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Bear Creek

(883 posts)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:47 PM Oct 2018

Never heard of this

My mother was put in a nursing home. She is 90 years old. The nursing home has lost her teeth. She likes coloring books and every time they are gone. Her clothes is missing. They have her checking account. They told the court she does not have any next of kin. They did not file so she lost her medicaid. Now they have a lawyer trying to be her guardian. A for profit business has no right being anyone's guardian. She gets 70 dollars for her pension and her social security check. They are concerned about the burial deeds. Grave robbers. I have file to be guardian but getting the money together this year has been a challenge. Just got my income tax refund back. Filed in April. Anyone else had this problem?
They served her the summons today. I went there after work and took my i pad recorded my conversation with her and asked her if she had anyone visit her today and the answer was no. She had wrote over the papers, circled the lawyers name,underlined it wrote bad. Can the serve papers to someone who can't remember or understand what is wriitten on them?

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Never heard of this (Original Post) Bear Creek Oct 2018 OP
yes. There are people who do this as a business. Look for elderly people to "guard". Demovictory9 Oct 2018 #1
Bear, I'd try to find an Elder Law Attorney in your area. Hoyt Oct 2018 #2
There might be an elder advocacy organization with a lawyer on staff catrose Oct 2018 #3
Look up a legal aid group in your area, one that works with poor people (trustworthy). Blue_true Oct 2018 #4
Report this to your local Area Agency on Aging. Below is the link that will find the local office: JoeOtterbein Oct 2018 #5
+1 DesertRat Oct 2018 #6
Thanks Bear Creek Oct 2018 #9
You are very welcome and JoeOtterbein Oct 2018 #10
Be sure to check for a state AAA. JoeOtterbein Oct 2018 #11
Call your ombudsmen. Every state has one. blueinredohio Oct 2018 #7
Thanks Bear Creek Oct 2018 #8
Thanks everyone Bear Creek Oct 2018 #12
How the Elderly Lose Their Rights (Guardians and custodians become the 'owners' of seniors and thei keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #13
This one is Bear Creek Oct 2018 #16
Can your nursing home 'own' you? keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #14
My thoughts also Bear Creek Oct 2018 #15
Also on top Bear Creek Oct 2018 #17

Demovictory9

(32,475 posts)
1. yes. There are people who do this as a business. Look for elderly people to "guard".
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:53 PM
Oct 2018

it was a big news story a few year ago in california. They look for elderly, on their own, with assets and file with a judge to become heir guardians. Then suck them dry.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Bear, I'd try to find an Elder Law Attorney in your area.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:56 PM
Oct 2018

You can probably find one who will at least talk to you initially without a fee. Attorneys specializing in Family Law can help too.

Let us know how it goes.

catrose

(5,073 posts)
3. There might be an elder advocacy organization with a lawyer on staff
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:58 PM
Oct 2018

In my area it's called Elder Care.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
4. Look up a legal aid group in your area, one that works with poor people (trustworthy).
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:02 PM
Oct 2018

Let them know up front that money is tight for you. They can likely find you a free attorney (pro bono) or one that will fight your case for a reasonable fee and allow you to pay in installments.

Good luck.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
7. Call your ombudsmen. Every state has one.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:28 PM
Oct 2018

the nursing home is supposed to have a paper hanging some where in public view with all the information on it. That's what these people are for.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
12. Thanks everyone
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:57 PM
Oct 2018

Beside myself to figure out what to do. I had talked to a lawyer that specialized in elder law earlier and said that with no estate and no life insurance that there wouldn't be a need. I went to another one filed just now got the money to finish paying him. Then this.

keithbvadu2

(36,937 posts)
13. How the Elderly Lose Their Rights (Guardians and custodians become the 'owners' of seniors and thei
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 12:40 AM
Oct 2018

How the Elderly Lose Their Rights

(Guardians and custodians become the 'owners' of seniors and their assets)

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/09/how-the-elderly-lose-their-rights

Guardians can sell the assets and control the lives of senior citizens without their consent—and reap a profit from it.

(One thing you can believe is that these slimy bast_rds are not trying to become guardians of poor people)
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“You can’t just walk into somebody’s home and take them!” Belshe told her.

Parks responded calmly, “It’s legal. It’s legal.”

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
16. This one is
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 05:19 AM
Oct 2018

She does not have anything. They want the burial plots where my Grandfather and my Granddaughter are buried.

keithbvadu2

(36,937 posts)
14. Can your nursing home 'own' you?
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 12:43 AM
Oct 2018

Can your nursing home 'own' you?

does anyone think that the nursing home is interested in the welfare of the patient or the welfare of the patient's money?

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But one day last summer, after he disputed nursing home bills that had suddenly doubled Mrs. Palermo’s copays, and complained about inexperienced employees who dropped his wife on the floor, Mr. Palermo was shocked to find a six-page legal document waiting on her bed.

It was a guardianship petition filed by the nursing home, Mary Manning Walsh, asking the court to give a stranger full legal power over Mrs. Palermo, now 90, and complete control of her money.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/26/nyregion/to-collect-debts-nursing-home-seizing-control-over-patients.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&_r=1

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
17. Also on top
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 05:26 AM
Oct 2018

It seems to be the republican way of they want to re coop money. That is the only thing they care about. That is their true god. The burial plots according to what I have seen on state of Ohio websites are supposed to be exempt.

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