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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:22 PM Oct 2018

Does anyone know where this came from? One of most important insights..

... from this horrible week.

In a he-said she-said criminal trial, it is not necessary to produce other evidence. The jury can make its decision on believability.

Whatever the source, at the time I found it credible. Is this true? Does anyone know where I might have seen it?

tia
las

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Does anyone know where this came from? One of most important insights.. (Original Post) LAS14 Oct 2018 OP
Don't know where you found it, but it's absolutely true. Nevilledog Oct 2018 #1
I read this article yesterday canetoad Oct 2018 #2
Maybe a jury instruction? cachukis Oct 2018 #3
It was like that. Something about how a trial works. nt LAS14 Oct 2018 #4
Yes. Juries are instructed on the believability of witnesses MaryMagdaline Oct 2018 #5
i suggest you don't buy in to applying criminal trial standards to a job interview 0rganism Oct 2018 #6
True, true. As one post, or something... LAS14 Oct 2018 #7
And if you want someone in your image and likeness... cachukis Oct 2018 #9
If a jury believes the witness' testimony is strong enough The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #8

Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
1. Don't know where you found it, but it's absolutely true.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:27 PM
Oct 2018

Many trials consist solely of witnesses relaying their recollection of an event. Having other witnesses or pieces of evidence may bolster one side over the other, but juries are often faced with basing their verdicts on who they believe.

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
5. Yes. Juries are instructed on the believability of witnesses
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:36 PM
Oct 2018

In Florida they are instructed that they can consider the demeanor if the witness, the frankness, the intelligence, any interest the witness has in the outcome of a case. If you are prosecutor or plaintiff you don’t like to have JUST word vs word because you have the burden of proof. But word vs word is sufficient, legally, to get to a jury.

0rganism

(23,954 posts)
6. i suggest you don't buy in to applying criminal trial standards to a job interview
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:43 PM
Oct 2018

as that feeds the right wing narrative

Mr. Kavanaugh is not entitled to some "due process" that requires proof beyond reasonable doubt for conviction. he is not on trial at this time, although perhaps he ought to be.

the senate's process amounts to a job interview for one of the uppermost positions in American jurisprudence. We The People are his prospective employers. he is not entitled to the position any more than you or i when we apply for employment or, as with Kavanaugh, promotion.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
7. True, true. As one post, or something...
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:47 PM
Oct 2018

... maybe a cartoon, that showed someone interviewing Kavanaugh and then saying, "Sorry, Mr. Kavanaugh, we won't be able to hire you for this Arby's job."

But I'd still like to know the source of the information about the importance of believability.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,705 posts)
8. If a jury believes the witness' testimony is strong enough
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:51 PM
Oct 2018

that it constitutes proof beyond a reasonable doubt. As a practical matter it probably won't because these days juries are influenced by the "CSI Effect," meaning that they expect DNA and other trace evidence.

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