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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:29 AM Oct 2018

I still demand to know why the hell

A victim of sexual assault was allowed to be interrogated by a prosecutor like she is the one on trial and then basically called a liar by one in an official report while the perp gets favorable speeches and indignant defenses by his bro’s.

Anyone fucking wonder why women don’t tell.

Wake the fuck up America!!

This is so backwards and infuriating. But no one seems to fucking care.

What the hell else is new????

NOTHING, absolutely, NOTHING!!

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I still demand to know why the hell (Original Post) boston bean Oct 2018 OP
I am almost as depressed as I was after the election right now. They get away with all of it... LexVegas Oct 2018 #1
I'm right there with you. Laurian Oct 2018 #2
They won't get away with it. irresistable Oct 2018 #3
Oh, yes they will. "They" already have. pangaia Oct 2018 #12
not yet irresistable Oct 2018 #15
They've been getting by with for the duration of history on Earth. Texin Oct 2018 #37
I worry about Republican's end game, at this point it almost seems yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #7
My fear too. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2018 #9
You are exactly right, Yui. pangaia Oct 2018 #14
Their end game is one-party rule... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #20
A women is attacked and sexually abused when they are vulnerable. olegramps Oct 2018 #13
In fact, it is not even convincing them. They do not care. You want a woman? well after all, pangaia Oct 2018 #17
Don't give up. That's their plan...to absolutely flat-line us all who have Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #22
Anger, not depression!!! Johnny2X2X Oct 2018 #27
Yes, hopefully 2016 taught us a thing or two. n/t libdem4life Oct 2018 #36
This is an exercise of raw political power of the majority bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #4
The last thing we need to do is get depressed. watoos Oct 2018 #5
Great energizing speech! Silver Gaia Oct 2018 #6
Not Ready To Make Nice - The Dixie Chicks JTOL Oct 2018 #8
I think the Democrats should have had a prosecutor interrogate Kavanaugh oberliner Oct 2018 #10
I agree 100 % oberliner! Little Star Oct 2018 #19
We still seem to be in the Dark Ages on this subject. ginnyinWI Oct 2018 #11
"I still demand to know why the hell" Nitram Oct 2018 #16
The other side doesn't wonder why women don't tell IronLionZion Oct 2018 #18
Republicans framed and are framing a job interview as a criminal trial and we all bit. Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #21
I think we can all agree that a prosecutor doesn't question a victim like they would cross examine a boston bean Oct 2018 #23
Of course, Boston, but the purpose was to turn a hearing into a courtroom. One with massive bias. Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #24
Ya think???? boston bean Oct 2018 #25
Yes. I think. Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #29
Good. i do too. boston bean Oct 2018 #32
They got their marching orders from Trump. They were told SummerSnow Oct 2018 #26
Who would have thunk it?? boston bean Oct 2018 #33
He got the Good Ol' Boy treatment; she got the prosecutor. R B Garr Oct 2018 #28
Well, perhaps 2naSalit Oct 2018 #30
If every woman of reproductive age in the US isn't making quick plans Texin Oct 2018 #31
Has there ever been a sex strike by women? Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #34
Lysistrata SharonAnn Oct 2018 #35
well I was thinking of the modern era....:-) nt Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #38
Because republicans. trof Oct 2018 #39
To hell with all repugs, warmfeet Oct 2018 #40
Stolen power is ill-gotten gains. dchill Oct 2018 #41
you are wrong that no one cares. Look at all those protestors. THere is a huge MOVEMENT Amaryllis Oct 2018 #42
the women of this country orleans Oct 2018 #43
I agree. This is same ol', same ol'. Some things never change. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #44
The whole thing was rotten to the core. unitedwethrive Oct 2018 #45

LexVegas

(6,063 posts)
1. I am almost as depressed as I was after the election right now. They get away with all of it...
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:30 AM
Oct 2018

all the time.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
2. I'm right there with you.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:39 AM
Oct 2018

That this nasty political operative will be rewarded for his atrocious actions/behavior is beyond depressing.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
37. They've been getting by with for the duration of history on Earth.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:59 PM
Oct 2018

They institutionalized it. The edicts and beliefs that do so are found in religion. All of them.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
7. I worry about Republican's end game, at this point it almost seems
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:09 AM
Oct 2018

Like they want, what PUTIN wants, the destruction of what was once a great nation. If Trump gets his way and they put Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court, he might not only be Trump's get out of jail, card.. but even worse, allow him the pleasure of Being President for life, over what was once a Democracy, has become a dictatorship.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
14. You are exactly right, Yui.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:28 AM
Oct 2018

It has been pretty clear since before the election.. only become even more so while it happens.
A theocratic, fascist, authoritarian dictatorship.

But most of the 'frogs in the pot of increasingly hotter water' haven't figured it out yet. OR don;t care.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
13. A women is attacked and sexually abused when they are vulnerable.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:26 AM
Oct 2018

It would be rare that there would be collaboration as to a sexual attack. Its the women's word against the perpetrator. It has been only a relatively recent development in which in the case of rape that DNA evidence can substantiate the victim claims. Other wise good luck in convincing the good ole boys.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. In fact, it is not even convincing them. They do not care. You want a woman? well after all,
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:30 AM
Oct 2018

women are subservient to men, so..... go right ahead...

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
22. Don't give up. That's their plan...to absolutely flat-line us all who have
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:05 AM
Oct 2018

moral and correct feelings about life and America. NOW is not the time to let depression get to you. Take a week off...re-energize...and let's come home w a win. I'm sorry you feel low today. If you do, TV and the internet PROBABLY isn't where you are going to really get to feeling better. Gotta get PIONEER on those feelings. Go outside. Take a walk. Rake the yard. But GET AWAY from the electronics. Go see your Grandma. Do something other than get overwhelmed. We are going to be ok. Shut it off for awhile. Check in with counselors (if you have them) etc. They WANT us to flat-line....DON'T. Tomorrow we will see whether this weekend is going to be the beginning of the rest of our lives here in this country. We are 2 to 1. Don't forget it. Don't let tv and the internet tell you what your eyes and ears know is bullshit.
Get up. Stand up. Enjoy the reclamation of our country bc one day when we are at Thanksgiving Dinner w our grand kids etc...they will say THANK YOU for giving them their lives of opportunity back. The promise of America is partly that we hand a better nation to the next generation. Sometimes that's hard and involves work. Don't get sad...get mad...and let that turn into action.
LOYAL OPPOSITION isn't easy. We have no choice. Take care of yourself today. We all feel it. Just don't let it immobilize you. We are all here together Lex. You aren't alone.
PLEASE...Remember D-Day. They were terrified and sad too...when the gates dropped on the beaches and the soldiers of righteousness stormed the embankments to repel fascists from the European Continent. They did it though. Literally ran into machine gun fire for their family and friends and the Red, White, and Blue. (And I don't mean the russian flag.) Let's honor that bravery if nothing else.
When we get this ship turned around, we should encourage tv stations, like the "History Channel", to stop w the Nazi glorification and hitler worship by having endless shows on the germans in WW2. It's been going on for at least 20 years. At some point, ignorant minds see themselves in the shows and think that the nazis we just 'mizunderstood'. We are going to be the next generation to fight the battle for America...right here at home. Cheer up! I hear you. Sending love and support.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
27. Anger, not depression!!!
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:22 AM
Oct 2018

Use this, work hard for November, vote these monsters out. Rally around this issue.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
4. This is an exercise of raw political power of the majority
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:55 AM
Oct 2018

that violates all norms and fairness and covers up the truth.

This is a rift just like election 2016 was a rift, just like Merrick Garland's escapade was a rift, just like election 2000 was a rift. The Republicans are stealing power at every opportunity.

This Supreme Court seat won't be forgotten. Ever. How far they'll get at attempts to impeach him, who knows. NOTHING is certain.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
5. The last thing we need to do is get depressed.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:57 AM
Oct 2018

It's what those bastards are counting on. We need fighters because the M$M is complicit and enables the GOP to stay in power. People like Avenatti are being attacked by the right and the M$M, that tells me that he is viewed as a threat. Don't fall for the right wing narratives that are out there. Don't fall for the fake polling that is sure to come. Stay focused, we can upright the ship. A Democratic Congress can shine a spotlight on those traitorous cockroaches, VOTE the bastards out. November can't come soon enough for me. I recently changed my address and I made sure 3 or 4 times that I am still registered to vote. I am ready for the rigged voting machines, enough votes will overcome them. Keep the faith, with a Democratic House we will get to see Trump's tax returns, we will get to see how many Republicans are crooked.

The darkest hour is right before dawn. A new day is dawning the 1st of January.

ps/ wait until Trumpers find out they aren't getting back the big tax return they envisioned from Trump's tax cuts for the rich.

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
6. Great energizing speech!
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:09 AM
Oct 2018

I agree. Whatever the outcome of this, don't get depressed, don't fall into despair. STAY MAD, and use that anger to help wake people up and get them to VOTE next month. The prize is taking back Congress. Without that, we are powerless. Don't lose sight of that goal. We HAVE to win in November. If we do that, we can fix the rest of this stuff, and we will.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. I think the Democrats should have had a prosecutor interrogate Kavanaugh
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:01 AM
Oct 2018

Like the Republicans did with Ford.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
11. We still seem to be in the Dark Ages on this subject.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:13 AM
Oct 2018

When women wanted the vote, they had to go out and get it. Anything any group has wanted to get and gotten, it was through a struggle. Nothing handed out by the powers that be. Its the grass roots where change happens.

Women want more respect. We need to get angry, stay angry, and go out and vote and get what we want and know we deserve!

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
18. The other side doesn't wonder why women don't tell
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:50 AM
Oct 2018

They deliberately bully and intimidate women to prevent them from telling.

For example, some women had reported Harvey Weinstein over the years. They're not famous because he and his friends ruined their careers.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
21. Republicans framed and are framing a job interview as a criminal trial and we all bit.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:03 AM
Oct 2018

We are still biting the wrong apple.

That is why they used a prosecutor, so we would all think so.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
23. I think we can all agree that a prosecutor doesn't question a victim like they would cross examine a
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:08 AM
Oct 2018

alleged perpetrator of sexual assault. A prosecutor is suppose to bring justice for the victim. Not suppose
To be the criminals advocate.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
26. They got their marching orders from Trump. They were told
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:19 AM
Oct 2018

who not to talk to and who to talk to. All a setup.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
28. He got the Good Ol' Boy treatment; she got the prosecutor.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:23 AM
Oct 2018

What's even more bogus is that the "prosecutor" spouted on only her "testimony" while being denied an opportunity to question the male. LOL, the idiocy of it all.

2naSalit

(86,622 posts)
30. Well, perhaps
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:27 AM
Oct 2018

we women need to just boycott men for a spell, in all ways imaginable, make them the ones who have no power in all conversations and actions. When we take their power from them, we will find equality.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
31. If every woman of reproductive age in the US isn't making quick plans
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:43 AM
Oct 2018

to have their "tubes tied" they're out of their damned minds. And I'm making this statement as woman, mind you. While they're at, maybe they should ask the surgeon (preferably another woman) whether there isn't some sort of medical silicone that can be molded and inserted as a semi-permanent plug (only removable by the woman herself or her doctor).

I realize that statement is (a bit) draconian, but god damn it, I'm sick and tired of misogynistic males deciding what to do with women and girls' bodies, whether it's using them as a convenient punch or a crass joke, or to dictate what our bodies can and cannot do. I'm sick the fuck tired of this bullshit. And I do realize that not all men are like Kavanaugh and his bullhorn orange cheerleader, along with their hypocritical sycophants like Grassley, Graham, Cornyn et al. Oh, and let's not forget those empty-headed women who cheer and egg them on like that horrendous character in the Dirty Harry movie Magnum Force.

What's it gonna take in the fucking United States of fucking Stupid these days to make this shit stop happening? Are women going to have walk around with pliers, pinking shears, a sock loaded with marbles and a loaded gun? Maybe women and girls need to all start wearing tee shirts stating "I shoot first and ask questions later".

trof

(54,256 posts)
39. Because republicans.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:33 PM
Oct 2018

Coulter, Limbaugh, Fox, Beck, Alex Jones, and others saw a way to make mega bucks by stoking the right wing nut paranoia, and repug politicians saw a way to make political hay with it.
At least for a time.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
42. you are wrong that no one cares. Look at all those protestors. THere is a huge MOVEMENT
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 12:26 AM
Oct 2018

of people who care.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
45. The whole thing was rotten to the core.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 02:01 AM
Oct 2018

At times like these I wish I believed in hell, so I could at least hope for the repubs to end up there.

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