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Joe Nation

(963 posts)
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 10:48 PM Sep 2018

I am the same age as Kavanaugh and was in college at the same time in the early 80's

When I was in high school in the late 70's, my group of friends included one young lady that I had a crush on. Well, many us in the group had a crush on her because she was cute, very nice, very friendly and open, smart, and just a good person. Her parents were sort of religious nuts and controlled her every move and she had a pretty lousy home life but still managed to be just a great person in spite of her parents.

Several of the guys in our group dated her on and off after high school and I wished that I had the courage to ask her out. I never did and instead had relationships outside that circle of friends/roommates and sort of drifted away from my friendship with this young woman and pretty much lost interest in a relationship with her.

One Saturday night after a wedding reception of a mutual friend, I saw this young woman plastered out her mind being escorted to a car of one of the guests that to say the least, wasn't interested in just driving her home. I swooped in and took her by the arm and said something like, "Oh no, I'll take my sister home". On the way to her apartment, I could barely peel her off of me while I was driving. She was trying to kiss me, grab me, and rub herself all over me in a drunken state. I pushed her back into the passenger seat until I made it back to her apartment. I helped her up to her floor and got her inside with a lot of help since she couldn't even open the lock. By this point, she wasn't feeling very well and went into the bathroom and began to throw up. I stuck around long enough to make sure that she was OK and when her roommate finally came home, I left and went home.

This young woman had spent most of the time after leaving home getting drunk and being used by anyone who happen to be open to doing whatever they wanted to her. She had some major mental health issues and there seemed to be no shortage of men in the bars that were willing to take advantage of a woman that had no idea who they were once she began drinking. The unusual thing about her is that it only took one drink and she was plastered. She said that she had Native American blood and couldn't process alcohol very well. I don't know about that but I have never seen anyone get that drunk that fast in my life.

Many men have used alcohol as a way to take advantage of women and to bolster their own courage. It seems so cowardly and pathetic and immature. We even have quaint little rhymes for the practice. How many of us have heard, "Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker"?

Brett Kavanaugh knows that he participated in this practice and so do the GOP committee members. They believe that it is just part of growing up and as long as you don't do it as an adult, you shouldn't be punished for doing it as a young man. They completely forget the harm that young women suffer as a result and blame the victims for putting themselves in the situation in the first place.

My young friend was crying out for help and only received further abuse, first at the hands of her parents, and then at the hands of men she didn't even know. I even saw a military recruiter she met take advantage of her when she sought possible enlistment. It just never ended for her. I eventually left for college and moved out of state and lost track of her. I'd be amazed if she survived this long as bad as she was back then. I hope she found the help she needed and is doing well today. I guess I'll never know. But no one can tell me that liquored up young men don't turn their attention to liquored up young women as Brett Kavanaugh seems to want us to believe. If he was doing it in high school, college life threw him into high gear. Once you cross that line, you can justify anything you do thereafter. Brett Kavanaugh was capable of anything after knocking back a few glasses of liquid courage and he bragged about doing so often. He likes beer.

I completely believe Christine Blasey Ford.

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I am the same age as Kavanaugh and was in college at the same time in the early 80's (Original Post) Joe Nation Sep 2018 OP
Here this might fit what you did and what you are saying thinkingagain Sep 2018 #1
so glad i can handle liquor pretty darn well, but then i hate barfing + i would never getdrunk. pansypoo53219 Sep 2018 #2
You were customerserviceguy Sep 2018 #3
One of the best things I've read all day. woofless Sep 2018 #4
There are plenty of good men out there Joe Nation Sep 2018 #5

thinkingagain

(906 posts)
1. Here this might fit what you did and what you are saying
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 11:16 PM
Sep 2018

Song by Chris Jansen
Drunk Girl,
“Take a drunk girl home / Let her sleep all alone / Leave her keys on the counter, your number by the phone / Pick up her life she threw on the floor / Leave the hall lights on, walk out and lock the door / That’s how she knows the difference between a boy and man / Take a drunk girl home.”

Drunk Girl tackles a much more serious subject matter: respecting women, regardless of the circumstances

http://www.kscs.com/2017/12/12/chris-jansons-new-single-implores-you-to-take-a-drunk-girl-home/

Hopefully link works trying to do this on my phone and it has been acting funky lately

pansypoo53219

(20,986 posts)
2. so glad i can handle liquor pretty darn well, but then i hate barfing + i would never getdrunk.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 11:25 PM
Sep 2018

but i have been a very lucky. sheltered girl it seems. minnesota nice? WI must be nice too.

Joe Nation

(963 posts)
5. There are plenty of good men out there
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:40 AM
Sep 2018

And unfortunately, many, many cowards and losers as well. Men have to make the choice to end this cycle of abusiveness towards women and men have to be the ones that tell other men that it is not acceptable to treat women as pieces of meat. Men are the problem and they have to be the solution or we will never realize the full potential of a society where men and women are treated equally.

I have so much respect for women like Christine Blasey Ford. She is the definition of courage. Courage isn't the absence of fear, it is acting in spite of fear. Maybe Mark Judge can muster a little courage this week?

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