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NEW: Dr. Ford's lawyers have just released her polygraph report. (Original Post) kpete Sep 2018 OP
K&R... spanone Sep 2018 #1
No deception eleny Sep 2018 #2
WH releases Polygraphs are fake news... HipChick Sep 2018 #3
I mean polygraphs are fake news qazplm135 Sep 2018 #12
Judge Kavanaugh found polygraphs to be accurate and important in a ruling. yardwork Sep 2018 #16
I'm sure he did qazplm135 Sep 2018 #17
He used his opinion as an excuse to deny a freedom of information act request, or something. yardwork Sep 2018 #19
Judge Kavanaugh please step up to the machine grantcart Sep 2018 #4
No deception. republicans will hate this Achilleaze Sep 2018 #5
Not a trial Johnny2X2X Sep 2018 #6
You can bet your bippy.... SergeStorms Sep 2018 #18
Kavanaugh has defended and bolstered the use of polygraphs. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #7
Now it's Kavanaugh's turn. TwistOneUp Sep 2018 #8
Kavanaugh's love for polygraphs. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #9
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2018 #10
Polygraph guy resume honest.abe Sep 2018 #11
That's an odd polygraph session Lee-Lee Sep 2018 #13
It is a strangely short and vague question set but it kinda makes sense in context Amishman Sep 2018 #14
Maybe. But it makes it easy to attack and call into question Lee-Lee Sep 2018 #15

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
12. I mean polygraphs are fake news
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 03:15 PM
Sep 2018

they are unreliable junk science.

Having said that, the value is in the fact most people don't know that, and her passing one will have an impact on at least some people.

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
19. He used his opinion as an excuse to deny a freedom of information act request, or something.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 06:07 PM
Sep 2018

In a child rape case. He definitely is a hack, and a highly cynical and hypocritical one at that. Also, ill-tempered. A thoroughly unpleasant individual.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
6. Not a trial
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 02:48 PM
Sep 2018

In most places polygraphs are not admissible, but as Reps have said, this isn't a trial, this is an interview. So these results should be read in the Senate.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
18. You can bet your bippy....
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 05:39 PM
Sep 2018

her results would be broadcast from every FOX and Sinclair channel, and admitted into the official record of the hearing, if they had showed deception. Now that she's passed with flying colors? Not a peep, you can bet on it.

Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
7. Kavanaugh has defended and bolstered the use of polygraphs.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 02:54 PM
Sep 2018

A couple days ago there was a thread here on DU about Kavanaugh's judicial opinions about polygraphs. I hope someone can find it faster than me and post it.

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
8. Now it's Kavanaugh's turn.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 02:56 PM
Sep 2018

In the old tradition of "Put Up Or Shut Up", she Put Up.

Now it's Kavanaugh's turn. Put Up or Shut Up, yer "honor".

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
13. That's an odd polygraph session
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 03:26 PM
Sep 2018

But I guess when the person taking it is paying for it you do what they are comfortable with.

I’ve taken numerous polygraph exams for employment and background check purposes and never have I seen a two question exam where the person being interviewed wrote a statement a was then just asked broad questions about it.

Polygraph exams I’ve taken and been party to always ask specific questions about the event or issue at hand, because to find deception they want to focus on individual issues and details where the deception is.

If a suspect in a crime offered to take a polygraph exam they wouldn’t get to write a statement and then just get asked if it was true. They would get asked specific questions about who, what, where, when, why, how about the account they gave.

When I took a polygraph for my job as a deputy before I was hired they didn’t just look at the forms I filed out for my background check. They went over question by question for everything I had said and asked me the same questions. “Have you used illegal narcotics” “Have you ever committed financial fraud” “Have you ever aided in the commission of a felony” “Are you a member of any extremist groups or have you been”. Etc. They didn’t just ask me if everything in the document was true and then send me on my way.

I’m not saying this is or is not a legitimate polygraph exam, but I am saying the manner it was done in is very inconsistent with any other polygraph procedure ive ever been exposed to and we can expect the manner in which this was given to be attacked as having been given in the most easy manner to pass.

If I was investigating a crime and suspects lawyer walked in with this we would have laughed. I really wish they had done a true comprehensive exam, asking her “Did this happen” “Who did this to you”, etc and recording the results of those specific questions and answers. Then there wouldn’t be any way to question the results. By doing it this way they left a lot of room to question the procedures.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
14. It is a strangely short and vague question set but it kinda makes sense in context
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 03:44 PM
Sep 2018

I would expect numerous questions and more specific, polygraphs are best at establishing boundaries of a subjects written statement. 'apart from [detail in statement] did any [thing related to incident but not specifically mentioned] occur? The idea is to force a new lie on the spot as these are easiest to detect.

All that being said, the above is what would be expected when interviewing a suspect. This is a polygraph of the victim. It would make sense to keep it simple and not treat them like a criminal.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
15. Maybe. But it makes it easy to attack and call into question
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 03:56 PM
Sep 2018

The process for determining if there is deception is the same no matter if someone is a victim, a suspect, or an applicant for a job that requires a polygraph.

The examiners use specific questions to gauge if there is deception.

Use of vague and open questions is far less reliable and that’s why when they do a polygraph on someone applying to be a cop or for a high level security clearance they don’t just say “is everything in York application correct” and end the exam there.

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