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JHB

(37,158 posts)
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 12:39 PM Sep 2018

Reminder: Kavakaugh lied under oath

It sort of dropped off the radar in the MSM because the Republicans were completely OK with it, but it's quite relevant as he and they spin a gold-plated dish over his head and try to call it a halo.


By Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont)
September 13
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/brett-kavanaugh-misled-the-senate-under-oath-i-cannot-support-his-nomination/2018/09/13/ea75c740-b77d-11e8-b79f-f6e31e555258_story.html

Take his relationship with the ringleader of the “Memogate” scandal. Between 2001 and 2003, two Republican staffers regularly gained unauthorized access to the private computer files of six Democratic senators, including mine, taking 4,670 files on controversial judicial nominees.

Kavanaugh was asked more than 100 times about this scandal in 2004 and 2006. He testified repeatedly that he knew nothing about the source of the information; that he received nothing that even appeared to be prepared by Democratic staff; and that he never suspected anything unusual, or “untoward.”

But emails I released last week show that then-Republican Senate Judiciary Committee counsel Manuel Miranda regularly shared obviously ill-gotten, inside information with Kavanaugh, which Miranda often asked be kept secret. That includes eight pages from a Democratic memo, taken verbatim from me, on a controversial nominee that Kavanaugh was asked to not forward. Emails also show that Miranda told Kavanaugh about a sensitive, private letter that I received on a nominee’s position on abortion — a letter Miranda described as “confidential,” requesting that “no action be taken.” They also show Miranda asked to meet privately at his home to give Kavanaugh “paper” on Democratic senators’ thinking.


Other emails describe meetings we were holding, materials staff were sharing internally, leads we were pursuing, what staffers were advising their senators with the notation “highly confidential,” a private letter I had sent to another senator, and even one from an associate of Miranda with the subject line “spying” with information from a Democratic “mole.” Last week, when confronted with these emails, Kavanaugh testified that this was normal information shared with “friends across the aisle.” As I told Kavanaugh then, I was born at night, but not last night.
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Reminder: Kavakaugh lied under oath (Original Post) JHB Sep 2018 OP
Kavanaugh's nomination seems rather unsustainable at this point. calimary Sep 2018 #1
It seem that wy to us, but maybe not them. lark Sep 2018 #2
KNR Lucinda Sep 2018 #3
To me, that was always the issue. jeffreyi Sep 2018 #4
yeah... as I recall, the evidence that he was lying was pretty incontrovertible renate Sep 2018 #5
Yes! This is a huge issue. He is willing to lie under oath so what else R B Garr Sep 2018 #6
and a plus one... DownFromTheMountain Sep 2018 #7

calimary

(81,220 posts)
1. Kavanaugh's nomination seems rather unsustainable at this point.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 12:50 PM
Sep 2018

But of course, the republi-CONS may not want to go there. They may wind up being dragged away from their boy, kicking and screaming. But seriously, at THIS point, I don't know how his nomination goes through.

Avenatti is on the phone with Andrea "oh but her emails" Mitchell. She asked how he came to represent this third accuser. He said she contacted him. He also said he's had "over 3,000 requests for representation" from other individuals with similar experiences and complaints.

Frankly, if I were one of those women, I'D want Michael Avenatti to represent ME, too. He's freakin' FEARLESS. Where's he been, all our lives? SO glad he finally turned up!

lark

(23,094 posts)
2. It seem that wy to us, but maybe not them.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:05 PM
Sep 2018

They are all saying they have the votes and even if he did attempt rape well, that's what young rich white males do, it wasn't actual rape (no thanks to him) and we're OK with that I don't think that will change, repugs protect rapist if they are white and rich, they only care when it's a minority or poor person who is a Democrat.

Kavanaugh is total scum, no shame at all, all for me & my boys and none for you kind of person. He will not withdraw because he's determined to change America to give everything to male oligarchs, take everything away from working class & poor - including healthcare, and to cover up drumpf and his party's joint treason. if drumpf thinks russia will steal the mid-terms for him, he doesn't care how people actually vote - it won't matter when Russia wipes out millions of D vote - and he will have the vote and Kav will win. I just hope Mancin, Donnelly, Heitkamp and McCaskill vote against him!

Best case is he isn't confirmed, but again if /since they condone rape, he will probably get in. If he is confirmed next best case is they lose so bigly that even Russian hacking doesnt turn the tide his way and we get House (and maybe even Senate?) and shine a light on drumpf and pals corruption, fraud, criminality and stop Russias' hacking our votes. Then when the light scatters the roaches and more Dems are elected, I also look forward to impeaching Kav, when we have sufficient seats in the Senate.

renate

(13,776 posts)
5. yeah... as I recall, the evidence that he was lying was pretty incontrovertible
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:15 PM
Sep 2018

Not that the current accusations are as simple as "he said / she said," since it's "he said, because he has everything to gain from lying / she said and she said and she said, even though they'd have everything to lose from lying" but the evidence about the memos is just... THERE.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
6. Yes! This is a huge issue. He is willing to lie under oath so what else
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:20 PM
Sep 2018

would he be casually lying about. This should also be revisited constantly.

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