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(872 posts)"But My Masters Are Telling Me How I Have To Vote."
shanny
(6,709 posts)Collins not so much.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...but it wont matter, because Collins will vote to confirm and Pence will break the tie.
shanny
(6,709 posts)Assuming all the Ds hold.
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)All 3 are in tight races.
While it will make me sad, it really doesn't matter because Pence gets the tie vote so the rapist will be on the court.
If this helps the 3 Dems win their seats (I personally think it loses them more Democratic votes than wins them support from "fence sitters, but that's just me)...
shanny
(6,709 posts)although it is the conventional wisdom that it helps protect Ds in red states. I don't think it earns many R votes and I'm sure it depresses D enthusiasm. My two cents.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)Acting like Rs just promotes them and alienates Ds.
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)and hurt women in this country are.
shanny
(6,709 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)quakerboy
(13,920 posts)They may not even want Collins. Even if both Collins and Murkowski sit it out, its 49-49. Pence makes it 50 for the win.
That's my prediction on how this goes. Both of them stay home or abstain, Thus preserving their ability to say they didn't vote for him in left leaning crowds, but also their ability to claim they didnt vote against trump for the republican crowds. Pence steps in to provide the tie breaker. Mueller stays true to the right and releases none of any incriminating info he has. They cheat in the midterms. Any complaints about the midterms, legislation, presidential wrongdoing, etc, are welcome to make their case to Slimy K in his new SCOTUS robes
The only item I see as being in question at this point is whether we will do the work to provide enough turnout to overcome whatever they have planned for this election.
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wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,808 posts)brush
(53,785 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)I kind of feel for her.
rurallib
(62,422 posts)instead they play footsie with the fringe crazies.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)P.S. DiFi channeling Lyndon.
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Kaleva
(36,307 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,291 posts)betsuni
(25,537 posts)I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of THAT look.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)gabeana
(3,166 posts)I have been critical with her, however, this is a great photo I'd use it in an campaign ad
She does not need it though, she will win easily,
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)What if, no matter how this turns out, that Trump tells GOP voters (who don't have a choice of their own in this race) to vote for de Leon to punish Feinstein? The logic would be that either of them would always vote against the Trump agenda anyway, and if Feinstein is replaced, California would lose a bit of seniority. And, there's the punishment issue. GOP'ers in CA have only two choices, either vote for who they think is the most moderate, or skip that line on the ballot. What if their Dear Leader gives them an order to wreak revenge?
I can definitely see that becoming the subject of a massive Trumpian tirade should it come to pass that Kavanaugh would not get confirmed by the Senate vote.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)weight this last year. Good for her. I saw her behind her desk a few times, but not noticeable then.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)She sure as hell looks fit to eat a senior Senator from Alaska for breakfast right now...
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,943 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It doesn't look like Dianne is buying.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Sounded like they came to some kind of agreement?
JHan
(10,173 posts)DiFI: Why are you being such a coward Lisa? Don't be like Sue..
Murkowski: You know why.. I'm sorry Dianne but I'm under a lot of pressure.
DiFI: But why? You know he's fucking awful?
Murkowski: You don't understand, ToadBoy has an agenda , and we're under strict instructions to fuck this country up, including every last woman...
DiFI: Whose fucked up agenda is this ? ToadBoy? .. Look, you don't have to do this Lisa, you don't have to fuck the country over. You know the Federalists are whackjobs.
Murkowski : But you don't understand..
DiFI: Did you hear me? You don't have to fuck the country over.
Murkowski: Sorry , what did you say?
iluvtennis
(19,862 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Leith
(7,809 posts)They are in different parties and Finestein doesn't have any political control over Murkowski. They're having an intense discussion, sure. But the lack of any control and the hug at the end of it hints that their talk is more collaborative about a serious topic where they mostly agree.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)there may even be some mutual respect. Everyone understands that voting to confirm the rapist is a point of no return.
I don't get all this fantasizing that Feinstein is somehow being an aggressive jerk. That's not her style -- and it's not how you win votes.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)This is the single best photo about the plight of American women in politics ever.
This should be on the front of Time Magazine!
George II
(67,782 posts)StTimofEdenRoc
(445 posts)still_one
(92,217 posts)apology
StTimofEdenRoc
(445 posts)specifically quotation marks.
Then you will understand that I was not calling her weak, but attributing the words in quotations to her as a thought or verbal communication.
still_one
(92,217 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)I knew what you were saying, but punctuation really is important, even in the day of tweets and texts.
Commas save lives, without one, "Let's eat, Grandma" becomes "Let's eat Grandma"!
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)StTimofEdenRoc
(445 posts)iI was an attempt to see MS Alaska painfully explaining how it was going to hurt her to vote to confirm, MS California looks to be discussed with her and thinking "You are worthless and weak."
but.................I failed
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Did you mean disgusted? MS Alaska? MS California?