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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 07:08 PM Sep 2018

Read this: Wow! First 2 accusations really didn't resonate with Susan Collins

She was apparently leaning toward yes! It took what happened today with the 3rd accuser to give her even a little pause?? Evil! Evil!

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/09/26/politics/susan-collins-brett-kavanaugh/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

But it was made clear to senators inside the meeting that the most recent allegation had resonated with the Maine moderate in a way that others up to that point had not.
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Read this: Wow! First 2 accusations really didn't resonate with Susan Collins (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Sep 2018 OP
She's saying they need to hear from judge. bettyellen Sep 2018 #1
Yes but see the blockquote NewsCenter28 Sep 2018 #4
She's been wait and see all along. Now she wants to see more. That is good. bettyellen Sep 2018 #15
What a dimwit. llmart Sep 2018 #2
She really wants to vote yes and has avebury Sep 2018 #3
THIS BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #5
This has been mentioned by several reporters. Collins is desperate to vote Yes. But why?? Blaukraut Sep 2018 #11
She'll vote yes. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2018 #13
I think the GOP leaders have lined up Collins and Murkowski... 11cents Sep 2018 #6
I don't think Murkowski has a choice. avebury Sep 2018 #9
Murkowski is in the Senate because of the Alaskan Natives. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2018 #14
Still need to have 100% of Democrats vote against Kavanaugh. LiberalFighter Sep 2018 #12
What about her years of promises to protect abortion? Hortensis Sep 2018 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2018 #8
Because only the third used the word "rape"? She could excuse the first two sinkingfeeling Sep 2018 #10
Please get that I find her spine jelly. She folds easily. But, a little steel might be invoked salin Sep 2018 #16
Stephen King might have convinced her to take a closer look. displacedtexan Sep 2018 #17
The third woman is from her culture/class/government. libdem4life Sep 2018 #18

avebury

(10,952 posts)
3. She really wants to vote yes and has
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 07:10 PM
Sep 2018

been trying to find a path to a yes vote. It might finally be getting past the point where she can be in denial.

BumRushDaShow

(128,999 posts)
5. THIS
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 07:14 PM
Sep 2018

IMHO, this confirmation wasn't really an issue on her plate to have to use her performance art. I expect she wanted a different event for her performance.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
11. This has been mentioned by several reporters. Collins is desperate to vote Yes. But why??
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 07:27 PM
Sep 2018

What does she have to gain by voting yes and going against the majority of her constituents' wishes? I wonder if she was promised something in return for a yes vote.

11cents

(1,777 posts)
6. I think the GOP leaders have lined up Collins and Murkowski...
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 07:15 PM
Sep 2018

...to take the hit and announce they won't vote for Kavanaugh. After the third accusation, they knew he had to be deep-sixed. Now Collins and Murkowski are being hauled in as the executioners.

In other words, -- let the two broads take the abuse from "the base." Cleaning up messes is what women are for.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
9. I don't think Murkowski has a choice.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 07:20 PM
Sep 2018

Alaska is pretty dead set on a no vote. They will support her on a no vote. A yes vote and this will be her last term in office.

14. Murkowski is in the Senate because of the Alaskan Natives.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 07:32 PM
Sep 2018

They travelled to D.C. to remind her of that.

Kavanaugh has come out against the Hawaiian natives, and by extension would rule the same way on the Alaskans once he's on the SCOTUS.

If she votes yes she may as well find a permanent home in Washington. They're not going to want her back in Alaska.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. What about her years of promises to protect abortion?
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 07:16 PM
Sep 2018

ME is 70% pro-abortion.

Trump has promised to appoint justices who'll make it illegal and repeated this happily, like announcing a promise kept, while speaking of Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing.

“...there has to be some form of punishment”... I have not determined what the punishment should be.” Trump


Evil! Evil!

Response to NewsCenter28 (Original post)

salin

(48,955 posts)
16. Please get that I find her spine jelly. She folds easily. But, a little steel might be invoked
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 08:10 PM
Sep 2018

with this much specificity - and most importantly contemporaneous corroborations.

She can be weasely, but I think per fear of the demon-ization now common from the far right base - now extremely amplified by Trump's tweets and vocal attacks, are what keeps her - despite trying to give voice to moderation to her constituents - firmly in the GOP vote count.

My guess is that she may have been sympathetic - but weak - prior to the third accusation. More cover given in the third one - and perhaps a hope (for her) that someone else may also defect. Doesn't say anything good about her, per integrity. But might explain the different reaction.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
17. Stephen King might have convinced her to take a closer look.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 08:58 PM
Sep 2018

The man has made $40million+ every year for well over 2 decades, and that's not even counting his early book money. If he decides she needs to go, he can fund her opponent(s).

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
18. The third woman is from her culture/class/government.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 09:02 PM
Sep 2018

The first is a 15 year old nobody, Ramirez wasn't real clear, but this...an accomplished, professional,. security-checked government-employed woman...should do it. I hate it that it took this long, but we'll take what we can get. Likely more to come.

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