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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:01 PM Sep 2018

Franklin Graham: Attempted rape not a crime. Kavanaugh "respected" his victim by not finishing.

Franklin Graham began by first saying that Kavanaugh’s attempted rape was “not relevant”:

It's just a shame that a person like Judge Kavanaugh who has a stellar record--that somebody can bring something up that he did as a teenager close to 40 years ago. That's not relevant.

Why he chose to try to justify the crime when Kavanaugh’s entire defense is that he never did it wasn't just unnecessary, it exposed Graham’s truly immoral character.

But then he said something so terrible, I couldn’t believe it.

During the same Christian Broadcast Network’s interview with the evangelical leader, he was asked about the kind of message that might send to sexual abuse victims. His response:

Well, there wasn't a crime committed. These are two teenagers and it's obvious that she said no and he respected it and walked away...

He just flat out says that's not true. Regardless if it was true, these are two teenagers and she said no and he respected that so I don't know what the issue is.

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/19/1797143/-Graham-Attempted-rape-not-a-crime-Kavanaugh-respected-his-victim-by-not-finishing

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Franklin Graham: Attempted rape not a crime. Kavanaugh "respected" his victim by not finishing. (Original Post) JonLP24 Sep 2018 OP
Um. He said it never happened. She said it did and she was able to break free when his drunk buddy Freethinker65 Sep 2018 #1
Obviously drunk buddy was one who stopped it. George Eliot Sep 2018 #4
Whoa! PatSeg Sep 2018 #2
You idiotic con, he was so drunk, she was apparently able to finally throw him off and escape. Frustratedlady Sep 2018 #3
Maybe hand over mouth to prevent her from saying no and screaming for help? George Eliot Sep 2018 #7
Lie and call yourself a man of Gawd. deminks Sep 2018 #5
Why does anybody regard Franklin Graham as a moral authority? mythology Sep 2018 #6
He was just as bad in High School....perhaps worse GoneRonin Sep 2018 #14
God these assholes are so fucking disgusting!!!!! Initech Sep 2018 #8
Yep. And his father was an asshole, too. BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #12
So, Graham, area51 Sep 2018 #9
Graham is Showing the World How Very Twisted He Really Is dlk Sep 2018 #10
Not just him atreides1 Sep 2018 #19
Kavanaugh didn't "finish" his assault because his victim got away gratuitous Sep 2018 #11
Millions adore and follow this man. Millions. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #13
Way to keep it Christian! dchill Sep 2018 #15
Daddy would be proud! GeorgeGist Sep 2018 #16
Yes repubs, keep talking about rape. You always do so well with this topic. unitedwethrive Sep 2018 #17
Franklin Graham is a sick twisted man katmondoo Sep 2018 #18
Franklin Graham is "not relevant." IllinoisBirdWatcher Sep 2018 #20
Sadly, he is Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2018 #22
Unfortunately, he is... ck4829 Sep 2018 #25
What An Entitled Punk ProfessorGAC Sep 2018 #21
That turbine-like whining sound Turbineguy Sep 2018 #23
It most certainly is a crime. It's called sexual assault. JaneQPublic Sep 2018 #24
Franklin Graham is a sick shit of a human being, pangaia Sep 2018 #26

Freethinker65

(10,029 posts)
1. Um. He said it never happened. She said it did and she was able to break free when his drunk buddy
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:04 PM
Sep 2018

Drunk buddy jumped on top of them.

So Graham is full of shit, which is nothing new.

George Eliot

(701 posts)
4. Obviously drunk buddy was one who stopped it.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:07 PM
Sep 2018

Which is why he doesn't want to testify under oath. He's got a conscience.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
3. You idiotic con, he was so drunk, she was apparently able to finally throw him off and escape.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:06 PM
Sep 2018

How could he know she said NO if he had his hand over her mouth to muffle her screaming?

You'd do best to keep your thoughts to yourself. Your bias is showing!

George Eliot

(701 posts)
7. Maybe hand over mouth to prevent her from saying no and screaming for help?
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:11 PM
Sep 2018

You think? Besides, it's already been described as Judge jumping on top and breaking it up.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
6. Why does anybody regard Franklin Graham as a moral authority?
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:08 PM
Sep 2018

There was an insightful interview from The New Yorker podcast recently where he said some other absurd things about Trump.

GoneRonin

(25 posts)
14. He was just as bad in High School....perhaps worse
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:21 PM
Sep 2018

In this area in particular I know for SURE Franklin Graham is a hypocrite...he "dropped out" of my High School in New York. He was also expelled from at least one other school.

The story from men who were his schoolmates at the time was that Franklin Graham would get into fights and stealing a car was the final straw....this was a Christian boarding school....and to remove Billy Graham son for any reason.....it must have been at least that.

Initech

(100,090 posts)
8. God these assholes are so fucking disgusting!!!!!
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:11 PM
Sep 2018

People like Franklin Graham are why I don't go to church.

area51

(11,916 posts)
9. So, Graham,
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:12 PM
Sep 2018

if attempted rape isn't a crime in your mind, you won't file a complaint if someone attempted it on you, right?

dlk

(11,574 posts)
10. Graham is Showing the World How Very Twisted He Really Is
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:14 PM
Sep 2018

These are the ravings of a very sick man.

atreides1

(16,084 posts)
19. Not just him
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:41 PM
Sep 2018

His entire organization is twisted...his religious beliefs are that of a deviant!!!!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Kavanaugh didn't "finish" his assault because his victim got away
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:15 PM
Sep 2018

What the hell does that even mean?! If someone trapped Franklin Graham and was in the process of doing unspeakable things to him, but was too sockless hammered to "finish," would Franklin still think that a crime hadn't been committed on him?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
13. Millions adore and follow this man. Millions.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:17 PM
Sep 2018

We are done talking, and we just dont know it.

Putin runs the WH, GOP are all traitors, we are going to have a real big problem soon.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
17. Yes repubs, keep talking about rape. You always do so well with this topic.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:30 PM
Sep 2018

The more they talk, the better it is for us.

ck4829

(35,078 posts)
25. Unfortunately, he is...
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 01:33 PM
Sep 2018

Any evangelical who supported the Iraq War because it would bring on the "end times" needs to be resisted.

ProfessorGAC

(65,111 posts)
21. What An Entitled Punk
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:44 PM
Sep 2018

Grew up rich from his dad's grifting and is still at it, plus a dollop of "even worse".

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
24. It most certainly is a crime. It's called sexual assault.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 02:00 PM
Sep 2018

Frankie isn't a lawyer; he's a preacher and a pretty lousy one at that, since he apparently hasn't a clue what Jesus was all about.

https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/sexual-assault-overview.html

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
26. Franklin Graham is a sick shit of a human being,
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 01:37 PM
Sep 2018

even worse than his deranged father, if one can believe that.

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