I am sick of media types using the term tribalism in describing party views.

[gordianot]

When Democratic position change to the point they do not represent my values I will no longer be a Democrat. I choose whom I vote for, not because they are a (D) in a description. My utter disdain of Republicans has nothing to with party affiliation. The divide between Democrats and Republicans is not tribalism.

[democratisphere]

1. Do you mean you are not doing your war dance in preparation for

tomorrow and Friday. I've been sticking pins into my bitchy mitch voodoo doll all day.

[bdamomma]

24. hey where did

get your voodoo mitch doll, I will try anything to get this horrible man gone. He is totally forgetting who he works for.

[democratisphere]

25. Etsy has a bunch.

Etsy link below:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/593217563/mitch-mcconnell-voodoo-doll

[Voices Of Reason]

2. Everything is Tribal

I believe we are all tribal to an extent. We all have our little groups or cliques. Football fans are tribal for their team for example. Tribalism has been around since time immemorial.

[gopiscrap]

27. welcome to DU

[ProudLib72]

3. You have a point, and it's something I've been thinking about recently

Perhaps the deplorables want us to adopt tribal politics. The more I review the last two years, the more I believe this to be the case. If true, then it is a dangerous road to go down.

[lunatica]

4. When one side is dead wrong it isn't tribalism

It’s ridiculous to say that being a liberal minded person who accepts and embraces all races, ethnic cultures and sexual preferences is practicing tribalism. Tribalism is the rejection of everything and everybody who is not like you. Some people just can’t help labeling things no matter how wrong they are.

[appalachiablue]

9. Good description and what it means to me as well.

[uponit7771]

17. +1, taking children from helpless parents by the thousands isn't tribalism

[kcr]

5. So do I. That pseudo-intellectual garbage is beyond irritating.

They want to believe they're somehow above it all and neutral.

[uponit7771]

18. +1, no one should be neutral on taking children from helpless parents by the thousands

[brush]

6. To racist whites of course it is. They vote only for people who think and look like them.

[appalachiablue]

7. They've overdone it, beat it to death. It's become a lazy

shortcut way of referring to complex conflicts and issues. Too close to the "both sides do it" false equivalency as well.

[gordianot]

8. Exactly

[roamer65]

10. They use that stupid term tribalism to avoid what the phenomena really is called.

BALKANIZATION.

Using the correct word to describe it scares the living shit outta people and it should.

It immediately invokes very warranted worries of similarity to Yugoslavia and Rwanda.

[Wellstone ruled]

11. Seems to me,

the phrase Tribalism was first used by ex McCain Campaign Guy Micheal Schmidt some time early 2017 when he got his Gig on MSNBC.

And now we heard it at least once daily.

[LenaBaby61]

12. I am sick of media types using the term tribalism in describing party views.

You think its infuriating now, just wait until a Dem gains the presidency again, The mostly corporate media will be all over the Dem like stink all over shit. Yeah, the mostly same corporate media who brings up tribalism, false equivalence will say that Dems should reach out to thuglicans, work together for the good of the country. Reach across the isle. Yeah, to get their hands chopped off at the wrists

How in HELL are Dems going to work with thuglicans when those deficit-busting tax cuts for the rich that thuglicans passed come DUE and we have LITTLE to NO money to work with starting in 2020 and gets worse by 2025? Interests rates are ticking upwards and the good economy Pres. Obama left to thuglicans will start to sputter significantly. Dems better start NOW telling the American people just what a fucked up state financially we'll gradually be in because of those tax cuts for the rich that all of the thuglicans voted for. thuglicans are rotten, viscous, treasonous, greedy and they lie like rugs amongst other things, but those asses KNOW how to frame a narrative and stay on message. They KNOW how to blame Dems for something that's their fault and sadly, Dems don't do the job they should be in putting the blame for a bad economy--when it starts--on thuglicans/tRump. Pres. Obama for all the good that he did and especially with Obamacare, and with NO help from thuglicans, he never really told folks what he was up against with a thuglican Senate & Congress who STILL to this day have NO replacement for Obamacare. They just want folks to have little to no health care or junk health care plans: tRumpcare. I'm not even mentioning the essentials or pre-existing thuglicans don't care about. thuglicans framed the narrative on health care which is why Obamacare was so misunderstood & unpopular. Now the tax cuts for the rich are less popular than Obamacare, which IS making it's way upwards in the most recent polling I've seen:

Fox News poll: Voters like Obamacare more than GOP tax cuts.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/08/23/fox-news-poll-obamacare-gop-tax-cuts/1074570002/

I hate using a Fox Poll but .... this tells you all you need to know about those tax cuts for the rich vs Obamacare if they're rated the way they are in a Fox Poll.

Well, soon this Kavanaugh/McConnell/tRumptun/thuglican ram through of Johnny Walker Red will be over soon more than likely with Johnny placed on the High Court, and Dems will have to pivot to the Mid-Terms. Rev it up and give people a reason other than Johnny/Mitch/tRump to put THEM in control of Congress as a check/balance of Shell-Company-In-Chief. Go after thuglicans like their/our lives/democracy depended on it, and it DOES this time. I live in the USA not the USSA.

[gordianot]

13. Truly excellent epic rant.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

14. I will not 'work together' to ...

"I will not 'work together' to..."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211143812

[rampartc]

15. even the 2008 global economuc collapse,

the inevitable result of "conservative" econonic policy and deregulation, is blamed on obama and the "libruls."

[Separation]

16. Social media and the internet in general

Eventually leads people into what is called, information bubbles. These information bubbles then can and do lead to tribalism. It's the reason why recruiting disenchanted youth into terrorism has been such a problem.

Now, whether or not YOU feel you aren't in one of these information bubbles which can lead to tribalism, is a different story. You and I can say without a doubt, say that if there ever was a Democratic doppelganger of Trump we could both call out, and say, "No, you do not represent me!"

However, just as in the 1930's Germany, and today in American Republican politics. When your party has been hijacked by something evil, and the majority let the leadership direct the new brand of Republicans. You can easily see how tribalism forms, and the repercussions if not dealt with in a firm and swift manner.

[uponit7771]

19. Both sides would have to be an information bubble for that to happen though. It's not

. . Tribalism when one side disconnects themselves from reality.

there's no way that anyone is going to convince me to taking children from helpless parents by the thousands is a tribal policy View

[Separation]

20. So are you saying

That those who condone this, and there are plenty who do. That they don't have a disconnect from reality?

I'm trying to understand, so forgive my question.

[uponit7771]

21. They do have a disconnect from reality. Not only do they condone it they defend it ...

... because there are disconnect from reality starts with a bold-faced lied that the people who are coming in to the US are all doing such illegally

[Separation]

22. So in affect

The Republicans are at least falling into this "Tribalism" whereas a person like you or I (hopefully the democratic party as a whole as well) would not.

Correct?

[uponit7771]

23. Correct, GOP tribalism starts with their disconnect so the media's portrayal of both-sides is lazy

... at best.

Their unwillingness to call out GOP level of lies is what hurts the discourse

Not isolating outlets like FAUX News and Alex Jones and Breightbart also hurts discourse even worse

[Separation]

26. Absolutely!

I dont have any issues comparing what's going on now in regards to the silence of the Republican party, and what happened to Germany in the 1930's.

We arent there yet, but just like in Nazi Germany, they werent marching Gypsy, Jews, and others into concentration camps at first either.

Tribalism at it's worse.