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If Kavanaugh were disbarred, could he serve on the supreme court???? nt (Original Post) LAS14 Oct 2018 OP
You don't have to be a lawyer to serve on the court n/t jaysunb Oct 2018 #1
Yes. Not all SCOTUS have been lawyers though in recent history they have hlthe2b Oct 2018 #2
Yes, if there are enough corrupt politicians in office to prevent an impeachment Snake Plissken Oct 2018 #3
Theoretically, yes. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #4
yes and he'd be even more angry Demovictory9 Oct 2018 #5
No. marble falls Oct 2018 #6
What is your evidence, in light of posts 1-5? nt LAS14 Oct 2018 #7
Has there ever been a disbarred attorney sent to the Surpreme Court ... marble falls Oct 2018 #8
They seem to think that it's possible... LAS14 Oct 2018 #9
A state bar authority is not going to have veto power over who can be a federal judge jberryhill Oct 2018 #12
The question isn't asking if it ever happened before tritsofme Oct 2018 #13
Take a gander at the Constitution. WillowTree Oct 2018 #14
Actually it's Yes...very unlikely but it's absolutely a possibility and.. AncientGeezer Oct 2018 #10
Very unlikely but theoretically, yes since the Constitution doesn't state... WePurrsevere Oct 2018 #11
I think the more interesting question is whether a federal judge can be disbarred. TomSlick Oct 2018 #15
You're answering a different question than you asked. Ms. Toad Oct 2018 #16
I'm clear a federal judge cannot be removed by disbarment by a state. TomSlick Oct 2018 #17
There are no federalism questions involved at all, nor is it complex. Ms. Toad Oct 2018 #18
I suspect the federal judges before whom I practice would not be so prosaic in their approach TomSlick Oct 2018 #19
Feel free to ask them. Ms. Toad Oct 2018 #20
From what I understand Separation Oct 2018 #21

hlthe2b

(102,282 posts)
2. Yes. Not all SCOTUS have been lawyers though in recent history they have
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:31 PM
Oct 2018

Associate Justice James F. Byrnes, whose short tenure lasted from June 1941 to October 1942, was the last Justice without a law degree to be appointed; Stanley Forman Reed, who served on the Court from 1938 to 1957, was the last sitting Justice from such a background.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_schools_attended_by_United_States_Supreme_Court_Justices

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,707 posts)
4. Theoretically, yes.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:35 PM
Oct 2018

You don't need a law license to be a judge. You don't even have to ever have been a lawyer to be on the Supreme Court.

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
8. Has there ever been a disbarred attorney sent to the Surpreme Court ...
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:47 PM
Oct 2018

has there ever been a nominee sent to the SC in the middle of disbarment proceedings?

I can't find any. Can you?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. A state bar authority is not going to have veto power over who can be a federal judge
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:57 PM
Oct 2018

The qualifications to be on the Supreme Court are:

1. Nominated by the President, and
2. Consented to by the Senate.

So, no, the Supreme Court of (any state), which is usually the principal attorney licensing authority does not get to essentially say, “No, that person can’t be a federal judge.”

If a person has met 1 and 2 above, they may be removed from office by impeachment and, again, the state of (fill in the blank) doesn’t get to pull someone off the federal bench.

tritsofme

(17,378 posts)
13. The question isn't asking if it ever happened before
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:57 PM
Oct 2018

But if he “could” serve on the court.

The answer is yes, the Constitution does not list bar membership as an eligibility requirement for Supreme Court justices, as others have pointed out, being a lawyer is not a requirement either.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
14. Take a gander at the Constitution.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:23 PM
Oct 2018

Practically anyone could, theoretically be a Supreme Court Justice as there are no constitutional requirements. Really. None. Not a legal background or age or even US citizenship.

Honest. It's in there. Or, actually, it isn't in there. You can look it up!

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
11. Very unlikely but theoretically, yes since the Constitution doesn't state...
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:54 PM
Oct 2018

Any requirements that a SCOTUS justice must have.

I looked it up to be sure and found this...

https://www.history.com/news/7-things-you-might-not-know-about-the-u-s-supreme-court

3. There are no official qualifications for becoming a Supreme Court justice.
The Constitution spells out age, citizenship and residency requirements for becoming president of the United States or a member of Congress but mentions no rules for joining the nation’s highest court.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
15. I think the more interesting question is whether a federal judge can be disbarred.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:45 PM
Oct 2018

I see real federalism questions with a state supreme court (or unified bar) having the power to disbar a federal judge. I sincerely doubt a state supreme court could cause a federal judge to be removed by disbarment. The only way to remove a federal judge, at any level, is by impeachment.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
16. You're answering a different question than you asked.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:54 PM
Oct 2018

Can a federal judge be disbarred - yes. Just as any attorney can (assuming he had a law license to start with).

You answered: can a state supreme court remove a federal judge by disbarrment - no. While the state supreme court can disbar a judge, disbarrment has nothing to do with service as a federal judge. Removal of a federal judge is not under the control of a state supreme court.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
17. I'm clear a federal judge cannot be removed by disbarment by a state.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:23 PM
Oct 2018

I seriously question that a state court or bar can disbar a federal judge. There are nasty federalism questions raised. If a state supreme court disbarred a federal judge, could the federal judge find the state supreme court in contempt - and send the US Marshal out to take them into custody?

This is all just too ugly and complex to consider. I simply cannot imagine any state moving to disbar a federal judge.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
18. There are no federalism questions involved at all, nor is it complex.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:46 PM
Oct 2018

The right to serve as a federal judge has absolutely nothing to do with the right to practice law.

The license to practice law is a STATE license, pure and simple - each state decides its own rules, and enforces them as it sees fit.

There is no more a federalism question when a federal judge's license to practice law is revoed than there would be if the state revoked the federal judge's license to drive a car. Both are purely state licensing matters.

If the federal government somehow reads the constitution to imply a licensing requirement (Hint:
federal judges do NOT have to be licensed to practice law), it would be up to a federal entity to respond to the fact that the judge no longer has a license. It could do as it chose as to the fact of the judge's disbarrment.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
19. I suspect the federal judges before whom I practice would not be so prosaic in their approach
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:21 PM
Oct 2018

if the State Supreme Court attempted to disbar them. It is clear that the State Supreme Court cannot remove a federal judge. The federalism question comes in whether the State Supreme Court can even consider disbarring a federal judge - even if it could only embarrass the judge.

I can imagine a federal judge considering the very attempt at disbarment proceedings to be contempt.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
20. Feel free to ask them.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:58 AM
Oct 2018

I'm confident that they understand that state licensing is purely a state matter.

The state is under no obligation to allow incompetent or unethical attorneys to retain the ablity to practice law within the state merely because they are employed by the federal government - evem when they are serving as a judge.

Revoking a federal judge's right to practice law within the state does not remove them from the federal bench - the only means to do that would be impeachment. That is a federal matter over which the state has no control.

They are two independent actions.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
21. From what I understand
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 03:24 AM
Oct 2018

The only one who can disbar a Federal Judge is another Federal Judge or Federal Court.

AFTER EDIT: Im totally wrong on this, disregard. Disbarring is a completely different topic than impeachment.

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