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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 12:05 AM Sep 2018

In retrospect, it was a huge mistake to filibuster Gorsuch

I think that these allegations against Kavanaugh would have stopped several GOP senators from voting for the nuclear option. In their eyes, they could justify it since they viewed Gorsuch as unblemished. I think at least 2 KGOP senators would have thought long and hard about the legitimacy of the nuclear option given these circumstances.

I was one of those who thought they’d nuke under any circumstances so supported the Dem move in 2017. I never envisioned a nominee being as toxic as Kavanaugh at that time though.

Lesson learned to pick my battles more wisely. If we didn’t filibuster in 2017, Kavanaugh would be dead in the water today.

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In retrospect, it was a huge mistake to filibuster Gorsuch (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Sep 2018 OP
fighting against all of them is required as they try to destroy the country TeamPooka Sep 2018 #1
Completely wrong. W_HAMILTON Sep 2018 #2
We need leadership to fight the same way. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #4
I think it would have given cover NewsCenter28 Sep 2018 #5
Bless your innocent heart... W_HAMILTON Sep 2018 #7
I think it would have been same result either way. marylandblue Sep 2018 #3
I dont remember us filibustering Gorsuch standingtall Sep 2018 #6
Technically we did, but they immediately changed the rules unblock Sep 2018 #8

W_HAMILTON

(7,867 posts)
2. Completely wrong.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 12:11 AM
Sep 2018

Republicans would not have allowed the Democrats to do to them what they did to us. If we tried to use the filibuster to stop the Kavanaugh nomination, they would have just eliminated it then.

How many times do Republicans have to fuck us over before people realize that is their DEFAULT position?

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
5. I think it would have given cover
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 12:14 AM
Sep 2018

Flake, Collins, and Murkowski could say they support the nomination but also say they support the long established rules of their ‘august’ body. It would have allowed those without a spine some wiggle room to block Kavanaugh.

W_HAMILTON

(7,867 posts)
7. Bless your innocent heart...
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 12:28 AM
Sep 2018

...but that wouldn't have been what happened.

There is absolutely no chance in hell Mitch McConnell would have allowed the Democrats to filibuster a Supreme Court nomination away. Absolutely none.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
3. I think it would have been same result either way.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 12:13 AM
Sep 2018

If they aren't already thinking long and hard about the Supreme Court, then they aren't thinking at all.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
6. I dont remember us filibustering Gorsuch
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 12:18 AM
Sep 2018

I remember republicans going nuclear before we even had the chance.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
8. Technically we did, but they immediately changed the rules
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 12:47 AM
Sep 2018

Using the "nuclear option", to change the requirement to simple majority for Supreme Court confirmations.

So the filibuster didn't last very long at all.

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