I don't care what any of you say -- AVENATTI IS A HERO

[CatWoman]

he comes thru again and again.

damn the white steed.

[monmouth4]

1. "Profiles In Courage" should be awarded to him and his client(s)..n/t

[Chickensoup]

30. Our leadership should learn from him.

[FarPoint]

62. I totally agree!

He is The Gladiator....Maximus

He makes me so proud, relieved...brings me to tears of relief.

[olegramps]

72. Remember it was Stormy that brewed up this tornado and Avenatti is the weather man.

[gratuitous]

2. The man knows how to work the media

You think anyone on the conservative side ever tut-tuts about how over the top their own are? Nope, they just laugh at calls for courtesy, civility or coherence. Avenatti has them grinding their teeth and has the added advantage of being right. He doesn't need my help, and I'm not offering it. But I sure like his ability to grab the media's attention, and wish more liberals could figure out how to do that.

[blaze]

10. Avenatti doesn't have to "worry" about constituents

It's one of the reasons I want him to stay right where he is!!

[SayitAintSo]

89. Good point...n/t

[watoos]

37. Yes Yes Yes you get it

Avenatti has the ability to change the narrative from Left wing conspiracy to Kavanaugh is a monster.

Watch cable news today and see which narrative is pushed, wins out.

[True Blue American]

68. Rudy ring a bell?

Flake is on the Senate floor! Wow!

[John Fante]

79. Liberal Democrats are held to a much higher standard than

Republicans, unfortunately. I liken the GOP to a heel heel in wrestling - they're expected to lie, cheat, and steal to obtain victory. Democrats are expected to fight clean. It's nauseating.

Even Avanetti produces hand-wringing from time to time... and not just from conservatives.

[mainstreetonce]

3. True He is a hero

As are all of these accusers .
Stormy Daniels should be included. Without her we would not have Avenatti.

[33taw]

39. I think without Stormy Daniels we would not be where we are. I don't know how she found

Avenatti, but kudos to her.

[JCMach1]

4. He is a warrior, we need beast mode right now

Damn..

[malaise]

5. He's the right man for the moment

[eleny]

6. He's using his talents for the good of the country

If this is how he receives notoriety - he deserves accolades.

[WeekiWater]

7. He did not come through. A woman did.

She is courageous. Avenatti is the tool she decided to use. He is serving a purpose. She is the courageous and heroic one.

He deserves credit for doing what he is doing. I can't imagine classifying it is heroic.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

13. Oh yeah he came through - the guy's got skills, & his client is courageous. Both can be correct.

No need to diminish his intent and abilities.

[WeekiWater]

15. I'm not diminishing his abilities.

I'm also not elevating him to hero level or making him out to be more courageous than his client.

[watoos]

42. I'm guessing you never got death threats

for trying to do the right thing? Avenatti has been getting death threats and his client will most certainly get them.
It isn't an either or, they are both heroes. I had a taste of it when I was on my local borough council when I bucked city hall. My friend got death threats, I spent many sleepless nights. What Avenatti and his client are doing is so much over and above what I did. The stakes are so much higher. God give Avenatti and his client the strength to see this through.

Remember, put the shoe on the other foot, Avenatti's client needs a lawyer like him to lead her along the right paths. Avenatti has the ability to change the narrative to one that Kavanaugh is a monster.

[WeekiWater]

78. I don't find that to rise to the level of heroic.

That does not dismiss or diminish his importance.

"It isn't an either or, they are both heroes."

I believe you are correct that this isn't an either or. Because I don't think he is a hero doesn't mean I debase him. That isn't how things work. I'm a bit shocked that if I don't call one a hero then you view it as an attack. It's not even close to an attack and I've spoken very positively of him.

I have received death threats. I will again as a part of my business. If you haven't, as you stated, you might want to leave that part our as a direct shot when making a point.

I don't understand the thought that if I don't think he is a hero then I think he must be shit. It takes some seriously wild assumptions to get to that place.

"Avenatti has the ability to change the narrative to one that Kavanaugh is a monster."

Ford is testifying. She has laid the groundwork. She is painting Kavanaugh as a monster as well. I find her to be heroic.

Edit to add: I am very sorry about your friend receiving death threats. It is a miserable position to be in. It can stay under your skin, 24 hours a day, for a considerable amount of time; depending on the situation.

[RVN VET71]

82. I agree with your rejection of the "hero" label

But there is something extremely wonderful about his appearance in all of this. He is a gifted, highly intelligent, competent man who is doing his best to force the truth out in the open. I'm not for a minute believing he's doing this for selfless reasons. He's clearly a self-promoter. But, oh my, the way he's doing it is not only helpful but, given the normal flaccidity of the Dems, absolutely needed.

The Corporate Fascist tank will continue rolling, regardless of Avenatti. But he may force it off the road just long enough to give the Left a chance to mount a successful counter-attack.

[ChubbyStar]

14. I like to think they are a team at this point

Your mileage may vary.

[WeekiWater]

17. I agree with that.

She made the decision to team up with Avenatti and it's probably a great move for her.

[CatWoman]

18. Avenatti played this PERFECTLY

He saw how the GOP was shutting out Ramirez and he came out like gangbusters.

Had all his bases covered.

He and his client WILL NOT be ignored.

[WeekiWater]

22. I agree. Depending on her intentions, which now seem clear, it was a great move for her. N/T

[brush]

32. You just don't want to give him credit. He engineered the signed affidavit, the timing, the...

opening of his twitter feed, the sending of it to the repugs who didn't respond for three days which necessitated Avenatti going public with it on twitter and MSNBC, so yeah, Avenatti and his client are both heroic in this dramatic move to stop the repug ramming through of Kavanaugh unto the Supreme Court.

Just admit it, they teamed up and did a heroic thing.

[watoos]

43. Well said

[ChubbyStar]

34. Why would you question her intentions?

You seem to be back peddling, and it wasn't a great move for her, it was a GIANT move for justice. Not crazy about your vibe.

[LanternWaste]

21. Her coming through does not deny his as well.

Her courage does not deny his actions.



It's not a zero sum game, despite your inability to imagine what other people may perceive.

[WeekiWater]

23. If you wouldn't mind.

Please outline where I made it out to be a "zero sum game". "Zero sum game" has a meaning. Thank you.

[pnwmom]

25. They are both heroes. She may not have come forward if she hadn't felt he would protect her.

This must be terrifying for her, but she saw him champion Stormy Daniels, and she trusted him.

[WeekiWater]

28. "This must be terrifying for her, but she saw him champion Stormy Daniels, and she trusted him."

Thank you for wording it like that. There is a bit of a heroic aspect to it when stated as such.

[pnwmom]

36. I still think about when Stormy Daniels came forward. Remember the penalty she was facing?

The non-disclosure agreement called for her to be fined a million dollars for each separate time she broke the agreement by speaking out. She was facing millions in dollars of fines. But Avenatti convinced her, correctly, that the NDA was worthless and she could trust him.

That must have been so scary for Stormy, but she did it, and she's a hero. But he also is, because he helped her have the confidence to take Trump on.

[uponit7771]

70. Disagree, His tactics ... ARE ... heroic seeing it's the tactics dems should be using in the day the

... media reported 60% about HRC's emails vs her policies!!

[KPN]

74. They both came through! They are both (all) hgeroes. We need them all.

[Hoyt]

8. I've expressed doubts in past few days, but gotta admit that he did come through today BIG TIME.

Kudos, but ain't voting for him for Prez, at least at this point.

[sprinkleeninow]

77. I've had no problem with him and his personality or way of expression from the very instant he

came on the scene.

My God, he delivers with words and comebacks.

We're in a monumental fight for, literally, our lives.

💙🇺🇸🌊

[Jersey Devil]

9. He's one hell of a gunslinger

I sure would want him in my corner if I needed him.

[GemDigger]

16. Gunslinger fits him well.

I like it.

[The_jackalope]

40. A perfect description.

A Nomex suit and a .44...

[librechik]

11. agree . Has a good head, and is not afraid to use it

to butt the asses of the entitled jerks who deserve it!

[MoonRiver]

12. I completely agree!

Avenatti

[Vinca]

19. Agreed! This should be dubbed an "Avenatti Bomb."

[uponit7771]

20. K&R, Basta Man is the guy HRC needed in 2016!!!

[Kingofalldems]

24. Like I've been saying GOP operatives fear him.

[H2O Man]

26. Recommended.

[womanofthehills]

27. I love Avenatti - he always comes thru just when you need him

He has great timing too!

[redstatebluegirl]

29. He is one guy who uses swagger the same way Trump does, except he has the swag to back it up.

[libdem4life]

31. Now we know why Congress' approval rating is 17%.

[grantcart]

33. He doesn't overstate it

[NurseJackie]

35. "I don't bluff. I deliver." (Or something like that.)

He wasn't kidding when he said that!!

[ADX]

38. Despite all the nay-sayers who labeled him a self-serving attention whore...

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...I've always thought Avenatti to be a straight gangster when it comes to representing his client's interests. Dude gives zero fucks and in today's political climate, that's exactly the kind of approach necessary to counter Chump's bullshit.

That being said though, I do wish he'd dotted the i's and crossed the t's and gotten Swetnick's declaration notarized, thus making it a sworn affidavit.

ETA: After doing a bit more research, I discovered that a declaration signed under penalty of perjury is not required to be notarized.

[pnwmom]

58. It says she signed it under penalty of perjury. Why do you think it wasn't notarized? n/t

[ADX]

61. I don't know...

...Maybe he/they didn't think it was necessary, maybe there were time constraints, maybe it was an oversight, who knows? I'm just saying that I wish it would have been done because the Repugs are going to milk the fact that it wasn't notarized for all they can.

[pnwmom]

63. No, I mean, what is your evidence for the claim that it wasn't notarized?

The notary stamp could have been on a subsequent page that wasn't tweeted out.

[ADX]

64. I've seen the entire document and it wasn't notarized...

...HOWEVER, after doing a bit more research, I discovered that a declaration signed under penalty of perjury in the State of California is not required to be notarized.

That being said, we're all good...

[pnwmom]

66. Makes sense. The purpose of a notary is to prove that someone had checked the ID of the signer,

and that the signer knew what he or she was doing.

Avenatti is attesting to that himself.

[lunatica]

41. And he's the eminent champion of women. All women.

Why people want to find fault in him, especially here on DU is a real mystery to me.

[ChubbyStar]

45. He likes women, in the real way

We could be his sister, mother, aunt, friend, neighbor...he likes us. He doesn't have to prove he could conquer us or fuck us, he just likes us. Rock on dude.

[oberliner]

51. Lisa might disagree

[ChubbyStar]

53. Hey have Lisa give me a call

Thanks!

[oberliner]

57. You can just read the court records from the divorce proceeding

[ChubbyStar]

83. Golly Gee Whiz

I was married, and I got divorced, and the shit that was said in my divorce proceedings sounded NOTHING like my actual marriage. So thanks but I'll pass on your advice.

[LanternWaste]

86. You should also repeat your post from April...

"If he was doing this to a Democrat, we'd all hate him"

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210493214#post5

'cause, y'know...

[Kingofalldems]

84. Having a bad day?

[CatWoman]

85. who in the world is Lisa?

was she gang banged too?

[ProudLib72]

92. She's his ex

[bullwinkle428]

90. So all divorced women hate their exes? I'll give you my ex's number if you

want proof to the contrary.

[calimary]

44. Yep. Even Charlie Pierce had to concede that, yesterday, even while voicing skepticism.

"Michael Avenatti has yet to be wrong." If I may hijack the message on those placards that have been turning up at trump rallies - "Promises Made, Promises Kept."

From yesterday's Esquire column.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a23455699/michael-avenatti-brett-kavanaugh-accuser/

[nolabear]

46. Boy, he's playing them like a cheap fiddle. And he can back it up.

There’s far too much Tom Arnold style teasing without producing. He’s got the showmanship, the gutter lawyer skills and also the goods and the intelligence to use them. I think we can get uncomfortable when things aren’t dressed up in decorum and pretense of civilization and propriety. But right now he’s the gun we’re bringing to the fight and he’s a beaut!

[GoCubsGo]

47. Absolutely!

That doesn't mean I believe he should be President, as many are pushing. But, he's definitely a hero in my book.

[watoos]

48. If he runs for president

and gets the nomination I will enthusiastically endorse him and vote for him. Our nation is at a crossroad, our democracy is being threatened, we need a strong president to undo all of what Trump has done. Avenatti fits that bill for me. He has been the most vocal Democrat to oppose Donald Trump that I have seen.

[FakeNoose]

81. I'm hoping our next Pres is the reincarnation of FDR

But that's not likely to happen, so in the meantime I'll gladly vote for Avenatti!

[efhmc]

49. I got up this morning and checked the internet with my fingers crossed that my

hero, Avenatti. had come through and he did.

[KG]

50. !

[Laura PourMeADrink]

52. Trump just called him a lowlife

[HipChick]

56. Who cares? Michael just shit all over him...

What UN? totally overshadowed....

[Meadowoak]

60. Trump should never call anyone a low life, there is no one lower than that orange

Turd!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

69. Trump can only aspire to be as good as a low life!

[sprinkleeninow]

80. Classless slob calling another "a low life"? 😠

[bullwinkle428]

91. I'd wear that as a badge of honor, coming from Captain Mushroomcock.

[Tursiops]

54. He's a pitbull

and Trumps biggest nightmare

[saidsimplesimon]

55. Bonnie Tyler, "Holding out for a hero"

"He's gotta be strong, and he's gotta be fast and he's gonna be fresh from the fight."

I've spent most of my life looking outward for the hero. In retrospect, "wasted days and wasted nights"

[KT2000]

59. I agree!

He is filling a void. I wish we had more like him.

[Autumn]

65. Yes he is! Those who say otherwise are silly or otherwise.

[VOX]

67. I'd like to have some more Avenattis, please.

Okay, he wears snazzy suits, has an ego, a flair for showmanship, and no doubt enjoys the spotlight. He’s clearly no tweed-and-elbow-patches, lovable, progressive uncle who swaps stories at the Saturday morning farmers market.

Avenatti’s a different animal, street-smart, and one who shows no fear; rather, he *brings* fear to the opposition, armed with thorough documentation and an unflinchingly bold attitude. He doesn’t shy from conflict— he doesn’t have to worry about pleasing any constituency back home.

Significantly, he’s the one soul on the left who’s actually landed serious head-and-body blows to 45 (metaphorically speaking, of course). 45 rarely mentions him— that’s a measure of how effective Avenatti has been.

It’s a new time, a much darker, meaner time. America is experiencing its first big taste of fascism, and its first encounter with a commander-in-chief who’s sanity is in question, and who’s surrounded himself with some of the craziest, most bizarre, marginal ideologues who have no business being in government. The Republican Party is okay with this— they want MORE of this. Fascism suits them, they’d be overjoyed if the Constitution were re-written to exclude everyone who’s not wealthy and white.

While Robert Mueller and his team methodically plod along, hopefully finding enough evidence to sink 45 & Co. In the meantime, as the fate of democracy hangs in the balance, send Avenatti in. Let him drive 45 absolutely nuts. Anything to take the attack to the criminals-in-charge.

Would that there were a dozen Michael Avenattis out there, fighting to salvage what remains of sanity and democracy.

[karin_sj]

71. He's definitely my hero

Democrats are trying hard and doing the best they can, but they don't have the killer instinct and total lack of scruples and empathy that the republicans have. We need all the help we can get to fight them and Avenatti is a powerful weapon (AND he does have scruples!) Keep up the good fight Michael!

[lillypaddle]

73. He's good

I'm glad he's on our side. I just don't want him for Prez.

[Jarqui]

75. The GOP had the bit in their teeth and were galloping towards

putting Kavanaugh on the Supreme court no matter what the other two accusers said.

Some BIG had to be delivered to stop them.

Although the first two accusers and all the other lying Kavanaugh did should have been enough in a normal world, they have been pressing on scheduling votes, etc.

Hopefully, Avenatti helping to bring this third victim's horrific story forward will stop them and prevent Trump from using Gamble v USA to get his criminals off state crimes with his pardons.

[KPN]

76. He is a HERO indeed ... as are the women who have come forward to hrelp save our

already great nation.

[D23MIURG23]

87. Agreed. We need him right now.

People can say what they want about "self promotion" or whatever. We need people who will fight dump.

[CousinIT]

88. He's a FIGHTER and not ashamed to take the fight to the perps. AND he's a Dem AND...

....if he says he's got the goods -- HE'S. GOT. THE. GOODS. He comes through.

[Puzzledtraveller]

93. He is not helping

believe what you want.

[Blue Owl]

94. I wish he'd just leave Trump and Kavanaugh alone

So they can advance their nazi, white supremacist, rape-culture agenda.

Right?