KAVANAUGH LIED

[Brainstormy]

The Devil’s Triangle is NOT a drinking game. Kavanaugh lied.

“—skies” means brewskies, and everybody knows it. Kavanaugh lied.

"Boof" means taking in alcohol anally. Kavanaugh lied.

“FFFF” is an acronym for Find them, French them, Feel them, Finger them, F*ck them, Forget them." Kavanaugh claimed this was not an acronym, but rather a play on a friend with a verbal tic who "wound up" his F's before saying the F-word. Kavanaugh lied.

The “Renate Alumnus" entry in his yearbook refers to Renate Schroeder and clearly was a reference to sexual familiarity. Schroeder was one of 65 women who signed a letter sent to the Senate attesting to Kavanaugh's honorable treatment about women. Kavanaugh lied.

“Barfing” is a slang term for throwing up and everybody knows it. The reference in the yearbook occurred in relationship to Kavanaugh’s barfing on a prep school trip that involved heavy drinking. Kavanaugh claimed it was a casual reference to his well-known weak stomach. Kavanaugh lied.

Kavanaugh claimed that his beer consumption in high school was legal because the drinking age in Maryland was 18. In reality, by the time he was 18, the drinking age was 21. Kavanaugh lied.

He repeatedly said that all witnesses had refuted Dr. Ford’s testimony. That was a whopper. KAVANAUGH IS A LIAR.

[Me.]

1. He Watched Her Testimony

even though he told Senator Harris he didn't

[Mira]

23. I'm also sure of it

I could see it in his face. And not having watched it would have been the stupidest thing possible in his situation

[SergeStorms]

48. Yep, he watched it.

Along with several White House attorneys, Frank Luntz - or someone exactly like him - to parse questions and coach him on what he should say, along with other assorted and sundry Republican operatives. They got him so used to lying (not that he needs any help) that he could do it without batting an eye, but he's a very poor liar, and couldn't pull it off. He was as obvious as Trump's fake tan.

[Separation]

58. This proves his guilt

It's the small things that lead to the big whoppers.

If I was him, but not the sexual predator and raging mean alcoholic that he is. I would have told the committee that I did indeed watch her testimony. Why wouldn't I? I have no idea what she is talking about and it would be silly of me to not watch it.

As for all of his yearbook lies, I would have said again, that yes those are attributed to me. I was a teenager at the time, I know now that that type of behavior is not acceptable. I would have never lied about any of those things. Especially under oath!!

The problem is. Kavanaugh is a sexual predator, and he is also a raging mean drunk.

[greymattermom]

2. Here's what I don't get.

When my son was 17, we were warned several times by officials at the school that if underage drinking occurred at our house, EVEN IF WE WERE NOT HOME, we were liable and could be charged. What about the parents? The kids didn't own these houses.

[Caliman73]

4. Are you from a wealthy, connected, and powerful family?

The rules are different for them. Justice is not blind, she's in need of a quick buck.

[greymattermom]

55. If anyone here knows Kansas City, we lived in Leawood.

But not in Hallbrook, so some of the kids fit your description because we were in the same school district.

[LisaM]

13. I've known rich kids, and I don't get the parents either.

In fact, my boyfriends' sister and her husband - wealthy - seem to be in complete denial about their own kids. Their daughter was found passed out in a ditch (and barely breathing) when she was 15 and had to be resuscitated in ER. Their son had a party in their own house while they were there, and the police had to be called because a kid almost died from drinking - they were alerted because another parent called them and demanded to know if they knew what was happening in their own house, which they didn't even know!!!. The son told me he pours Baileys in his coffee every morning at college, and keeps refilling it throughout the day so that he's basically wasted by his fourth class of the day, and when he goes to the family cabin, it's a mess of beer bottles when he and his friends leave (and he just became legal this year, so it was mostly underage drinking).

Yet, the parents persist in thinking they're great kids. The daughter has actually called from drinking parties - when she was 17! - and the parents consider her "responsible" for spending the night with her boyfriend and not coming home at all. The son drinks all day, as mentioned. He wrecked a car they bought him, so they bought him another one. Their Christmas letters drip with praise of their kids and how proud they are!! I could not have gotten away with any of those things. Not a one.

There's just some blindness there, and frankly, I've observed it in rich areas. The parents have big houses, stocked liquor cabinets, and they're not around.

Oh, and I'm editing to add that I am not against drinking. I'm against this blind eye people turn to real problems.

[Texin]

36. Frankly, this isn't just a problem for "wealthy" parents.

My family are from working middle-class roots. While in HS, my brother and I went on a church-sponsored (protestant denomination with primarily middle-class families, not all, but most) ski trip to Taos. A group of the older HS kids brought contraband alcohol and the group of about 4 girls and 4 or more boys got completely blitzed. This was group was chaperoned by the youth minister and his wife who was a registered nurse (thank the lord for her being present), along with about 3 more married parents of the kids. Several of us watched from a window while the drunken debauchery and craziness ensued. A couple of the boys started bodily picking up the girls and throwing them onto rocks near the parking lot of the church where we were housed for the weekend! The girls were mostly unfazed by this behavior because they were practically comatose by that point. The parents got wind of what was happening and broke everything up, thankfully, because one of the girls had consumed so much alcohol that she was in mortal danger and I say that seriously, as I witnessed the youth minister's wife trying to keep her from aspirating the booze she kept throwing up. She was unconscious, and had it not been for people watching over her, she likely would have died. I'm sure some of the kids involved in this were from more affluent families and they'd participated in such behavior previously. For the rest of us, the weekend was ruined, and I was not privy to what happened to the kids involved afterward. I know it was "handled" - and I don't mean it was swept under a rug.

[LisaM]

41. But it sounds as if those parents stepped in?

For the stories described by the Georgetown Prep crowd, it seems that these parties were held in parents' houses and the parents were absent.

[Calista241]

45. I disagree with you there.

Wealthy families are even more concerned about legal liabilities. Now, maybe Bill Gates can write a check for a couple million to someone that sues him and not be concerned about it, but there's 20 people like that in the world

Most of today's moderately wealthy would definitely feel the pain of writing a check for a couple hundred grand or even a million or two.

Most umbrella insurance policies cap out at 1 million, and don't cover illegal activity like giving alcohol to minors.

I got a scholarship to a college that had it's fair share of inordinately rich students. When Joe Freshman fuckface basketweaving major drives a new Hummer H1 to class from the house his parents bought for him while he was there, you know they're at least a little rich. They used to send the family lawyer and PI to his house and check on his whereabouts all the time to make sure he was behaving and not putting the family's wealth at risk. And they turned that place upside down when they came around.

[SergeStorms]

49. I think that was a rather recent wake-up-call for them though.

Back in the 80s most parents would just "let boys be boys" and weren't too concerned about the consequences of their teenagers drinking in their homes. I knew parents who actually encouraged it so they "could keep an eye on them". In all likelihood it's a combination of the two trains of thought. One thing most of us are overlooking is that this is all learned behavior on the teenagers' parts. This bad behavior didn't originate in a vacuum. They either saw their parents act this way, or they learned it from older students at their parties. I imagine these parties were considered a right of passage for the children of the wealthy and connected in the D.C. area. Later on, in the 90s and 2000s, there started to be a more "hold the parents accountable" movement. How can we forget the kid in Texas with the doting mother for which the term "afflluenza" was coined. What a pair those two were!

[FakeNoose]

16. Back in the 80's things were looser, a lot of parents shrugged off their responsibility

There were a lot of lenient parents in the 70's and 80's and that was part of the problem.

I agree with you, it should be the parents' responsibility and they should be held liable for these teenage drinking parties on their property. In the last 30 years things have become much more dangerous with drugs, money, sex, cars, even firearms available to these kids.

Also some parents (usually very wealthy ones) seemed to do a lot of travelling during the school year. Their kids stayed home and the house was free for anything goes. Sometimes it's the kids' friends who took advantage.

[LisaM]

19. Well, this is now, and things haven't changed.

The stuff I described above is now. The major difference might be that the drugs of choice are changing, but make no mistake, this is still going on.

When I was approaching drinking age, 18 was the legal age and most of the drinking was beers in kegs - our dorm even had parties with kegs. It was basically light beer and it was free. Now, they drink more hard liquor. I even saw a study by college presidents wanting the drinking age to be lowered so that the consumption of hard alcohol would go down.

[FakeNoose]

21. You're saying the police hold parents liable now

...so that is different.

I think it's a different generation of parents now, who are much smarter about the trouble that kids can get into. When I was a teenager I could get away with a lot because my parents weren't paying attention and they trusted me too much. I'm embarrassed to say that I took advantage of it too. I guess I'm lucky I survived.

[LisaM]

24. Ah, I see. I actually didn't say that.

I said that other parents called the police about a party at their house (taking place while they were there but in a different part), but I don't think any charges were pressed, they just took care of the kid who was on the verge of death.

[MountCleaners]

20. It depends on the school

I went to an elite Catholic school with a lot of wealthy families and area bigshots' kids, and they clearly looked the other way about such things. As long as you kept your activities private, they didn't stick their nose in it. Not only that, but they refused to address broader issues like alcohol abuse or mistreatment of girls. The boys got together and started a campaign to put an "ugly" girl on the Homecoming court as a cruel joke on her, and she made it. The school did not intervene. They particularly favored boys, because let's face it, it's mainly the boys who will go on to prestigious schools and jobs. They need the parents' and alumni's donations.

This is why you see the Jekyll and Hyde behavior from Kavanaugh - tacitly the culture of these schools encourages one public facade while indulging the "boys will be boys" philosophy. This is why it was so important to Kavanaugh to make a big issue out of going to church and being studious, why he had to lie about what the yearbook entries meant. The culture of right-wing Catholics demands that you maintain a spotless appearance - even trivial things have to be lied about.

[unitedwethrive]

25. I have teenagers, and I know a lot of parents who would rather have the kids drink at their house

where "it's safe", then out at make-shift parties. I've been lucky to have the nerdy kids who stay home and study on weekends.

[Hassler]

39. Wasn't his mom the county prosecutor?

[sofa king]

52. I have some relevant experience here about '80s Beltway high school partying.

My credentials are in order, I believe. I attended the Rock and Roll Parking Lot presentation of Judas Priest at the Capital Centre. I got wasted at Beach Week, a couple years running. It looks like I was around three to four years behind Kavanaugh and across the river, but circumstances were nonetheless probably quite similar.

It's actually rather difficult to convey exactly how hard people were partying in my day, particularly high school kids, particularly in that region. All of those kids relied entirely on a word-of-mouth social network specifically designed to evade the eyes of intrusive parents, hence the mass-migration to the beach every late spring. But even the most intrusive parents would be considered hands-off by today's helicopter-parent standards. MANY parents felt that kids needed to blow off all this steam before they became culpable for it as adults.

This was coming at a time and in a region where there was widespread exploitation of the drinking laws, too. Washington, DC only begrudgingly raised its drinking age to 21 years after neighboring states and grandfathered in thousands and thousands of high school kids, including Kavanaugh. Virtually everyone had an Electromax I.D. that would get you into most places, anyway. There was widespread resistance to the raising of the drinking age and bars and restaurants were spotty in enforcement because they needed the money.

Racism, sexism, homophobia, and a host of other nasty attitudes were often tolerated and even celebrated within those giant drinking circles. "FFFF" in particular just might be a reference to a particularly vile song called "4F Club" by The Mentors.

Oh, and I should also add that the parents, while publicly exhibiting a stand-off approach, were just as invasive and intrusive as they are today--and these parents were all of the spies that the United States employed, statistically. CIA, NSA, DIA, all of them watching their own kids, developing their own informants, running their own spy networks on their high schools. I guarantee you that Kavanaugh's behavior was watched, documented, and reported upon.

[DesertRat]

3. He lied about being legal to drink in high school

https://apnews.com/e4a48c01f3bf4094b9faea33cd049729

[babylonsister]

5. Even worse, boof...

Link to tweet

[Pachamama]

7. Same with "Ralph"

I grew up in my teen years in bethesda after coming from Germany. My family belonged to Columbia Country Club and a beach house in Rehobeth Beach.

I know what Boof and Ralph mean....

He thinks we are all idiots

[charliea]

12. Damn I'm ignorant

I went to an all-male Jesuit high school just like Kavanaugh, although it was in flyover country, about 12 years earlier than him. There were associated all-female sister schools just like Kavanaugh. However I was (am) a nerd. I knew what ralph, barf, and technicolor yawn meant even then, but until yesterday I'd never even heard the word 'boof'.

Somehow I think that was a good thing.

[calimary]

17. I'm learning it for the first time in this scandal's coverage, too.

I went to an all-girls' Catholic school that was the sister school with a Jesuit all-boys high school nearby. Not in flyover country. I was a nerd, too. Heard what I guess at the time was the worst it could be. But never heard the word "boof" either.

[trof]

18. I'm 77. In high school and college 'calling Ralph' was barfing.

"Charlie was hugging the john all night, calling Ralph."

[CincyDem]

26. Ahhh...driving the porcelain bus. That was john hugging in the late 70's midwest. lol

[OxQQme]

37. Praying to the Porcelain God.

[Pepsidog]

10. I graduated HS in 1980. Small catholic school. Boof means having sex.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

42. I need to say something about the term "boof"

Living out here in the Great Pacific Northwest, kayaking is a popular pastime. Rivers, lakes, the Pacific. "Boofing" has long meant keeping the nose of your boat up and out of the water, like when approaching a rapids, a waterfall or some other turbulence in the waters. As in "Those are some serious rapids. Better boof up."

Don't know when the term got bastardized into sexual connotation, but not everyone uses the word in the same way.

Just saying . . .

[Ms. Toad]

46. As to perjury - probably not.

He was completely flummoxed by a latin phrase commonly used in jury trials: Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus, and had to ask Senator Blumenthal to define it.

(Even if he's never heard it (a tad unbelievable), the words are close enough to english he should have been able to reason it out.)

[eppur_se_muova]

6. Isn't lying to Congress a felony ? So why isn't he being charged ?

(Rhetorical question. )

[Initech]

8. FFFF definitely is code for abuse of women.

I remember that one from my high school days. It doesn't take an FBI investigator to figure that one out.

[DoctorJoJo]

32. I Was In HS In the 50s! The Old 4-F System Was Well Known Then!

[Perseus]

9. Unless Democrats show all you have provided then it is a sad thing we only get to read it

Democrats need to be more forceful, I don't understand why they let this gu interrupt them and go on tangents when not answering questions...Why do I care who was playing 3rd base at the Red Sox game during a hearing? He is full of it, but unless he is exposed as the liar he is then it doesn't matter, we know it, but how will the rest of the country know it if the Democrats don't expose him?

[iluvtennis]

11. Rethugs don't care that he lied. They're standing by their man

[Cosmocat]

14. Boof is anal sex

Butt ... Fu___.

[LuvNewcastle]

22. Yes, that's what it meant when I was in school in the 80s.

[d_r]

27. Yes

Back in the 80s it was short for Bu Fu short for butt f*, it was from that it got used years later for alcohol up the butt. In the 80s that wasn't a thing yet.

Well I guess these prep school jocks were probably cutting edge teen drinkers so maybe they did do that.

[pdsimdars]

15. should be -- Kavanaugh lied AGAIN

[worstexever]

28. He's a huge liar

What gets me is that no one challenged his lame explanations for the obvious references in his yearbook. Why is that?

[NewJeffCT]

29. On the drinking age

I know some states allowed you to still drink legally if you turned 18 before the drinking age was raised to 21 - you were "grandfathered" in, even though you were still not 21. Not sure if that was the case in Maryland as I don't know the MD law nor the timing of it.

[gay texan]

30. I need to make a correction to this

"Boof", at least to this 1980s kid, meant "to fuck"

[neohippie]

31. Isn't there email proof Kavanaugh lied under oath

I thought there are emails and documentation that proved Kavanaugh has already lied under oath multiple times in previous confirmation hearings. WHY did nobody introduce the documents into evidence in yesterdays hearing?

WHY did no one question Kavanaugh directly about this proof that he has already been caught lying under oath and that would he as a judge think that lying under oath is some thing that is serious enough to disqualify a candidate being considered for the highest court?

WHY didn't someone make him squirm on national television and admit that he had lied multiple times previously in his confirmation hearings?

Those past events, with documented proof and forcing him to confess on TV and in front of God, the committee and everyone that he lied under oath was a huge missed opportunity

[Hermit-The-Prog]

38. why? artificial GOP time constraints

There was far too much to cover in the ridiculously rushed hearings. That's why all of the Dems emphasized an FBI investigation -- no hope of slowing the Kavanaugh train enough for the committee itself to investigate, so call on FBI and hope the PUBLIC helps demand it.

[zentrum]

33. Wonder if the FBI

…would be interested in tracking down all these real meanings.

Thanks for posting. Send to key Democrats. Send to key journalists.

[zentrum]

34. From the Urban Dictionary

...yes, the number one defintion of FFFF is:

F.F.F.F.
A one night stand. Used a lot in the 80's
Find 'em, Feel 'em, Fuck 'em and Forget 'em
by 9livez March 03, 2005

[progree]

35. Used a lot in the late 60's too, I was around then. And the 70's...

[neohippie]

40. Boofing...

Boofing more commonly refers to anally ingesting drugs.

Mark Judge we know was a drug and alcohol abuser. My guess is that whoever wrote this in Kavanaugh's yearbook was probably most likely referring to taking drugs anally but it was also used to refer to anal sex

[SayItLoud]

43. Easiest to prove or disprove is the guy with the stutter...or no stutter.

[LAS14]

56. I don't get this one. nt

[bucolic_frolic]

44. Alcohol and temperament are concerns here

Looks to me like his health is so-so for his age. A little pudgy, circles, cranky.

I've seen people who consume regularly, 3-4 times a week, with binges when stressed. Very sad. Can lead to circulatory disorders, ischemia essentially, gall bladder, or even diabetes. I'm no doctor, but I do read medical books and recognize a few things.

[Cha]

47. Geeze.. it's like I was sheltered. I hadn't

heard of any of these terms until now.

And, we still had fun.

[Calista241]

50. It's going to be very hard to prove perjury on this.

I swear it’s like people are forgetting that he’s a super educated lawyer, and a sitting judge.

Even if PJ or Judge come out and say Ffffff meant something else, they cannot testify to what Kavaugh knew. Kavanaugh just has to say “Well, that’s not what i thought it means,” and it’s case closed unless there’s other proof that he knew differently.

All of these people will have seen Kav’s testimony by the time the FBI gets to them. It will be easier for them to just agree with what he says. Nothing Kav has said so far is criminal (insofar as we’re taking about his yearbook and calendars) and they wouldn’t be exposing themselves by repeating it. Unless several of them just hate Kavanaugh and hold a grudge for some reason.

Most of them probably won’t even remember 2/3 of the shit they’re asked about. Kav probably spent all week reading all his old stuff and researching all that crap. Most of these witnesses will spend 30 minutes with their lawyer telling them to say “i don’t remember” a bunch of times.

[samnsara]

51. boof means whaaaaat? and whyyyyyyy???? the EFF is there even a name for that!

[libdem4life]

53. Must admit I've learned facts that I really didn't care to know.

Rural high school in the 60s. Drinking was a scandal. Boy's pants showing the butt crack. Girls dresses above the knees...yes we had to kneel down to prove it and we couldn't wear pants of any kind. There was still a paddle...used occasionally...hanging on the principal's wall to remind us.

Oh, and a bottle of Coke was still a nickle and a penny.

[shanti]

60. Did the paddle have holes drilled into it?

That's the way it was in my JH/HS.

[libdem4life]

63. Yep. Never quite figured it out.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

65. Drive-in theater, Coca-Cola & popcorn and then parking on a gravel road!

Whole dam thing for around a dollar, as I recall, around 64/65. Listening to Bobby Vinton on the radio. Had to be home waaaay before midnight.

Coke, candy and peanuts were a nickle (1-cent return on the bottle) and gas was a quarter a gallon.

Lots of good memories.....

[GoCubsGo]

54. Yep. And, that's not counting the 4-5 times he lied under oath in previous Senate appearances.

[Chemisse]

57. Not only should he be denied the Supreme Court position, he should be debarred for lying under oath.

It's vile that he lied so blatantly, knowing that there were multitudes listening who KNEW they were lies, yet believed he would get away with it.

And he may indeed.

[NeverTrumpDemocrat]

59. In the 80s, boofing meant anal sex - and I think "skis" in his calendar meant cocaine.

Butt chugging didn't exist at that time.

Also, considering the full context, I'm convinced that "skis" in Kavs calendar meant cocaine, not beers ---

1) Calling beers "brewskis" as an 80s teen would have been rather passe -

2) Kav was obviously drinking and partying big time and often - remember the 100 Keg Club in his senior year? It's highly unlikely that he would have put down on his calendar what seems to be a rather low key casual gathering to drink beer with a handful of his buddies.

3) Prep school kids both then and now are known for their access to and consumption of all kinds of hard drugs. He was drinking beer on a regular basis and a lowkey drinking session was not worthy of a calendar reminder; the fact that some buddy of his promised some coke at "Timmy's house" makes more sense as something he might write down.

4) We all noticed how much he lied about little things in his testimony in order to paint himself as a plaster saint. "Oh, I have a weak stomach, for food too! That's why I threw up so much!" "Alumnus just meant we were all good friends with Renate!" He even claimed during the summer of '82 he only drank on the weekends. But did you notice he voiced no hint of objection when Democratic senators assumed that "skis" meant "brewskis"? No hint of objection at all!

Why didn't he make up some nonsense about how "skis' meant that Timmy's house had a NordicTrack that he and his buddies got into the habit of using after a weight lifting session? That "skis=brewskis" assumption was the only time during the testimony as I recall that Kavanaugh didn't blow smoke on anything that might challenge his self-created altar boy image.

[LibDemAlways]

61. The biggest whopper of all

was "I'm innocent." He lied about all the little stuff, true. Why would he suddenly take truth serum when it came to the issue at hand? Guilty as hell. He must be shitting bricks wondering if Judge has decided to come clean.

[dalton99a]

62. Kick

[LiberalArkie]

64. I think Kavanaugh was never intended to be made judge. Just who do the R's really want there?