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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:45 PM Oct 2018

This is a test of the emergency broadcast system. This is only a test.

We've got that warning on antenna television and over the air radio for as long as I can remember.

Today's test was an update to that system to take advantage of advances in technology that ensure that most people can receive the warning. We all have phones now (except for a few). It's the easiest way to get a warning to the most people.

Breathe and return to your regularly scheduled gnashing of teeth and rending of garments.

Thank you.

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This is a test of the emergency broadcast system. This is only a test. (Original Post) NightWatcher Oct 2018 OP
Yup, we really have better things to rend and gnash over. nt LAS14 Oct 2018 #1
The contempt people have for this process, which has been around since the 1930s, is weird to me. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #2
I wonder how many people that freaked about trump sending a message follow him on twitter already. NightWatcher Oct 2018 #4
Yes. BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #3
If it hadn't been labeled a "presidential" alert it wouldn't be given a second thought. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #5
NO. BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #7
Those categories are just fine. blugbox Oct 2018 #8
My mother was 11 years old when Pearl Harbor was attacked BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #10
Because only the President can give final authorization for FEMA to send a national alert onenote Oct 2018 #16
I can't read all those screens clearly but I don't see where The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #11
All of the "drop down" categories are not on the screen caps BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #14
On my TV it seemed identical to the EAS alerts we have received for years wishstar Oct 2018 #6
Exactly. THAT is all it is. BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #9
So, I see the need for an alert system like this. Calista241 Oct 2018 #12
Yep. It's so pre WWII dictator-y n/t leftstreet Oct 2018 #13
Basically taken from an amendment to the Communications Act of 1934 BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #15
It's called a presidential alert because only the president can authorize a nationwide alert onenote Oct 2018 #17
Test 1: Fake news! Test 2: Rigged witch hunt! Initech Oct 2018 #18
It's still fun to use it as a mechanism to troll Trump. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #19
This is only a test... backscatter712 Oct 2018 #20

BumRushDaShow

(129,560 posts)
3. Yes.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:49 PM
Oct 2018

They changed the name of it to the "Emergency Alert System" in 1997... as part of updates that would include the new tech to come... like cells.

I still miss the old EBS though.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
5. If it hadn't been labeled a "presidential" alert it wouldn't be given a second thought.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:53 PM
Oct 2018

Spanky probably told FEMA to call it that to make it seem more important, but the result was widespread outrage and the donning of tinfoil hats over something that was just a legally mandated test of an upgrade of an existing system. Can we all just go back to drunk, rapey Supreme Court nominees now?




BumRushDaShow

(129,560 posts)
7. NO.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:56 PM
Oct 2018

That is the "category" of alert that is literally designed into the "computer system" that handles the alerts. Drumpf had nothing to do with it.

Other alerts include weather ones, earthquake ones, missile ones (like we saw happen in Hawai'i)... plus the severe weather ones like those for tornadoes and of course the Amber Alerts.

Edit to include what all is involved (I have posted this elsewhere)-













The disastrous false alarm issued by Hawaii over the weekend has raised concerns about what safeguards the state had in place. The state-wide alert, which told people a ballistic missile was about to hit, terrified residents and visitors, as the state scrambled for 38 minutes to issue a correction.

Officials soon released a timeline of events, saying the state’s software contained a menu option that allowed a live alert to be sent in place of a test, a problem that several people quickly categorized as a design failure. The state released an image that showed a list with options for test and live alerts next to each other. Officials later said the image did not accurately portray the system, and released what it characterized as a “representation” of the system, but said that it could not share an actual screenshot.

While the state has not named its software provider, evidence suggests it is an Idaho-based company called AlertSense, a FEMA-approved company that says it works with clients in states around the country. The audio version of the alert broadcast in Hawaii was posted on the company’s website. The first image released by Hawaii also appears similar to example software provided to The Verge by AlertSense. For instance, the word “templates” appears above the alert options in AlertSense’s software, and is barely visible in the first image issued by the state. (A local TV station in Hawaii independently came to the same conclusion.) The Verge’s review of the program suggests that functionally there is only a one-click difference between sending a test and a live alert.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/18/16905512/hawaii-missile-software-false-alarm-emergency-alert

blugbox

(951 posts)
8. Those categories are just fine.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:02 PM
Oct 2018

They explain the nature of the alert immediately.

So why does there need to be a "Presidential" alert category? What emergency would he inform us about that doesn't already have it's own category? I think that's the main issue people are having with it.

Alert systems are very good, and categories help a ton, just for the record.

BumRushDaShow

(129,560 posts)
10. My mother was 11 years old when Pearl Harbor was attacked
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:06 PM
Oct 2018

The President of the United States (Roosevelt) commanded the (limited) airwaves - i.e., the radio because that's all there was - with the message about this attack. She said everyone was sitting in front of it when his emergency address happened.

THAT is the purpose behind the "Presidential Alert" category. Theoretically, Shrub could have used it on 9/11 but obviously all the TV stations were already broadcasting it. Meaning it should not and will hopefully not be used casually.

onenote

(42,769 posts)
16. Because only the President can give final authorization for FEMA to send a national alert
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:41 PM
Oct 2018

y'know, the buck stops here and all that.

BumRushDaShow

(129,560 posts)
14. All of the "drop down" categories are not on the screen caps
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:22 PM
Oct 2018

As I understand it, the system is designed with hierarchical security access meaning that the people (techs or whoever) who will be entering and sending these messages will be using accounts that have different levels of functionality, so their screens will have different options depending on their account's purview and security level.

So for example, the people who send alerts out for a "Tornado Warning" at the NWS are NOT able to send out an "Amber Alert" as that function would be handled by a state/local authority and not the NWS.

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
6. On my TV it seemed identical to the EAS alerts we have received for years
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:54 PM
Oct 2018

I have Spectrum cable and get the EAS alerts when there is a real warning message and when it is just a test. There was a man's voice reciting the message but it was not Trump's voice. We had our cellphones turned off, so don't know about those alerts but my understanding is that the point of this EAS alert was getting the message out on mobile devices, not just TV..

BumRushDaShow

(129,560 posts)
9. Exactly. THAT is all it is.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:02 PM
Oct 2018

The difference being instead of just being sent to your locality where each broadcast station is required by the FCC to test at least once a month, this special category of message went out EVERYWHERE across the country, on all (participating) types of media.

This is the first time that this has been done. I don't think such a simultaneous nationwide test had ever been done before with the old EBS system.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
12. So, I see the need for an alert system like this.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:17 PM
Oct 2018

But why did they have to call it a "Presidential Alert"? That just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

BumRushDaShow

(129,560 posts)
15. Basically taken from an amendment to the Communications Act of 1934
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:39 PM
Oct 2018
The EAS is a national public warning system that provides the President with the communications capability to address the nation during a national emergency. The test is made available to EAS participants (i.e., radio and television broadcasters, cable systems, satellite radio and television providers, and wireline video providers) and is scheduled to last approximately one minute. The test message will be similar to regular monthly EAS test messages with which the public is familiar. The EAS message will include a reference to the WEA test:

“THIS IS A TEST of the National Emergency Alert System. This system was developed by broadcast and cable operators in voluntary cooperation with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Federal Communications Commission, and local authorities to keep you informed in the event of an emergency. If this had been an actual emergency an official message would have followed the tone alert you heard at the start of this message. A similar wireless emergency alert test message has been sent to all cell phones nationwide. Some cell phones will receive the message; others will not. No action is required.”

The EAS is based upon the War Powers Act provision of the Communications Act of 1934, which provides for Presidential access to commercial communications during “a state of public peril or disaster or other national emergency.” For WEA, the Warning, Alert, and Response Network (WARN) Act of 2006 provides that subscribers may opt out of receiving any wireless alerts “other than an alert issued by the President,” and that wireless alerting service should allow wireless subscribers the capability of opting out of receiving WEA alerts, other than an alert issued at the direction of the President and/or his/her designee.

https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test


What is sad is that we have an abuser-in-chief occupying a position of "trust" who has absolutely ZERO of it.

The WARN Act of 2006 happened under Shrub and the systems were put into place under Obama. Unfortunately it was all finally ready to go after some earlier tests had uncovered issues that were corrected, under the thing in the WH.

onenote

(42,769 posts)
17. It's called a presidential alert because only the president can authorize a nationwide alert
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 03:43 PM
Oct 2018

which makes sense if you stop and think about it.

Initech

(100,105 posts)
18. Test 1: Fake news! Test 2: Rigged witch hunt!
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 04:14 PM
Oct 2018

Test 3: Democrats mistreated Kavanaugh and privileged white men! Sad!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
19. It's still fun to use it as a mechanism to troll Trump.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 04:19 PM
Oct 2018

Sure it's standard stuff... but it's still fun to use it as a mechanism to troll Trump.

And that's not half as fun as reading the self-righteous responses taking all this ever-so-seriously, and calmly explaining to us that "TRUMP'S NOT SENDING YOU A MESSAGE. STOP MAKING US LOOK STUPID!!!!" nonsense.

Meta-trolling for those holding the diaphanous pretense of cleverness and the attractive, though thin veneer of rationality.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
20. This is only a test...
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 04:20 PM
Oct 2018

... If this had been an actual emergency, you would have just enough time to get to your nearest likely Ground Zero to make shadow puppets with your Hiroshima Shadow.

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