Dennis Prager: "Should anyone be held responsible for crimes committed at 17?"

[mahatmakanejeeves]

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FROM THE TOP GODDANG ROPE.

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"“Should anyone be held responsible for crimes committed at 17?” Prager asked… It’s a good question for Reynolds Wintersmith of Illinois, who was sentenced to life in prison in 1994 for selling crack when he was 17.”

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[redstatebluegirl]

1. If he did this once, he did it more than once.

I totally understand why women are afraid to come forward but I assure you there are more than one.

[GusBob]

2. Not everyone, but for sure a SC justice nominee

Way different standards

[shraby]

3. If he wants a seat on the Supreme Court, he sure as hell should be held responsible

for his actions and he also needs to forget about that seat.
We don't need a sex pervert on the Supremes. They put one on and that's more than enough.

[lapfog_1]

4. here's hoping a seventeen year old shoots Dennis Prager

and tries to use these words as his or her defense strategy.

[dalton99a]

23. +1

[smirkymonkey]

32. If only!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Trump thought the Central Park Five, all of whom were under 17 (one only 14),

should be executed even after DNA testing exonerated them. In most states people can be tried as adults if they are at least 14. And if a teenager can't be held responsible for attempted rape at 17, what about when he's 18? 19? 23? 30? Is there a sliding scale depending on age?

[Brainstormy]

8. Beat me to it, but very much on point

He ran full page ads asking for the death penalty, and definitely knew their ages

[NRaleighLiberal]

6. So I guess according to the GOP, we can start emptying the jails, esp for minor drug charges

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. Only well-to-do white kids who went to prestigious private schools

and whose parents were judges and lawyers. But then, those kids probably were never charged in the first place, let alone convicted.

[FloridaBlues]

7. Ask that to juveniles who got time for what they did, it stays with them a long time

If Dr Ford reported this at the time he would be served with committing a crime
Attempted rape of minor.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. No, he wouldn't have. He was white, well-off, went to a posh private school,

and his dad was a lawyer and his mother was a judge. We know how those kids are treated - at the most it would have been a misdemeanor charge; the file would have been sealed because he was a minor, and probably later expunged.

[Solly Mack]

11. He should have been held accountable then, most certainly.

And had he been held accountable then, we wouldn't be talking about a sexual predator sitting on the Supreme Court now. (Maybe)

I can't help but think that a lot of the insanely ignorant comments being made are coming from people who believe rape and other forms of sexual assault are no big deal.

For whatever reasons, none of them good, they have decided that sexual assault isn't the heinous violation it actually is for the victims.

They don't care either.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. But he wouldn't have been held accountable then. See #10.

Affluenza plus white male privilege. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

[Solly Mack]

15. I'm all too aware of the unlikelihood of his being held accountable then but that doesn't change the

"should" part of my comment.

He should have been held accountable. And in a better society, he would have been.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

16. Should, yes. But the people in Hell want ice water.

As an old lawyer friend of mine once said, "How much justice can you afford?"

[Solly Mack]

17. True. A lot of factors add up to deny people justice.

None of them fair.

[Bettie]

13. Wealthy white guys

are almost never held to any standard or receive consequences for their actions. That's why they are so angry about Mueller. He has already put some rich white dudes in prison and doesn't seem to be done yet.

[samnsara]

14. ...when the victim was 15...yep you bet!! held accountable as an adult...

...no S of Limitations in Md

[Demovictory9]

18. Dennis Prager is a biased racist sexist nut who has convinced himself that he is free from bias

[Solomon]

25. Exactly. I've heard the prick pontificate on

"moral" matters and I couldn't believe the stunning hypocrisy. We have a saying about people like him: He thinks his shit don't stink.

[Demovictory9]

38. "pontificate" is the right word

[BumRushDaShow]

19. The Affluenza Defense has now emerged.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

20. Yup. You know that's exactly what would have happened if the assault had been reported

right after it occurred. Well-off white kid, mom's a judge, dad's a lawyer. What are the chances he'd have been charged with anything? A kid like that almost has to be an axe murderer to be charged with anything, then or now.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. "A kid like that almost has to be an axe murderer to be charged with anything"

Even then, you can kill 4 while drunk and get probation.

[davsand]

21. Let's try this question another way.

If you KILL somebody at 17 are they still dead a couple of decades later? Why, yes. YES they are. Pretty sure that family still misses them and that their loss is still painful. Violent crime is that permanent, and you can't legitimately say it isn't.

Assault and attempted rape are not crimes of momentary passion, it's about power and dominance. Always ahs been. Always will be. That isn't play, it isn't hi-jinx. It's violence and you are accountable for that shit your entire life.

Dumbass.





Laura

[uponit7771]

22. For Red Don only if you're non white then you should be punished the rest of your life

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. Al Franken BEGS for an investigation, This nazi avoids it at all costs

know why?

Al is innocent, nazi isnt

[dchill]

27. Hey, Prager - Kavanaugh is not on trial.

He's up for a lifetime seat on the United States Goddam Supreme Court! If you're willing to admit the idea that he did it, shouldn't you want someone who just simply DID NOT?

[DBoon]

28. yes - thousands of young men in prison are held responsible for crimes committed at 17

Unlike BK, they are not white and not affluent

When they get out of prison, they will have a hard time getting any sort of job

They could never hope to become a supreme court justice

[CanonRay]

29. Only 17 year olds who are not white, of course.

[tazkcmo]

30. Over 2200 juveniles

Serving life sentences. I didn't bother with sentences of 10 years or more or those that paid with their life as in Treyvon Martin and Tamir Rice.

[Ilsa]

31. This was a crime with a victim letting him know in that moment

that what he was doing was immediately hurting her, and he didn't care. Does a 17 year old know not to beat up old ladies or push someone on crutches down the stairs? There is a certain amount of criminal activity that I believe children and minors understand.

These boys were daredevils with gambler issues that dared themselves to get caught. The victims were collateral damage for them.

[smirkymonkey]

33. Anyone who isn't a rich, white, prep-school boy.

But if you are, you have carte-blanche. Don't worry! You will never see the inside of a prison.

[meow2u3]

34. Short answer: hell, yes!!

Slightly longer answer: hell yeah, especially if the accused 17-year-old is a son of a rich, conservative white. In other words, we should treat these spoiled rich kids like they do women, the poor, and minorities--shabbily!!

[dreamland]

35. How old were the school shooters again?

I'm sure that according to this logic, they should've been given a free pass.

[GoCubsGo]

36. When the crime is attempted rape,

you're goddamn right they should. You fuckers want to try 11- and 12-year-olds as adults for a lot less than that. All of a sudden we're supposed to look away for a 17-year-old? These people are sickening. Absolutely sickening.

[pansypoo53219]

37. BLACK MEN ARE ALL THE TIME. GTFO

[roamer65]

39. Yes.

It should be investigated by the FBI and if just cause is found, the crime should be tried in Maryland court.

[Grins]

40. "Take my wife. Please."

If you read Prager's shitty tome you would also see that he soon takes on female "empowerment", and not well.

"Empowers women"? Please.

When my wife was a waitress in her midteens, the manager of her restaurant grabbed her breasts and squeezed them on numerous occasions. She told him to buzz off, figured out how to avoid being in places where they were alone and continued going about her job. That's empowerment.

No. That's powerless submission to authority. You'd think a real Reich-wing authoritarian™ would have known that.

In translation: Dennis Prager would have had no problem had it been his now-wife in Christine Ford's position in 1982. When she was 15. Because she would have been empowered!

(At deadline, the 3rd Ms. Prager was not available for comment.)