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iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:40 AM Sep 2018

Laurence Tribe: Rachel Maddow's analysis of two key flaws in KV defense was brilliant


@tribelaw
4h4 hours ago

Rachel @maddow’s hour-long analysis tonight of the two key factual flaws in the Kavanaugh defense was absolutely brilliant and not to be found elsewhere. My urgent hope is that every Senator watches it before voting.





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I recall Rachel saying one flaw was Kavanaugh's relying on (multiple times) the statement from Dr Ford's friend. Kavanaugh read the statement where Dr Ford's friend said she didn't know Kavanaugh. However as Rachel pointed out , Dr Ford had previously been questioned about that by Mitchell and told Mitchell that her friend had called her to apologize for the inaccurate statement that had been unilaterally made by the friend's lawyer, not the friend herself.

Anybody remember the 2nd flaw?
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uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
6. Am I the only that's getting the feeling there's more to KNaw than him being a drunk? The money
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:56 AM
Sep 2018

... questions and the attitude and a couple of more groups coming out against him including the ABA.

Somethings more up with that guy than just what Thomas was

alwaysinasnit

(5,066 posts)
5. 2nd flaw was the timing of Dr. Ford's efforts to inform her congressional rep.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:56 AM
Sep 2018

KavaNut was accusing Dr. Ford (and Dems) with doing everything possible to stop tRump's nominee from being confirmed. Rachel pointed out that Dr. Ford took action when she heard KavaNut was on the short list. Dr. Ford wasn't trying to stop tRump's nominee from being confirmed, rather she was trying to make sure that the nominee wasn't KavaNut.

That was my take on it.

TheBlackAdder

(28,201 posts)
9. Correct. Kav tried to paint it as a Dem attack on Trump, as well as Clinton revenge on him.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 02:06 AM
Sep 2018

.

It couldn't be a Dem attack on Trump since she mailed the letter while Kavanaugh was on the short list, prior to selection. She was trying to warn Trump and others not to pick Kavanaugh, she wasn't trying to stop others from being selected.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. This IS a huge point. Providing information on one person
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 05:46 AM
Sep 2018

on the "short list" in no way injured the others being considered. This was not partisan, but rather, as Blasey Ford said, a matter of civic duty.

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
11. I watched Rachel live, and she made me feel much better.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 04:39 AM
Sep 2018

She was even more awesome than usual, and she's usually pretty awesome.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
13. Am watching her talk about the 1st Flaw now...HOW the hell wasn't that put to Kavanaugh ???? This
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 05:32 AM
Sep 2018

is a massive ball that was dropped.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. The "first flaw" may have connected the CALENDAR to the party.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 06:01 AM
Sep 2018

DirecTV's new system is hiding Rachel and I can't see it. But check this out, which IS being addressed in the WaPo's politics section, which they all pay attention to:

Kavanaugh is pressed on the key July 1 entry in his calendar. But only to a point.

It was Kavanaugh’s hope that providing those calendars would show that he attended no such gathering. He insisted, in his testimony Thursday, that any party of the sort must have been on a weekend (since he and his friends had jobs) and that the calendars showed that essentially all of the weekends were booked with other activities. ... Rachel Mitchell, hired by the Republican majority of the Senate Judiciary Committee to navigate the questioning of Kavanaugh and Ford, pointed to one particular calendar entry that got some attention after the calendars came out. It read:

Tobin’s House — Workout / Go to Timmy’s for Skis w/ Judge, Tom, PJ, Bernie, Squi

The reference to “skis” is apparently to “brewskis,” or beers. The entry was July 1, a Thursday. Mitchell asked him about it.

MITCHELL: The entry says, and I quote, go to ‘Timmy’s for skis with Judge, Tom, P.J. Bernie and ... Squi?’

KAVANAUGH: Squi. It’s a nickname.

MITCHELL: To what does this refer, and to whom?

KAVANAUGH: [after explaining the “Tobin’s House” part] It looks like we went over to Timmy’s. You want to know their last names, too? I’m happy to do it.

MITCHELL: If you could just identify: Is ‘Judge’ Mark Judge?

KAVANAUGH: It is. It’s Tim Gaudette, Mark Judge, Tom Kaine, P.J. Smyth, Bernie McCarthy, Chris Garrett.


Notice two things here. First, that “Squi” was in attendance at the party — someone who, we learned thanks to Mitchell’s questioning of Ford, was going out with Ford over the course of that summer. Second, notice those two other attendees, one of whom Mitchell highlighted: Mark Judge and P.J. Smyth.

Mitchell’s questioning continued.

MITCHELL: Did you in your calendar routinely document social gatherings like house parties or gatherings of friends in your calendar?

KAVANAUGH: Yes, it certainly appears that way, that’s what I was doing in the summer of 1982. You can see that reflected on several of the-- several of the entries.

MITCHELL: If a gathering like Dr. Ford has described had occurred, would you have documented that?

KAVANAUGH: Yes, because I documented everything, those kinds of events, even small get-togethers. August 7 is another good example where I documented a small get-together that summer. So yes.


During her testimony, Ford made clear that the event at which she says she was assaulted was a casual get-together before the others (who were older than her and had a later curfew) went to other, bigger parties. Kavanaugh says that the gathering at Timmy’s on July 1 was essentially that.

We noted Thursday, too, that the time frame of this July 1 party fits with Ford’s testimony. She says that six to eight weeks after the alleged assault, she saw Judge working at a store in the area. Judge’s book indicates that he was working at that store for several weeks in early to mid-August.

This is a central point to Ford’s allegation. Kavanaugh denies knowing her, denies being at a party with her. Here is an event in July where he was with several long-standing friends, two of whom were named by Ford and one of whom she’d been going out with.

But Mitchell’s next question completely fumbles the point.

MITCHELL: Have you reviewed every entry that is in these calendars of May, June, July and August of 1982.

KAVANAUGH: I have.

MITCHELL: Is there anything that could even remotely fit what we’re talking about in terms of Dr. Ford’s allegations?

KAVANAUGH: No.


That was it. Mitchell changed the subject.

There were all sorts of ways that Mitchell could have pressed the issue. How, for example, might Ford have been able to identify by name two of Kavanaugh’s close friends if she didn’t know him or had barely met him? Why isn’t it possible that this July 1 get-together was precisely the sort of event at which Ford alleges she was assaulted? That more than remotely fits the allegation? But she didn’t ask.

Mitchell had been stepping in for Republican senators during the day’s questioning, a tactic that helped the majority avoid the spectacle of men grilling a woman about an attack she says she experienced. There was no break in that pattern — until the July 1 question. After that series of questions, Mitchell didn’t speak again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/27/kavanaugh-is-pressed-key-july-entry-his-calendar-only-point/?utm_term=.f1d49065dd08
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