. Disable your text function?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:56 PM
Sep 2018

We actually pay to block texts on our cell phone service and my Nokia phone doesn't have a text function, so I don't expect to get any howdies from Weehands McNodick.

::hat tip to the Ferret::

serenely,
Bright

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
17. I ask again.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:01 PM
Sep 2018

Please tell me what time it will happen in PT. I can turn my phone off for the time being and can delete the text without having to look at it when I turn it back on.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
24. Thank You.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:12 PM
Sep 2018

I will have it off for about an hour. I think I can survive without my cell for that long.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
27. I can delete it without having to see it.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:19 PM
Sep 2018

If my phone was on I would have to see it first but when my phone goes on from off I do not have to look.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Oh, brother. It's a FEMA test. Let it work now
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:05 PM
Sep 2018

and hope the Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEA) system works well when you need it. I'm sure we've paid a lot of money for it.

I don't like that ass playing with it for self aggrandizement, either, but then I also don't like having to live with all those people who voted like asses or refused to vote like asses. Trump is the reflection in a mirror too many Americans don't dare look into.

erronis

(15,328 posts)
23. AFAIK, you're phone is not "off" as long as it still has power. Remove the battery or put it in a
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:42 PM
Sep 2018

Faraday shield (really just wrap it in 2-3 layers of tinfoil.)

With my new android phone that says it's water-proof, I may wait until his text comes in to drop it in the toilet before my AM dump.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
32. Just turn your phone off between 2-3.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:41 PM
Sep 2018

You can read incoming texts later, or just delete them without reading.

I considered turning my phone off, but will leave it on. I want to see what the idiot texts.

Hekate

(90,773 posts)
33. Anyone online in any respect has already given away their privacy. Actually, not given exactly...
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:46 PM
Sep 2018

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But we have all paid handsomely for the privilege of losing our privacy, not to the government per se, but to corporate entities who collect every scrap of information and who follow you around electronically via your cell phones and iPads.

People, you give it all away for the privilege of posting on Face Book and using a smart phone. What did you think was going to happen?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
35. Lord, this is turning into the liberal version of Jade Helm.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:24 PM
Sep 2018

President Obama signed this into law because our old emergency response system relied on network TV and over the airwaves Radio, which fewer and fewer people use.

Don’t fall for the hyperbole

If it gets abused, then take action.

But like President Obama felt, it seems like a good idea.

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