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In your view, how are the Democrats doing on this Kavanaugh thing? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Sep 2018 OP
Michael Avenatti is certainly giving them some lessons..n/t monmouth4 Sep 2018 #1
That he is. nt Autumn Sep 2018 #2
He wasn't involved in everything from the outset Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2018 #4
Indeed, but I guess Kamala Harris and Klobuchar don't count because they are women. BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #7
Totally agree Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2018 #17
AMEN !!! I OP'd that Basta Man's tactics ... SHOULD ... be adopted by dems right how damn now !!! uponit7771 Sep 2018 #5
A great lesson on how to open a ketchup lid after someone else loosens it.. LanternWaste Sep 2018 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2018 #14
"Them"? ismnotwasm Sep 2018 #23
Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2018 #3
Absolutely the best they can under the circumstances wryter2000 Sep 2018 #6
way better to let this drag on than to demand kavanaugh's name be withdrawn...way way better beachbum bob Sep 2018 #8
Yes.. agreed. honest.abe Sep 2018 #9
pretty good for being bound and gagged and on a chokechain. librechik Sep 2018 #10
I'm afraid if Avenatti hadn't dropped this bomb today, the vote would have happened Vinca Sep 2018 #11
I think they're doing the best they can... Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #13
Manchin and Heidtkamp have the power to vote against a serial gang-rapist. lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #15
Who's to say they won't? Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2018 #18
How 'bout if they say they will? lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #20
They *could* of course Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2018 #21
All they have to say is they want an investigation before it goes any further. ooky Sep 2018 #22
+1 Any other position is indefensible. lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #31
They haven't had much to do....they've sat back and let the lies unfold spanone Sep 2018 #16
They've done great Johnny2X2X Sep 2018 #19
Solid A minus gratuitous Sep 2018 #24
They are fighting it with all they have Bettie Sep 2018 #25
Doing the best they can, & now getting an assist from Showman Lawman Avenatti... Hekate Sep 2018 #26
Previously, I saw no way to stop Kav's confirmation, but it's certainly questionable now. Hoyt Sep 2018 #27
Amazing! Anon-C Sep 2018 #28
We may not have the majority C_U_L8R Sep 2018 #29
I was impressed with them MuseRider Sep 2018 #30
I'm not sure Awsi Dooger Sep 2018 #32

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
7. Indeed, but I guess Kamala Harris and Klobuchar don't count because they are women.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:46 PM
Sep 2018

Hell, Sheldon Whitehouse worked that slime over repeatedly but none of that counts with some folks, apparently.

I enjoy Avenatti but the idea he’s “the only one doing anything” is fantasyland shit.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
17. Totally agree
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:51 PM
Sep 2018

He's good at what he does and I appreciate what he's done, but I feel like he's a bit full of himself, especially when he starts attacking the Democratic Party and suggesting a possible Presidential run in 2020.

Response to monmouth4 (Reply #1)

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
3. Recommended.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:24 PM
Sep 2018

As an old boxer-trainer, the word that comes to mind is "smoking." That is when a fighter is maintaining a very high level in tough competition.

wryter2000

(46,045 posts)
6. Absolutely the best they can under the circumstances
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:42 PM
Sep 2018

And they may yet prevail. We’ll still end up with a RWNJ on the Court, but at least not a rapist.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
10. pretty good for being bound and gagged and on a chokechain.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:49 PM
Sep 2018

they manage to get a whimper out occasionally before the cruel jerk on the collar.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
11. I'm afraid if Avenatti hadn't dropped this bomb today, the vote would have happened
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:49 PM
Sep 2018

and Kavenaugh would have been confirmed. Maybe Democrats in the Senate are doing work behind the scenes we don't know about, but until Avenatti showed up it seemed the Democrats were communicating in ASL.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
13. I think they're doing the best they can...
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:50 PM
Sep 2018

given the Repub steamrolling them at every turn.

Repubs have proven they care nothing for rules and norms of how the Senate should operate.

The Dems are fighting hard, but when the majority won't allow any push back from the minority, it's hard to fight them.

I suspect the Repubs will get their SC judge. We need to vote in Nov to make sure this is the last one they get for a long, long time.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
18. Who's to say they won't?
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:54 PM
Sep 2018

They might have voted for him until the sexual assault allegations started coming out. If it gets to a vote, I would hope/expect at least every single Democrat to vote against him at this point. And even the red state Democrats would be plenty justified in their vote against him.

ooky

(8,923 posts)
22. All they have to say is they want an investigation before it goes any further.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 02:02 PM
Sep 2018

Its a completely rational position.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
19. They've done great
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:54 PM
Sep 2018

It's a win for the country if they're successful in getting Kavanaugh withdrawn. It's a win fore them politically either way.

If Reps seat Kavanaugh, November will be even more of a route because you know the accusations will not stop, there are more women who will come forward from now through the election.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
24. Solid A minus
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 02:13 PM
Sep 2018

More media time could bring the grade up, but that's out of Democratic hands. For what they've had to work with and the disadvantages built in to the system, they're doing great.

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
25. They are fighting it with all they have
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 02:15 PM
Sep 2018

that is what I personally wanted to see.

Win or lose, they weren't pushovers which is, frankly, what I feared.

But, I also don't want to see a single Dem vote for this predatory piece of shit.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
26. Doing the best they can, & now getting an assist from Showman Lawman Avenatti...
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 02:15 PM
Sep 2018

...a man so sharp he could cut himself.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
30. I was impressed with them
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 02:41 PM
Sep 2018

and how they handled their time during the first round of questioning. I think those on that committee were not the Dems who always want to keep their powder dry that caused us so much worry before, there is fight there and it was wonderful. It would have been fun to watch if it had not been such a serious matter that we are likely (?) to lose because of the numbers. Avenatti is another voice. A very loud voice and very strong opinion and I am thrilled that he is here. We can use all the help we can get being in the minority. Every person swayed can call and demand their person vote appropriately.

Again, I am always surprised at those who refuse to take help when we get it just because they are not a Democrat or whatever they are not. I hope he keeps up and I don't think there is any chance he does not.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
32. I'm not sure
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 04:26 PM
Sep 2018

I can't predict how Republicans will react to this, and that is basically what we are dealing with.

My Republican aunt called me an hour ago on another matter, but she brought up the latest accuser in an angry voice and said she is absolutely disgusted at the treatment Kavanaugh is receiving. I guess that is the danger...whether it motivates their base. Normally my aunt doesn't say much of anything political but she is a Trump supporter and watches the local Fox affiliate all day. I can only guess that station must be treating this as outrageous.

We had to do something. The timing is the wild card. It would have been preferable for hints dropped into the mainstream weeks ago during the hearings so it didn't seem last second and desperate.

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