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(85,996 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 10:49 PM Sep 2018

So yelling and beating up on the victim rallied republicans?

Last edited Fri Sep 28, 2018, 08:31 AM - Edit history (2)


...that's the narrative coming from various media sources.

Prof. Ford's testimony was passionate, intelligent, and utterly convincing.

The republican counter is that Kavanaugh aggressively fought back, in an overtly political manner. The judge berated his accuser as some kind of Democratic conspiracy, blaming the Clintons.

Yet, Prof. Ford demonstrated a natural independence and clearly showed that there was no political bias in identifying her attacker. She repeatedly affirmed her support for an FBI investigation by saying she believed they could help her help the committee reach a just conclusion.

Kavanaugh belligerently and petulantly dodged the question of whether he would support such an investigation, while at the same time, wailing and moaning about the lack of a complete evidence trail. He showed open contempt for allowing witnesses to back up either his account or Dr. Ford's.

This sitting judge's contempt for the democratic process, and for the process of law, is a damning indictment of his intention to lead this committee to the truth. He's determined to substitute this stacked committee's partisan judgment for a process of investigative law, something that I would think is an anathema for a judge. It's certainly something that would disqualify any nominee for any position in government for any Democratic nominee facing these committee republicans.

Moreover, his temperament demonstrated in this rebuttal is not one that should be expected from someone tasked to adjudicate myriad cases fraught with contradictions, omissions, and complex defenses and prosecutions. The image of this judge yelling and crying from the federal bench (and if advanced to the Supreme Court) is a terrifying image of U.S. jurisprudence. This is a sitting judge, openly scorning the process that would advance him to a higher Court, actively obstructing the search for the truth he claims to seek.

The only conclusion to be had is that this person believes he's entitled to the Court seat; that he thinks he's entitled to sidestep scrutiny or challenge to his record or reputation; that he believes he's immune from accountability for his past by virtue of membership in a privileged class of politicians currently holding the majority of votes, presumably, in his favor.

For Trump-era republicans, their ability to outvote Democrats is all of the justice or justification they need to act, consistently in the most partisan manner they can accomplish. Their morality is mired in their ability to dominate this confirmation process, in the end, and manipulate the process with selective umbrage and obstruction of even the law enforcement professionals who could clarify their decision-making with actual witness statements and evidence.

It's privilege they're asserting here, plain and simple. Something women have been struggling for decades to advantage their own needs and rights. That's what republicans are trying to accomplish here, the advancement of their male-dominated privilege, and the suppression of this women and her right to hold this man accountable for his actions against her.
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So yelling and beating up on the victim rallied republicans? (Original Post) bigtree Sep 2018 OP
This is What Fascism Looks Like dlk Sep 2018 #1
That Is Exactly It LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #2
It's probably what Trump advised him to do leftstreet Sep 2018 #3
Sickening. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #18
All the more reason we need to vote out the Republicans ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2018 #4
Lindsey Graham "saved the day" budkin Sep 2018 #5
kick bigtree Sep 2018 #6
. bigtree Sep 2018 #7
It is a party of liars and criminals. dalton99a Sep 2018 #8
This is all these old men's sick fantasies. They love all of this because cbdo2007 Sep 2018 #9
More like it was all irrelevant. Codeine Sep 2018 #10
They all get BillyBobBrilliant Sep 2018 #11
It's a very old concept gratuitous Sep 2018 #12
Graham was barking the loudest because he wants to win Drumpf's kennel club show so bad... Crowman2009 Sep 2018 #13
Bullies gonna bully. Initech Sep 2018 #14
I think part of the point of this was intimidation... malthaussen Sep 2018 #15
Arrogant Bastard...the name of a fine ale BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #16
That seems to be the catalyst that jumpstarts their motors? kentuck Sep 2018 #17
Of course it did. louis-t Sep 2018 #19
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!!! maxrandb Sep 2018 #20

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
3. It's probably what Trump advised him to do
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:03 PM
Sep 2018
President Trump in Woodward book: 'You've got to deny' accusations by women

Sept 11, 2018

When accused of sexual assault or other misdeeds by women, President Donald Trump says you've got to "deny, deny, deny," according to veteran journalist Bob Woodward's new book.

The book includes a conversation between Trump and a "friend who had acknowledged some bad behavior toward women." The friend was not named, but the president, who has been accused by more than a dozen women of inappropriate sexual behavior, offered some advice.

(snip)

"You've got to deny, deny, deny and push back on these women," Trump said, according to Woodward. "If you admit to anything and any culpability, then you're dead. That was a big mistake you made."

Trump said the key was showing no hesitancy in denying accusations and instead, be on the attack and push back.

"You didn't come out guns blazing and just challenge them. You showed weakness," Trump told the friend, according to Woodward. "You've got to be strong. You've got to be aggressive. You've got to push back hard. You've got to deny anything that's said about you. Never admit."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/11/donald-trump-bob-woodward-book-fear-deny-accusations-women/1269617002/
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. Sickening.
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:41 AM
Sep 2018

I so want to see him on trial for sexual abuse with airtight evidence that even he can't get around. He's such a disgusting, evil pig!

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
9. This is all these old men's sick fantasies. They love all of this because
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 09:51 AM
Sep 2018

they are stuck in terrible relationships and could never get women to act like porn stars for them, so they think all women should be treated this way. To them, Kavanaugh and Trump are heroes because not only are they getting to do these things all these guys dream about but they go on tv and talk about it and brag about it and the women are further victimized by it.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
10. More like it was all irrelevant.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 09:55 AM
Sep 2018

They weren’t going to stop this nomination no matter what. Believing otherwise was silly and naive.

Crowman2009

(2,497 posts)
13. Graham was barking the loudest because he wants to win Drumpf's kennel club show so bad...
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 02:02 PM
Sep 2018

...and get that cabinet appointment ribbon.

malthaussen

(17,199 posts)
15. I think part of the point of this was intimidation...
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 03:36 PM
Sep 2018

... not of those in the room, but those watching. Particularly white women, whom these old scumwads hope to frighten into compliance as they so often have in the past.

-- Mal

BigmanPigman

(51,594 posts)
16. Arrogant Bastard...the name of a fine ale
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 11:29 PM
Sep 2018

and each male GOP rep in the Senate and House and administration. I am sure Brett is already familiar with it well.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
17. That seems to be the catalyst that jumpstarts their motors?
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:59 AM
Sep 2018

Conflict, aggressiveness, name-calling, yelling, partisan attacks, superior by degree of loudness.

Small-minded people that are getting absolutely too much attention.

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
19. Of course it did.
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 11:18 AM
Sep 2018

They were losing badly. Phony outrage gained them some traction. Pathetic losers that they are.

maxrandb

(15,330 posts)
20. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!!!
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 11:48 AM
Sep 2018

Hasn't anyone heard just 15 fucking seconds of Limbaugh, Hannity or the hundreds of other cookie-cutter hate mongers on over 1,200 radio stations in every nook and cranny of this country?

Their entire spiel is yelling, beating up and vilifying any who dare disagree with them

These are their tactics. This is how they win elections...and if we don't do something fucking pronto about this propaganda or hatred and dehumanization, it will NEVER change.

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