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dalton99a

(81,570 posts)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 02:49 PM Oct 2018

Four California white supremacists arrested in connection with deadly Charlottesville rally

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charlottesville-charges-20181002-story.html
Members of California white supremacist group arrested in connection with deadly Charlottesville rally
By Associated Press
Oct 02, 2018 | 11:10 AM | Charlottesville, Va.

Four members of a militant white supremacist group from California have been arrested on charges they traveled to Virginia last year to incite a riot and attack counterprotesters at a white nationalist rally that turned deadly, court documents unsealed Tuesday say.

The defendants — Benjamin Drake Daley, Michael Paul Miselis, Thomas Walter Gillen and Cole Evan White — are part of the Rise Above Movement, which espouses anti-Semitic views and meets regularly in public parks to train in boxing and other fighting techniques, according to an affidavit.

The affidavit alleges that the four men were "among the most violent individuals present in Charlottesville" on Aug. 11 and 12 of last year. It says photos and video show they attacked counterprotesters, "which in some cases resulted in serious injuries."

The men have also taken part in "acts of violence" at political rallies in Huntington Beach, Berkeley and other places, the affidavit alleges.
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Four California white supremacists arrested in connection with deadly Charlottesville rally (Original Post) dalton99a Oct 2018 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Oct 2018 #1
"Economic anxieties" strike again Blue_Tires Oct 2018 #2
Well, you'd be economically anxious, too gratuitous Oct 2018 #22
Good Capperdan Oct 2018 #3
Excellent! Hope they have large non-white cellmates!! donkeypoofed Oct 2018 #4
That kind of crap is not useful (nt) lordbateman Oct 2018 #10
Clearly, I disagree but thanks for your opinion. Have a nice day. donkeypoofed Oct 2018 #21
good to hear northoftheborder Oct 2018 #5
Justice! Well, the beginning of it. nt Ilsa Oct 2018 #6
Orange County-based. MineralMan Oct 2018 #7
two of them barbtries Oct 2018 #17
Good. There are a lot of active hate groups in California, dammit. nt Hekate Oct 2018 #8
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2018 #9
Article at Right Wing Watch, their white supremacist cronies are throwing a hissy fit. Archae Oct 2018 #11
If these idiots love to fight so much why don't they join the military BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #12
As my career Army dad used to say Fritz Walter Oct 2018 #14
I wad thinking that they could get knocked into shape BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #15
thank you barbtries Oct 2018 #18
From Cali to Virginia. apnu Oct 2018 #13
Exactly. Lock them up. iluvtennis Oct 2018 #16
if you start enumerating barbtries Oct 2018 #19
Yup, "projection" is right. (nt) apnu Oct 2018 #24
Good. cp Oct 2018 #20
Good documentary Midnightwalk Oct 2018 #23

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. Well, you'd be economically anxious, too
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 04:53 PM
Oct 2018

If you had to travel all over the country being a racist and picking fights. Travel costs, air fare, lodging, meals, and stuff ain't cheap.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
21. Clearly, I disagree but thanks for your opinion. Have a nice day.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 04:52 PM
Oct 2018

And I hope you can find your sense of humor. Good luck with that.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
7. Orange County-based.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 03:07 PM
Oct 2018

I first though of Temecula in Riverside County, but then saw that the Rise Above Movement seems to be an Orange County phenomenon. There are a few YouTube videos. the one I looked at had a violence warning from YouTube. I didn't watch it.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
17. two of them
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 04:37 PM
Oct 2018

are from the same area where I grew up, the South Bay. I've lived in Redondo Beach and Lawndale both during my life though I was born and raised in Torrance, one of the most racist cities I know.

Orange County is next door to LA. If they hooked up over the internet that wouldn't be too far to meet up at all.

Archae

(46,345 posts)
11. Article at Right Wing Watch, their white supremacist cronies are throwing a hissy fit.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 03:21 PM
Oct 2018

"When are dem lib'rul Antifas gonna git busted too?"
"Wahhh!!!"


BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
12. If these idiots love to fight so much why don't they join the military
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 03:31 PM
Oct 2018

and get paid for it? Their testosterone driven angst could be trained and harnessed by people who can actually think and plan rationally and organize them into a fighting unit in combat.

Fritz Walter

(4,292 posts)
14. As my career Army dad used to say
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 03:45 PM
Oct 2018

They wouldn’t make a good pimple on a PFC’s butt!

They would not survive boot camp. And if their first-sergeant (or equivalent) were a person of color, they could not handle taking orders from her/him. Insubordination would be the reason for their swift and well-deserved dishonorable discharges.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
15. I wad thinking that they could get knocked into shape
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 03:49 PM
Oct 2018

but I can see your point too. They wouldn't be able to handle not being in charge and taking orders, especially from a group they love to hate. Too bad, they need to get their asses kicked and sense knocked into their heads.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
19. if you start enumerating
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 04:41 PM
Oct 2018

and getting pissed at the right wing's OUT OF CONTROL, BREATH-TAKING hypocrisy, you'll stroke out. it is that maddening. think "projection." for instance,

i read on twitter today that trump called Democrats "loco" several times in one speech. to calm my raging soul, i meditated "projection" for each occurrence. watching out for my blood pressure.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
23. Good documentary
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 05:03 PM
Oct 2018

See the PBS Fronline / ProPublica documentary Documenting Hate: Charlottesville from August. Very good but disturbing and covers the Rise Above Movement

[link:https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/documenting-hate-charlottesville/|

Edit: ProPublica spelling

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