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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you know what the worst part of this whole Trump saga is?
Finding out that the people you previously respected, and maybe even loved, are vile, horrible, insufferable assholes.
You know who I mean. Your friends and family.
Your friends and family who now feel emboldened to let their racist, misogynistic, xenophobic flags fly freely. The people who previously hid their true feelings. The people you thought were intelligent, and caring.
The people you thought you knew, but when actually, you never knew them at all.
There is a lot of them too.
ZZenith
(4,130 posts)Everyone I suspected of harboring fascist inclinations has outed themselves completely but, mercifully, they are few.
I cut bait with most of the assholes in my life quite awhile back, when they were all rah rah, GW!
Decent people are so much easier to deal with. One of the few advantages of adulting- getting to choose our friends.
Demovictory9
(32,475 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,697 posts)My brother was and probably still is a Trumper. It created a bit of drama between us that nearly broke us apart. Fortunately, we both chose humility and forgiveness and I would say we are even closer.
After dealing with the particular exchange that created the drama in the first place, we both decided we don't discuss politics. We discuss family matters and fond remembrances from over 70 years as siblings. We didn't sweep it under the rug, we simply decided our family relationship is far more important than the temp du jour holding office.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I am very disappointed in my soon-to-be 76 year old aunt, who voted for Obama twice but found new older female friends who taught her to prioritize fear and bigotry
Rhiannon12866
(206,157 posts)And I didn't hesitate to bring up my disgust with what's happening with Trump - I just knew that they'd agree with me - and several aren't even American.
imanamerican63
(13,818 posts)It's a struggle to have a conversation without it turning political. My mother & I hold our tongues until they leave or hang up.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)eroded the decency that used to exist in the USA. He is a vile person. He gloats about how wealthy, smart and knowledgeable he is when in fact he is none of those things. Just seeing his face in magazines and articles literally makes me sick. The worst the gop had to offer, and they stand with him through all his disgusting appearances and "press briefings" He is a disgrace to the human race, with a family just as corrupt. The gop should rot in HELL for the damage they have helped inflict on this country. God help us if we do not get democratic, sane politicians into office this November. If Kavenaugh makes it onto the SC, that will be the final nail in the coffin of what once was a great nation.
rainy
(6,095 posts)that Im friends with on Facebook. Almost every one of them supports Trump plus one of my sisters and her husband. Then at work there are many that I have to not share my political views with.
erronis
(15,358 posts)into our discussions, as well as a path to personal information hijacking.
Still, I understand people's need to keep up with friends/family. A couple of my daughters only use fb altho I won't.
DFW
(54,445 posts)Thank my lucky stars. My wife is European, so obviously the same there. My brother's wife is from Japan, so same with her.
I have one cousin in the Memphis area whom I haven't seen in 24 years, when we were both 42. Last I heard, he loved Cheneybush. He was on his third (I think?) wife, but that was 15 years ago, so he may be on number 4 or 5 by now. He was still going nowhere fast at age 50, so I have to assume he looks up to Trump as a role model.
At least my mom's side of the family are all liberals including both of my brothers so we get along fine. Can't say the same for my dad's side of the family.
DFW
(54,445 posts)It is a photo of FDR, with a note made out in his hand, "To (my dad's father) from his friend, Franklin Roosevelt."
For me, DEFINITELY both sides of the family!
MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)I have a picture of FDR right as you walk into my house. Its a treasure from a flea market. Reminds me of who I am every day.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)But,
"There is a lot of them too."
IS a lot of them...fix please...
LuckyCharms
(17,460 posts)I am placing emphasis on the GROUP of Trump supporters as a whole, rather than on the individual, countable members of the group. Therefore, IS would be correct in that case. The word lot is sometimes viewed as a singular item, such as "one lot of widgets".
But I know where you are coming from...an argument can be made for either "are" or "is".
To be clearer, I probably should have typed "There are many of them".
erronis
(15,358 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,503 posts)It's true.
Every single day I feel like I'm mourning the loss (of respect) I have for a number of people.
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)Very differently than me.
But, yes, their continued support of Trump has been hugely disappointing.
Most only care about the size of the stock market. Greed rules their lives.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)After my wife threw them out of the house August, she has yet to speak to them. We normally visit for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Dont think it happens this year.
Vinca
(50,312 posts)What the hell has happened to this country? I'm afraid if there was another 9/11-type attack the first response would be to round up Muslims and execute them. The hate is palpable.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,595 posts)trc
(823 posts)Cause now I see them for who they are deep down. Folks I know that have come out as trumpers have done me a huge favor, I can see them now as they really are and can let them slip away from my life without concern. I SEE you you asshole for who you are...goodbye, don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.
AwakeAtLast
(14,134 posts)Sadly.
coeur_de_lion
(3,684 posts)Two of my sisters. My brother. My brother-in-law. My favorite cousin.
Many of my co-workers.
It just fucking hurts that they are all assholes.
GoCubsGo
(32,095 posts)They never tried to hide their racism, misogyny and xenophobia. Fortunately, I don't have to deal with many of them. Most of the people I surround myself with are decent people, who hate that ratbastard with the white hot heat of a thousand suns.
Separation
(1,975 posts)That includes the majority of what I considered my close personal friends and acquaintances. I never gave them an ultimatum or anything of the such, because that would be ridiculous of me. What I did try to do, however, is I laid all of my opinions out there for them to judge. Which I might add, that laying yourself out to get judged by former peer and supervisors to your personal beliefs can be a bit daunting.
I was accused of being brainwashed by socialists, of being a "Hillary Lover". I didn't bother to tell them that a military, is a form of socialism, nor was the healthcare that the received from the government. I also didn't bother telling them that they probably were brainwashed, or at the minimum, in an information bubble of their own that closed out any competing ideas. I basically just took the hit and moved on with my life.
It was a pretty big wall of reality that I smacked headlong into. However, I can no longer acquaint myself or surround myself with people who have the direct opposite of my core beliefs, and more importantly, who are willing to remain ignorant about the topics at hand.
Initech
(100,107 posts)Ohiogal
(32,101 posts)My father used all those racial and ethnic slurs that Archie Bunker did
The rest of my family still is bigoted and conservative, but the only one I am close to is my only sister. We are the last two left of our family, and I just can't write her off. I know she's a Republican and she knows I'm a liberal, but we just don't talk politics. We have other things in common (love of dogs, rock music, cooking, and baseball) so we stick to those subjects. I suppose my family wonders how in the world I ever turned out to be a liberal with my upbringing! I sometimes wonder, myself!
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)None of my friends and family have ever supported Trump or voted for him.
I know thats pretty rare out there, but there it is.
It must really suck for others who have to go through this nonsense. The only advice that I have is to just make a clean break and let them go, if they turn out to be members of Trumps cult.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,592 posts)and it's far worse than I ever thought it would be. Some I will attribute to the incessent blaring of anti- everything Faux news, some well, that's just the way they are I guess. Not deep thinkers, seeking simple solutions to complex problems, prejudicial and ignorant. It's sad............