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Avenattization of politics (Original Post) Roland99 Oct 2018 OP
As usual qazplm135 Oct 2018 #1
I'm actually glad that he's the one being truculent and insulting. ehrnst Oct 2018 #2
As always manor321 Oct 2018 #3
That is the whole problem Bettie Oct 2018 #14
Trump is the very first American "Insulter In Chief". Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #4
More like Andrew Dice Clay flibbitygiblets Oct 2018 #10
Whoa...Hickory Dickory Dock, that a really really small ____🤗 Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #16
Hammer meet nail... lunatica Oct 2018 #23
Don Rickles was funny. Trump's a joke but not a funny one mythology Oct 2018 #18
Avenatti has been a force for good, he hasn't lied and he's proven every single one ... marble falls Oct 2018 #5
+1000 Trust Buster Oct 2018 #6
We don't usually disagree, but if Avenatti weren't in the spotlight, the spotlight wouldn't be rzemanfl Oct 2018 #7
Amen 🙏 n/t blue cat Oct 2018 #8
What democratic norm has Avenatti trashed, as the tweet accuses? Representing sexual assault Squinch Oct 2018 #9
Everything Avenatti says is true flibbitygiblets Oct 2018 #11
This was inevitable when Trump was elected marylandblue Oct 2018 #12
Republicans tear everything apart, Democrats are mocked for being weak EffieBlack Oct 2018 #13
Exactly! Bettie Oct 2018 #15
The usual "can't we just get along?"/ both sides codswollop from the Atlantic. smdh shanny Oct 2018 #17
Look Where Taking The High Road Has Gotten Us ChoppinBroccoli Oct 2018 #19
I go back and forth. I don't like viewing him as a partisan hero for using legal means or media WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #20
Bingo! Roland99 Oct 2018 #21
Darned him! H2O Man Oct 2018 #22
Avenatti has proven that men can be activist Feminists lunatica Oct 2018 #24
Trump, enabled and emboldened by a complicit GOP caucus... LincolnRossiter Oct 2018 #25
Does The Atlantic have any progressive cred any more? Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #26
They aren't the only conventional mainstream outlet ... LincolnRossiter Oct 2018 #31
Avenatti isn't a politician quadtetra Oct 2018 #27
you should look more carefully at who you agree with lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #28
+1 dalton99a Oct 2018 #36
MEH. Depose Trump first, before we go after our own. (n/t) FreepFryer Oct 2018 #29
Fuck that noise. I'm going to need proof Liberals have been trashing certain Democratic norms. Autumn Oct 2018 #30
Right? Avenatti is a private citizen. violetpastille Oct 2018 #33
I like the fact that he's out there keeping all this to the front where it can't be ignored. Autumn Oct 2018 #34
Avenatti lacks the wisdom to be a great statesman Beakybird Oct 2018 #32
So what law or ethics code has he violated? dalton99a Oct 2018 #35
He's a threat ... GeorgeGist Oct 2018 #37

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
1. As usual
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:33 AM
Oct 2018

Republicans get to act a fool and if Dems act even a little bit out of line folks get the vapors.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
2. I'm actually glad that he's the one being truculent and insulting.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:37 AM
Oct 2018

It gives those who want their own feelings acted out in the public sphere some gratification.

That way Democratic leaders can do their job, and keep the mantle of "calm and reasoned."

Bettie

(16,124 posts)
14. That is the whole problem
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:02 AM
Oct 2018

why is that? Why are we just supposed to stand there and get hit in the face over and over with never a single hint of hitting back?

marble falls

(57,181 posts)
5. Avenatti has been a force for good, he hasn't lied and he's proven every single one ...
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:40 AM
Oct 2018

of his "bombasts" as factual and true. He may not be nice guy but he is a effective guy who brings out the truth. I wish we had more like him. I don't care if he defends porn stars or not.

rzemanfl

(29,567 posts)
7. We don't usually disagree, but if Avenatti weren't in the spotlight, the spotlight wouldn't be
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:44 AM
Oct 2018

on Democrats. Going high hasn't worked very well.

Squinch

(50,999 posts)
9. What democratic norm has Avenatti trashed, as the tweet accuses? Representing sexual assault
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:49 AM
Oct 2018

victims? Shouting to get them a hearing?

I don't see anything being trashed there.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
12. This was inevitable when Trump was elected
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:57 AM
Oct 2018

His insulting self-serving brand of politics was bound to elicit an insulting self-serving reaction.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
13. Republicans tear everything apart, Democrats are mocked for being weak
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:00 AM
Oct 2018

if we don't fight fire with fire ...

But when anyone fights back, we're attacked for coarsening the debate.

Bettie

(16,124 posts)
15. Exactly!
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:04 AM
Oct 2018

We NEED to fight back and if our elected representatives want to keep their hands clean, then Mr. Avanatti is a good surrogate.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
19. Look Where Taking The High Road Has Gotten Us
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:53 AM
Oct 2018

I think it's high time a few of our guys dropped the gloves and start throwing haymakers too. And I've got news for you, our Presidential candidate is going to HAVE to be someone who's not afraid to brawl with the big, bad bully. Not Avenatti, but someone.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,421 posts)
20. I go back and forth. I don't like viewing him as a partisan hero for using legal means or media
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:01 AM
Oct 2018

sensations for bringing political change. I don't like seeing him as an "ally" or "one of ours" for political reasons -- I wouldn't want him to see him run for anything big, for example. I do delight in watching him turn the screw, but I agree that it helps degrade an already crumbling political process.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
24. Avenatti has proven that men can be activist Feminists
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:25 AM
Oct 2018

I champion him! He doesn’t turn the other cheek and he doesn’t back down.

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
25. Trump, enabled and emboldened by a complicit GOP caucus...
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:38 AM
Oct 2018

and throngs of fanatical cult-like supporters, has spent the last three years pissing on every “norm” and convention in national politics, but Dems are supposed to blame Avenatti for the continuing degradation of our national discourse.

Just so I’m tracking: On one hand we have a compulsively dishonest, amoral, corrupt to the core President of the United States, a cadre of enablers in a GOP-controlled Congress, and a Supreme Court that’s about to seat a sexually predatory, drunken, unhinged, ideological partisan fanatic.

So basically the whole government has been this asshole’s cudgel against every person and institution who won’t kiss his ass.

On the other we have a lawyer and TV personality who ruffles some feathers.

Yeah. If only we rein in Avenatti everything will go back to being copacetic.

What a bunch of self-indulgent tripe. That writer must be insane.

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
31. They aren't the only conventional mainstream outlet ...
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:58 AM
Oct 2018

that feels the need to pepper their content with right wing bullshit in order to seem “fair.” It seems as though conservatives’ decades-long crusade, to paint any media that doesn’t report their slanted lies side-by-side with and as an alternative to objective truth, is paying off.

 

quadtetra

(46 posts)
27. Avenatti isn't a politician
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:41 AM
Oct 2018

He is just a private citizen attorney. What norms exactly is he breaking? Trump is POTUS. The article is rubbish.

lapfog_1

(29,222 posts)
28. you should look more carefully at who you agree with
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:44 AM
Oct 2018

Seth (from his twitter feed) is obviously a Trumper... and here is another example of his "wisdom":

"While everyone's busy mocking them Kanye will get prison reform and Kim will get criminal-justice reform and they will be the most politically effective power couple on earth at the moment"

Riiiiight!

In another tweet he says that RBG has already Politicized the SCOTUS.

"I can think of very few justices of the Supreme Court who have been more openly and vocally partisan than Ruth Ginsburg--maybe Stephen Field. She is undermining an important norm that most justices have respected, and she damages the Court"

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
30. Fuck that noise. I'm going to need proof Liberals have been trashing certain Democratic norms.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:52 AM
Oct 2018

Stinking pile of bullshit.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
33. Right? Avenatti is a private citizen.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 11:24 AM
Oct 2018

He's not an elected official. As long as the ABA Board of Ethics is fine with how he is representing his clients I don't see a problem.

At all.

While he's not my choice for President if he is the candidate I will vote for him.

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)
32. Avenatti lacks the wisdom to be a great statesman
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 11:11 AM
Oct 2018

He is ego driven. Nevertheless, he is a pugnacious fighter on the good side of the fight. I'm glad he's there.

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