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The smart play for the GOP would be to dump Kavanaugh (Original Post) oberliner Sep 2018 OP
That's the thing, there are others (equally conservative & wanting to take us back to the dark ages) FM123 Sep 2018 #1
Trump has been known to bail oberliner Sep 2018 #2
Yes, that's how he does business: Cutting his losses and walking away. DetlefK Sep 2018 #4
I am predicting we end up with Barrett oberliner Sep 2018 #5
I think D_Master81 Sep 2018 #3
Can the Democrats really win the Senate? oberliner Sep 2018 #6
Probably not and it has made me wonder ...they Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #30
Yes, but Democrats will win the House & Senate with a winning message of InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #7
My 2 cents - They are more afraid of a embarrassing defeat underpants Sep 2018 #11
THIS Cosmocat Sep 2018 #31
I hear the hope in your voice, but no. Barrett won't go through. Squinch Sep 2018 #8
Which Republicans would vote against her? oberliner Sep 2018 #9
The problem with Barrett is she's assumed to be solidly in favor of overturning Roe jcgoldie Sep 2018 #12
Wouldn't she give the "settled law" line? oberliner Sep 2018 #15
perhaps... jcgoldie Sep 2018 #21
What your fear, she might not make it? marble falls Sep 2018 #13
No, I think she would get confirmed oberliner Sep 2018 #16
If they were smart says it all , they're not duforsure Sep 2018 #10
Exactly oberliner Sep 2018 #17
If they dump Kavanaugh, it will be on their terms and with their spin DFW Sep 2018 #14
Well said oberliner Sep 2018 #18
Is this a GOP site or something? Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #19
No. But it does have some GOP posters. Squinch Sep 2018 #20
Sure does. Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #22
And one of them is earning his pay today. Squinch Sep 2018 #23
I think we are being taunted. Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #24
Think Tank or Think tank ? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #25
#2 I believe. Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #26
"It's a riddle wrapped in an enigma." DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #28
Puzzling, how ? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #32
The OP seems to just be analyzing the opponent's playbook. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2018 #34
She's not a member of the right class. QC Sep 2018 #27
Why? Cousin Dupree Sep 2018 #29
Because they can still get their RW justice oberliner Sep 2018 #33
Shhhh! KPN Sep 2018 #35
Trump wants Kavanaugh due to his position against indicting sitting POTUS. honest.abe Sep 2018 #36

FM123

(10,054 posts)
1. That's the thing, there are others (equally conservative & wanting to take us back to the dark ages)
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 07:09 AM
Sep 2018

to choose from - but trumpy wants that Brat Kavanaugh.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. Yes, that's how he does business: Cutting his losses and walking away.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 07:12 AM
Sep 2018

It's weird that he's not doing that.

Drunk on power? Delusional?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. I am predicting we end up with Barrett
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 07:13 AM
Sep 2018

And he will hold a grudge against Collins/Murkowski and whoever else.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
3. I think
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 07:11 AM
Sep 2018

It is my opinion that the GOP is worried about losing the Senate and that the Dems wouldnt confirm anyone that Trump will nominate. So they will take the short term hit to pack the court for the next 30-40 years. Once the Dems are back in power the GOP will fire up their base and be back in power shortly after. So people thinking this could hurt the GOP are only thinking over the next 2 yrs, they're playing the long game.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. Can the Democrats really win the Senate?
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 07:14 AM
Sep 2018

The House, yes, but the Senate is still a pretty big long shot, isn't it?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
30. Probably not and it has made me wonder ...they
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 08:51 AM
Sep 2018

Could be in a better position to push someone through in January.

So what's the rush? Worried Trump's going done? Nah..pence would surely appointment someone equally bad.

Or is it this ?


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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
7. Yes, but Democrats will win the House & Senate with a winning message of
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 07:15 AM
Sep 2018

impeaching KKKavanaugh AND Toadstool... so it's a win-win!!

underpants

(182,883 posts)
11. My 2 cents - They are more afraid of a embarrassing defeat
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 07:23 AM
Sep 2018

First, Kavanaugh is purely a political operative. He's paid his dues in their minds.

Second, this would be a devastatingly embarrassing defeat for the Repubs which could really hurt their turn out in November. The believers could be so outraged by their seeming weakness that they don't turn out....OR it could energize them to turn out. With that group of whackos who knows.

Lastly, I do agree that they want to pack the court and they will stop at nothing towards that end.

jcgoldie

(11,647 posts)
12. The problem with Barrett is she's assumed to be solidly in favor of overturning Roe
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 07:25 AM
Sep 2018

... which would make it very hard for Collins and Murkowski to vote yes and even give a semblance of saving face. Although based on SUsan Collins'statements and actions during the Kavanaugh hearings, I am not sure how sincere she is on that issue...

jcgoldie

(11,647 posts)
21. perhaps...
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 08:06 AM
Sep 2018

....

Barrett, a longtime Notre Dame law professor appointed by President Trump last year to the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, in legal articles has backed a “soft” and “flexible” interpretation of the legal principle honoring Supreme Court precedents, stare decisis.

“I tend to agree with those who say that a justice’s duty is to the Constitution and that it is thus more legitimate for her to enforce her best understanding of the Constitution rather than a precedent she thinks is clearly in conflict with it,” she wrote in 2013 in the Texas Law Review.

....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/amy-coney-barrett-possible-supreme-court-nominee-has-backed-flexible-approach-to-court-precedent/2018/07/05/e8b63b7c-7f1c-11e8-b9f0-61b08cdd0ea1_story.html?utm_term=.42b17cdf07b9

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
10. If they were smart says it all , they're not
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 07:21 AM
Sep 2018

trump will continue claiming support but suggesting others will falsely unfairly attack him, and he's a victim too like he claims he is. He'll blame others for this failure of a nominee they picked. As long as he's still a nominee , it'll drag trump and the kgop down even more in the polls , and they will lose the Senate this Nov. . Vote these criminals out of office.

DFW

(54,443 posts)
14. If they dump Kavanaugh, it will be on their terms and with their spin
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 07:32 AM
Sep 2018

Kavanaugh will get his carefully edited script ("in order to put an end to this distracting partisan bickering, I will nobly withdraw my name, blah, blah..." ). McTurtle, Grassley, Hatch and Trump will decry the "witch hunt" by the "Democrat" Party, and quietly breathe a sigh of relief that it didn't end up with them having to defend Kavanaugh during a detailed televised hearing of the accusers the day before the midterms.

Trump will whine "witch hunt" as well, and then forget about it all ten minutes later, concentrating on what was REALLY on his mind, namely that tricky sand trap at the fifteenth hole.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. Well said
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 07:42 AM
Sep 2018

I can see it playing out that way for sure. Trump will throw in a few gibes against whomever he blames at his rallies.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,367 posts)
34. The OP seems to just be analyzing the opponent's playbook.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 09:06 AM
Sep 2018

If not Kavanaugh, who is waiting in the wings who's even worse?

I think Rick Santorum would be a fine GOP pick. Very disgusting individual.

QC

(26,371 posts)
27. She's not a member of the right class.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 08:27 AM
Sep 2018

That's the (mostly) unspoken agenda behind Kav. He's "one of us."

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
33. Because they can still get their RW justice
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 09:05 AM
Sep 2018

And not have to go through the "bad PR" (from their POV) of addressing these allegations.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
36. Trump wants Kavanaugh due to his position against indicting sitting POTUS.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 10:41 AM
Sep 2018

Not sure Barrett provides that same cover.

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